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How MPS voted on the 7 ammendments
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brex...-results-live/
Jezza saves the day ;D
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“I will meet the prime minister and others from across parliament to find a sensible Brexit solution that works for the whole country.
“That solution should be based around Labour’s alternative plan of a customs union with a U.K. say, a strong single market relationship and a cast iron guarantee on workers’ rights, consumer standards and environmental protections.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eresa-13925139
I have lost interest with this now.
In the US we call that political talk for it will never happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
The meeting has already happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusIn the US we call that political talk for it will never happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Some foodstuffs from the US that will be filling the shelves along with chlorinated Chicken after we leave the EU :-X :wc::looroll::feedme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7dp7cwnnPg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
So you will be buying this stuff because we are not in the EU?
Many people all over the country will be swallowing this shite just like the crap posted on the side of buses. It's what happens in an unregulated market when you appeal to the lowest common denominator. Not everyone can afford their own Michelin star chef and despite working have to use foodbanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
So you will be buying this stuff because we are not in the EU?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMany people all over the country will be swallowing this shite just like the crap posted on the side of buses. It's what happens in an unregulated market when you appeal to the lowest common denominator. Not everyone can afford their own Michelin star chef and despite working have to use foodbanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
So you will be buying this stuff because we are not in the EU?
Don't have kids you cant afford or get a better job is always sound advice, also don't eat processed food learn how to cook its much cheaper. Our parents generation made healthy filling meals from real ingredients that were not expensive.
Snowflakes blame everyone but themselves, and I find it pathetic.
This is all going to end in a disaster. You could not have done a worse job if you tried. Over 2 years of incompetence negotiating a poor deal.
That does not mean we should have remained or need another referendum.
I agree with learning how to cook and avoiding processed foods like our parents did. Not all that easy when you are trying to be responsible and working whilst bringing up kids, but when you can, it makes perfect sense. I imagine though that a number of people reading your post would find it pathetic mate. The facts are that the entire narrative has been dictated by inept, corrupt politicians and a media hell bent on supporting them. It's got fuck all to do with what you so patronizingly call 'snowflakes'. There is no reason that we could not have maintained food safety standards after leaving the EU but it turns out people are often all mouth and no trousers. So there is no plan. It's not the fault of people who voted to remain, the responsibility lies with the Brexiteers lecturing everyone while doing nothing . Fucking two years of clueless numpties boasting about 'winning' the first meaningful thing they have ever voted for, and now they are blaming people who have nothing to do with the giant cock up and laughing stock they are making of this great country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMany people all over the country will be swallowing this shite just like the crap posted on the side of buses. It's what happens in an unregulated market when you appeal to the lowest common denominator. Not everyone can afford their own Michelin star chef and despite working have to use foodbanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
So you will be buying this stuff because we are not in the EU?
Don't have kids you cant afford or get a better job is always sound advice, also don't eat processed food learn how to cook its much cheaper. Our parents generation made healthy filling meals from real ingredients that were not expensive.
Snowflakes blame everyone but themselves, and I find it pathetic.
Half the country is not going to disappear just because we are leaving the EU so both sides are going to have to learn to deal with the backwards, isolationist, arrogant, less connected and infinitely intellectually, economically. culturally and scientifically poorer country we will end up being. Well done. :appl:
;D
No wonder the Americans from outside the major "liberal" cities are so bloody paranoid. The poor funkers have been constantly inducing a load of additives that all the other major nations on the planet banned? Fuck me, couldn't make it up.
No need to panic Mr Mainwaring ......Not that we are expecting anything to go tits up but we are currently stockpiling...........Body Bags ;D
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com...size=540%2C359
The NHS is stockpiling body bags as preparations for a no-deal Brexit continue to ramp up ahead of March 29, according to a Government official. Health minister Stephen Hammond wrote a letter to a fellow Tory MP revealing that the NHS had taken the measure in a bid to stop shortages, in case the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal. The macabre information was revealed to reassure one of the MP’s constituents that the NHS will continue to run as normal in the event of no-deal.
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/12/nhs-s...al?ito=cbshare
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Just because this has been poorly managed does not mean it was not a good idea.
Of course it does. And it is all your fault. Own it. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
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Originally Posted by Master
No Master we are all wrong lol.
One person on this forum complains about austerity, doesn't that speak volumes.
I am still glad we won the vote and look forward to whatever democracy brings.
In fact I may open a bottle of Champagne to celebrate again tonight.
Speak volumes? about what? about how rich you are or how fucking vacuous and empty you sound? ;D You are right, fucking pages and pages, moaning about the austerity con....not. You are lucky you are able bodied mate, I make no apologies for struggling to make ends meet and pulling myself up by the bootstraps with no fucking help from the likes of you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
No Master we are all wrong lol.
One person on this forum complains about austerity, doesn't that speak volumes.
I am still glad we won the vote and look forward to whatever democracy brings.
In fact I may open a bottle of Champagne to celebrate again tonight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpeak volumes? about what? about how rich you are or how fucking vacuous and empty you sound? ;D You are right, fucking pages and pages, moaning about the austerity con....not. You are lucky you are able bodied mate, I make no apologies for struggling to make ends meet and pulling myself up by the bootstraps with no fucking help from the likes of you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
No Master we are all wrong lol.
One person on this forum complains about austerity, doesn't that speak volumes.
I am still glad we won the vote and look forward to whatever democracy brings.
In fact I may open a bottle of Champagne to celebrate again tonight.
Firstly I'm not rich I just work hard as does my wife, secondly struggling is all part of life it builds character, it isn't somebody else's fault.
Nobody has a divine right to anything in life.
We all work hard mate and it is a fact that people often struggle because of the action of others. You sound like the god squad with your building character rubbish. Austerity is not about building character it is about a political ideology that seeks to demonise and castigate the most vulnerable in society in order to keep the 1% in a position that they do not deserve at all. I don't have a problem with people being wealthy, it is all relative, but when the cards are stacked and democracy is used as an excuse to serve the few, then i believe it is my right to point that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzSpeak volumes? about what? about how rich you are or how fucking vacuous and empty you sound? ;D You are right, fucking pages and pages, moaning about the austerity con....not. You are lucky you are able bodied mate, I make no apologies for struggling to make ends meet and pulling myself up by the bootstraps with no fucking help from the likes of you though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
No Master we are all wrong lol.
One person on this forum complains about austerity, doesn't that speak volumes.
I am still glad we won the vote and look forward to whatever democracy brings.
In fact I may open a bottle of Champagne to celebrate again tonight.
Firstly I'm not rich I just work hard as does my wife, secondly struggling is all part of life it builds character, it isn't somebody else's fault.
Nobody has a divine right to anything in life.
Labour essentially agreeing to a second referendum is a kick in the teeth to democracy. There are shades to Brexit as there are shades to Remainers. For instance I am sure not all Remainers want a European army.
However Labour want to ask the public on the Brexit deal which is just another way of having a second referendum. The incompetence of the government to make a deal over 2 years, with the arrogance of the Remainers who will not accept the decision and with the Europeans who have played us like idiots have won the day.
I would love it if they lose the vote again but then they will try and have another excuse for a third one.
Labour is finished as a party now. Corbyn is right on the mark economically but he is daft as a brush on the EU and immigration. The UK has changed for the worse in so many ways which took me aback somewhat when visiting. Those things were all the fault of Labour.
Labour promoted things like this below and now it is becoming criminal to even speak out about it again thanks to Labour. Labour has lost its traditional vote base who would rather spit on Owen Jones. Shame really but Corbyn has made his choice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0XTvuRycY
Make your mind up. One minute the BBC and all journalists that are not knuckle dragging idiots like Tommeh are not to be trusted, and then you are posting portions of documentaries made by them to pretend that acting like idiotic muslim extremists and spitting on people you don't have the ability to debate with is OK. Idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Anyway back to Brexit
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4682&stc=1
Chicken anyone?
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Brexit: Contract for shipping NHS supplies given to firm behind KFC chicken shortage
Ministers have handed a contract for shipping critical NHS supplies in the event of a no deal Brexit to the firm behind the KFC chicken shortage fiasco.
The Mirror has learned that a Government logistics hub in Belgium will rely on delivery firm DHL to transport some key goods across the Channel.
The fast food chain was forced to temporarily close hundreds of outlets last year following the botched handover of its logistics contract to DHL.
MPs criticised the decision to rely on the firm to provide potentially life-saving drugs and equipment if the UK leaves without a deal.
Whitehall insiders said the hub was just one way that medical products would be brought into the country in a no deal scenario.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...paign=sharebar
I don't see many Robinson supporters acting like that nor indeed spitting on anyone either. You may take a rhetorical flourish in the way a Facebook representative might, but it is an actual example of idiocy. I think you have computational issues. The BBC has certainly reported on cultural issues. It is not completely black or white, my binary numpty. Even Lionel Ritchie has written a good song. It is also responsible for distorting and manipulating too. You only need to hear them call Robinson far right to know that. Owen Jones does not have the ability to debate either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzMake your mind up. One minute the BBC and all journalists that are not knuckle dragging idiots like Tommeh are not to be trusted, and then you are posting portions of documentaries made by them to pretend that acting like idiotic muslim extremists and spitting on people you don't have the ability to debate with is OK. Idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITdjAb3VcE
Miles
Miles
Miles
Can you not see the irony in your argument? Firstly this has fuck all to do with Brexit but here you are claiming that everyone but you see things as purely binary arguments, after wearing those exact same blinkers for years in post after tedious, predictable, repetitive post.
Then you are using Murdochs Sky News the behemoth of MSM to attack someone for having the integrity to stand up to their bullshit narrative. You do this all the time. Toe the establishment line and pretend that anyone who would stand up and fight for their beliefs is just a stooge as though you, hilariously the most soyboy of drama queen's, have the monopoly on reason and levity.
You would stamp your feet and demand a call to prayer without Suede or Morrisey singing it is an affront to your integrity as the palest and most wan of indie wannabe, mascara wearing homo acting straight boys. And yet some homophobic Muslim bigot deliberately targeting and killing actual gay people in a gay club is something a gay ACTUAL journalist should shut the fuck up over and let Murdochs monkeys pretend it is not homophobic at all.
This is the same argument that pisses me off on holocaust memorial day, virtual signalling faux empathy where everyone mistakes outrage with wanting to claim a share in victimhood, potential or otherwise.
It is the same place Farrage, Rees-Mogg, Etc operate from. They don't give a fuck about England or Britain. Brexit for them is the ticket to amassing huge wealth and though you know it, you refuse to call them out on it. Because I expect you too are the type of investor who would unflinchingly gamble and not bat an eyelid whilst profiteering from the destruction of the country in which you were born.
You typed all that in response to Owen Jones having a paddy? Fair enough. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I am pro Brexit for the simple reason that a country can and should control its own laws and borders. It really is that simple. Either you believe in democracy or you do not. Bring on proportional representation too. Whether anyone gets richer or poorer is neither here nor there and completely unproven. As Europe's second biggest economy I do not think you need to go down the drama queen route of suggesting anyone is glorifying in the destruction of a country. Nice projection though and completely hysterical. You would have to look to the Soros types rather than me to see anyone dabbling in national destruction. He probably funds some of the groups you are into too. The irony!
The EU is full of poor countries with serious debt issues and high unemployment. They have no ability to regulate their own currency. It is best avoided and along with the unchecked borders something one should want to keep a little distance from. It is gradually falling apart and only force will hold it together and it is good for the people of Europe as they can get their own currencies back and actually control their own destinies again. Surely you want good things for people rather than to see fine cultures continually degraded.
On Channel 4 tonight for those who watch the telly box
Profits in Jacob Rees-Mogg's investment firm soaring while UK braces for Brexit
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incomin...5/0_Brexit.jpg Somerset Capital Management LLP is enjoying surging fortunes in sharp contrast to businesses bracing for Brexit. Jacob Rees-Mogg - who co-owns the firm - insisted there was no link between the rising profits and Brexit
Profits in Jacob Rees-Mogg’s investment empire are soaring and more than doubled in the last four years, a TV investigation will show tomorrow.
A Channel 4 Dispatches programme will highlight the surging fortunes of Somerset Capital Management LLP, a firm co-founded and co-owned by the Tory hard Brexiteer.
SCM’s publicly-available accounts show its operating profit rose from £14.7m in the year to March 2015, to £18.3m in 2016, £27.8m in 2017 and £34.1m in 2018.
Meanwhile the profits available for distribution among members have risen from £11.5m in 2015 to £14.4m in 2016, £21.9m in 2017 and £25.3m in 2018.
The apparent windfall for Mr Rees-Mogg, who holds a share of at least 15% in the firm, comes in sharp contrast to other businesses and workers who are bracing for the impact of Brexit.
Dispatches claimed one expert said the slumping pound since the referendum had helped SCM’s profits, because the firm invests in emerging markets.
But Mr Rees-Mogg told the programme it was “cloud cuckoo land” to draw any link between the rising profits and Brexit.
And he refused to confirm or deny a Channel 4 estimate that he has earned £7million personally from the firm since June 2016.
He told the programme: "The amount that I received is not for public disclosure.
"I’m entitled to the same privacy in my affairs as anyone else in parliament is."
Mr Rees-Mogg publicly declared £185,777 in employment income from SCM, where he works 30 hours a month, in the 12 months to January 2019.
However, MPs are not required to disclose other types of income such as dividend payments.
Reached for further comment by the Mirror today, Mr Rees-Mogg said: "I am proud of being a founder partner in a successful business that creates jobs and tax revenues.
"The link between Brexit and Emerging Markets is spurious and only believed by Loch Ness monster spotters."
Separately, Dispatches will also examine how hedge funds have built up huge bets against British businesses which will pay off if the economy hits the rocks.
And the programme is due to examine the huge sums charged by MPs on the speaking circuit, including Boris Johnson who earned £94,508 for a speech in November after quitting the government over Brexit.
Dispatches: The Brexit Millionaires airs at 8pm on Monday 11 March on Channel 4.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...t-14114954.amp
@Gandalf.
Apologies for at mentioning you but the New Zealand thread was veering miles off subject.
So your assertion that 46% of Brits want a no deal exit turns out to be hokum.He is a graph even Kirk would be proud of.
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...u-support-2-2/
Still pretty high IF that is correct. Looks like many still want out and good for them. Might have been 46% of Brexiteers, maybe not, got it from Sargon who pays more attention than I.
15% at its lowest and 30% at its highest in the last few months but absolutely hammered by the majority wanting to remain. That is the trouble with facts. They can be so inconvenient ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Sargon is just some dopey bloke from Swindon who refuses to research things properly or criticise anything remotely right wing. He probably polled his followers or threw a dice. If that is the level people resort to nowadays in order to inform themselves no wonder Bannon etc finds it so easy to influence elections/referendums :lickish:
An even bigger number for you. How about a trillion? ;D
UK to lose £1tn of financial assets to Europe due to Brexit
Financial services companies have committed to move about £1tn of assets out of the UK into Europe as the industry triggers its worst-case contingency plans with no Brexit deal in sight, according to consultancy EY. The estimate by EY — which mainly covers client assets and cash moved out of the UK by banks and fund managers as well as the transfer of balance sheets as operations are relocated — has increased by £200bn since the last survey in January. Banks and investors are now being forced to finalise plans only days from the Brexit deadline, with London’s future trading relationship with the EU still in question after Theresa May failed for a second time to secure parliamentary approval for her deal last week. She now faces having to ask Brussels for an extension to Brexit, causing added uncertainty for businesses in the UK. The number of jobs likely to move to the continent has remained steady at about 7,000, according to the EY study, which tracks the public declarations of 222 UK-based financial services firms on their intentions to restructure. About 2,000 new Europe-based roles have already been created since the June 2016 referendum, the consultancy said. “The relocation of 7,000 high-paid finance jobs will inevitably hit the UK tax base,” said Omar Ali, EY’s head of financial services. “Even using a conservative estimate . . . the direct loss to the Exchequer from employment taxes would be around £600m. In reality, the average salary and therefore tax loss is likely to be much higher.” At this stage, only the biggest institutions have made concrete commitments. Three-quarters of the 24 global banks tracked have announced significant relocations of operations to Europe, with Frankfurt the most popular destination with 12 lenders bulking up in the German financial capital. Paris and Dublin are the next most popular with eight and six banks, respectively, EY said. However, the majority of big banks’ operations remain in London at this point. On Tuesday, US giant Citigroup said its new broker-dealer in Frankfurt was now fully operational and trading for EU clients instead of London, while Bank of America warned there was no going back on the $400m it had already spent leasing offices and moving people to Paris and Dublin. Similarly, Barclays was given approval by a UK court to move €190bn of assets to its Irish subsidiary because of what a judge called “continuing uncertainty over . . . a ‘no-deal’ Brexit”. When the entire range of financial firms is considered, the picture is less clear. As of the end of February, only 39 per cent of the 222 surveyed companies had stated their intentions to relocate some operations to Europe, the new survey showed. The £1tn figure was reached using the statements of the 23 companies, mainly banks, that have already formally announced a shift of assets out of the UK, which means that the “conservative” figure is likely to continue increasing, according to EY. “As the 29th of March draws nearer, no financial services businesses can know for sure how a disorderly Brexit will impact them, their clients, people and supply chains or the UK economy,” Mr Ali said. “Continued uncertainty will undoubtedly lead to more assets and people being transferred from the UK.” On Tuesday Andrea Enria, chair of the ECB’s bank supervisory agency, told the FT that he expected about €1.2tn of assets to be moved to fall under its remit.
STEPHEN MORRIS
https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-...f-d49067e0f50d
There was an article in the economist about how much England could lose if this isn’t done right. I don’t have the article in front of me but one of the writers wrote some dire financial prospects, England basically losing the value of England. I can’t talk with authority about it as it’s hard enough to figure out what’s going on in my own country but in mine eyes if the people voted for it, it should happen. You are screwing up our stock market on occasion with this indecision so I hope you figure it up. At least you can do it in the ballot box and not have to make war with England like we did. England was fine for a long time without being in the EU, I think you will be fine again without it.
The government have made a complete and utter balls up of the whole process.
A no deal brexit will not be good, WTO rules are not ideal and a minimum baseline.
May has agreed a bad deal which I do not want. So this is all a mess but I do not want another referendum.
Project fear, Beanz. You cannot trust the media. They basically make it up as they go along. The sun will still rise, the seasons will still turn, and you can make your own rules. I do not understand the slave mentality. The UK is a wealthy country and the EU needs you more than you need them. Man up and walk away.
You exclusively quote the most biased media available on earth. Literally. look at how little disagreement there is in a JP videos comments. Look how you can ignore multiple polls taken over the last 6 months and pretend some bloke from Swindon is a viable alternative viewpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I don't understand how you can hate solidarity, Compassion, Equality etc and then claim to be a socialist. You are a conservative in every meaningful sense of the word. Brexit is about tax evasion and the tory austerity masterplan. And here you are giving it the thumbs up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvw2zwI3s78
I have not got the time, but will say simply that it is about democracy and sovereignty if done as I would have it done. The UK is a wealthy country. Look at the state of Greece. The EU is hardly keeping countries wealthy. The UK will be fine.
Socialists in the UK were traditionally about being against the EU and open borders. You guys changed, not me. Many Brexit snd UkIP supporters are ex Labour.
I have no idea why you guys are so against democracy. I do not see Iceland sinking or Korea falling off a cliff.
http://newsthump.com/2019/03/20/a-se...ts-vote-leave/Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf