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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
"The British are very weird like that they don't seem to understand stuff in the same way that we Americans do x"
Bwahahaha! Aww, nice little kiss on the end too. I take it that you and Walrus are both bum chums again now then Brockyboy ;D
Beanz you Dominican Dildo, that x was typed as your thumb hit the submit reply and since when we're me and #BitcoinBoy NOT chums
Brock you will not come betwixt beanz and I that is a line you will cross but onceQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Trump got in because he was famous and people didn't like Clitnon. Simple as that. If he was called Joe Bloggs and nobody had heard of him a) he wouldn't even be able to run and b) even if he could nobody would vote for him as he isn't a celebrity. Outsider! :rolleyes:;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
What utter bollix to the n-th degree FFS, what's the point of Joe bloggs you nutcase, of course Trump's personality and saying it like it IS got him elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfTrump got in because he was famous and people didn't like Clitnon. Simple as that. If he was called Joe Bloggs and nobody had heard of him a) he wouldn't even be able to run and b) even if he could nobody would vote for him as he isn't a celebrity. Outsider! :rolleyes:;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Let me sum it up to you you whack-job British expat over in the Far East:
Deport all illegals
Build That Wall
Cancel the trans-pacific partnership TPP
Cancel NAFTA
Open the oil gas and Shale production again in the US
Bring production back to the United States which was all sent overseas by The Establishment over the past 30 years
Completely destroy political correctness which is the baby of the establishment coward globalist mind control idiots
Honor the border patrol once again on of them in honor of the police force once again after Obama told everybody that it was okay to shoot police officers
Defeat Isis which was a baby of Obama and Clinton and Bush
@Gandalf must I go on or is this list a good start for you to digest
I've forgotten more than you know about your social security system. You've discussed SS with an accountant, seriously, who the fuck talks to accountants about SS, and tax lawyers, your income and investments are so complicated you need somebody who costs more a year than the average person earns? If you really have and they've told you SS is going down the tubes then they're as ignorant as you are. What you really need to do is talk to an insuranc eactuary, or some fucking know it all like me. You explain to me why SS is going to collapse and I'll school you about the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDude are you nutz. You know nothing of SSI and it's spenditures. You surprised me with that one usually you at least come across like you know your shit even though you don't. you usually flash some shit showing how little you know. I've payed all kinds of taxes here Kirk, I've talked to accounts, tax lawyers and the IRS agents. I can tell you straight out you don't know shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingSS is perfectly manageable and if you're convinced it won't be there when you retire you've been successfully conned by an ongoing multibillion dollar operation by the right's big donors to make you believe it's unsustainable. You're right about the corporate tax cut not doing much. It's just another giant upward redistribution of wealth, more class warfare from the GOP. And with you living in a state with state taxes you're probably going to get a tax increase to pay for the corporate cut. The bill is definitely not the best you could get, it's outright robbery. It's the GOP who create the deficits and the debt and the Democrats who have to clear the mess up. Nine out of the last ten recessions have come under a Republican in the White House. Res ipsa loquitur. Every prez spends more. Growing economy, revenues, population, inflation etc. The fact they spend more is irrelevant. It's how much they spend in relation to GDP that matters. There's a graph. You can look it up. This tax bill will not simplify things and leaving the government facing a deficit crisis will not make anything better.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSSI spent one trillion dollars for the first time last year. It is unmanageable. I'm not really counting on SSI payments if I make it that long. SSI and welfare have been the political third rail for so long the only way to save it is a big percentage drop in payments and raising the age again. You can take numbers out of this bill to support either cause for or against. I'm not against cutting the corporate tax but it needs to translate to the people which it didn't do while these companies reaped in record profits the last almost 9 years, I'm not convinced it will. I beleive there is a sunset clause on the individual cut if it doesn't translate to increased ecomic blah blah but no sunset on the corporations. Should be the other way around. Kirk, every line on the tax code has a special interest group supporting it. Do you think tax lawyers don't fight simplification. If we can get money out of government it would function better. This bill may be the best we can get. If trump only adds a few trillion to the deficit I'll consider that a cut at this point. It's getting to the point every president spends more than all the other presidents in history. It's frickin crazy. I'll see if I can dig up a graphQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Do you know what I do for seven hours every day. I read. Mainly financial data*, but also other stuff like economic data and so on. I've been studying this stuff for decades. I can tell you all about the government expenditures and pesnsion systems and welfare programmes in every major economy. I have literally forgotten more than you know about every aspect of the American economy and the American government. And I read five times faster than you do too. That's like you reading thirty five hours a day five days a week. That's 175 hours and there are only 168 in a week.
*Ever seen any financial data? A page is eighty percent numbers, twenty percent legalese/businessese and throw a small handful of Greek letters at the page. And I read over a thousand pages of that stuff every day. The exciting world of high finance.
This bill is a gigantic handout to the wealthy. It'll save Trump a billion dollars in inheritance taxes alone. It reads like it's been written by his accountants. It's difficult and risky to sign a bill giving yourself huge quantities of extra money?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDude don't but kirks bullshit about the taxes. This is the first time taxes have been overhauled since Reagan. We still don't have the completed bill, it now goes back to adding and subtracting things both houses approve. This is just another day in the life. All the sudden the dems are fiscal hawks after their boy Obama blew through 10 trillion in eight years. It's a fucking facade. All the sudden the roof is gonna fall in. I probably save a little money on this, Brock will, certain parts of it aren't cool but guess what, ITS FUCKING TAXES. Who is completely gonna be happy with any tax. I give trump credit cause he is trying to do something that is very difficult and risky in American politics. It's easier to send stimulus checks out like bush did than fight the behemoth of special interest tax groups. The government is also gonna tax Bitcoin profits. I'll tell you this miles, some people will be happy, some people will be sad with this new tax bill. Same with every fucking other bill. The sun will come up the day after it passes and we will still be paying some taxes. It is amazing how the deep state hates trump and the dems won't give him a chance. Our republican senate sucks but they did try to work with obama on bills. The dems are shameful especially when the act like they give a shit about the national debtQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
That comes from Trump's own government department staffed with people he appointed. Most of the middle class will get a tax cut of a few hundred dollars for a few years but the cuts gradually sunset and in eigh t to ten years almost everybody gets a tax increase over the current situation. That's what the graph says if you actually read it. Again, who is likely to know more about the US tax code?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSee I've read something completely different and it was from a liberal rag that stated it was trying to look at it objectively. They found the majority of the middle class will receive tax relief. Now let me ask you, the senators complaining this may increase the debt, where we're the the 8 years Obama spent 10 trillion. Kirk you prob know little about us tax code but the majority of the middle class don't itemize, it is those that don't, which is most, will benefit. I don't know what they will do with the deductions that is still being worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Dude u are so full of shit, how are your taxes in the UK let's talk about that. As far as who knows more about the tax code I have three businesses, equities, commodities so I do thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThat comes from Trump's own government department staffed with people he appointed. Most of the middle class will get a tax cut of a few hundred dollars for a few years but the cuts gradually sunset and in eigh t to ten years almost everybody gets a tax increase over the current situation. That's what the graph says if you actually read it. Again, who is likely to know more about the US tax code?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSee I've read something completely different and it was from a liberal rag that stated it was trying to look at it objectively. They found the majority of the middle class will receive tax relief. Now let me ask you, the senators complaining this may increase the debt, where we're the the 8 years Obama spent 10 trillion. Kirk you prob know little about us tax code but the majority of the middle class don't itemize, it is those that don't, which is most, will benefit. I don't know what they will do with the deductions that is still being worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Us and uk bith suck
Patting a felon on the back and flat out endorsing an accused..multiple times..child molester. I live in the South and dammit Alabama is better than this. I cannot even pretend to have belief or faith in this man. We're not draining a swamp we're just pouring in more snakes.
Dude you're showing your patriotism but what about the principal at this country was founded on innocent until proven guilty? How quickly has that been abandoned as these people just get fired like dominoesQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
It's funny lower taxes. Faster growth, less red tape and Nancy peolosi says its the end of the world. They do not want the country doing better, they want America ruined, they are scared shitless the economy will look good in 2020. Unemployment down and growth upis Armageddon to democrats, sad
A divisive president who was in bed with the Russians and the gun lobby that gives jobs to his family is all good then.
Gives jobs to his family, do you know what Harry Reid has done with his family. Wtf why are all these things that are done everyday in politics bad when trump does it. Remember bill gave Hillary a job doing the healthcare thingyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
@Master see the press just fucks with ur head
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...founders-time/
So it was ok for James Madison or JFK but for trump it's evil right
Trump was an outsider to the political system. When the race started, everyone figured it would be Jeb Bush vs Hillary. Those were the two "establishment" candidates who had the most power and money behind their campaigns. The Republicans didn't want guys like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and especially not Donald Trump.
The Democrats chose to push an unlikable candidate with a ton of baggage and it blew up in their faces. Donald Trump is not the Lord and Saviour that his advocates think he is, but he's not the second coming of Hitler like liberals think.
Personally I was happy to see him win over Hillary, because it's been entertaining as hell watching it from up here in Canada.
I really enjoyed me trips to Canada, Montreal is a nice city, Toronto is also nice but a lot of people tried to sell me drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dannl99
Vancouver is beautifulQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusI really enjoyed me trips to Canada, Montreal is a nice city, Toronto is also nice but a lot of people tried to sell me drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dannl99
Yes... but too expensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterVancouver is beautifulQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusI really enjoyed me trips to Canada, Montreal is a nice city, Toronto is also nice but a lot of people tried to sell me drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dannl99
I'm so full of shit that you want to completely change the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDude u are so full of shit, how are your taxes in the UK let's talk about that. As far as who knows more about the tax code I have three businesses, equities, commodities so I do thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThat comes from Trump's own government department staffed with people he appointed. Most of the middle class will get a tax cut of a few hundred dollars for a few years but the cuts gradually sunset and in eigh t to ten years almost everybody gets a tax increase over the current situation. That's what the graph says if you actually read it. Again, who is likely to know more about the US tax code?Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusSee I've read something completely different and it was from a liberal rag that stated it was trying to look at it objectively. They found the majority of the middle class will receive tax relief. Now let me ask you, the senators complaining this may increase the debt, where we're the the 8 years Obama spent 10 trillion. Kirk you prob know little about us tax code but the majority of the middle class don't itemize, it is those that don't, which is most, will benefit. I don't know what they will do with the deductions that is still being worked outQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I don't really pay a lot of taxes in any country where I earn taxable income. Over the last ten years my tax rate averages out in the low single digits.
I've been to Whistler. I've had three or four skiing holidays and I still haven't ever skied yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dannl99Yes... but too expensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterVancouver is beautifulQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusI really enjoyed me trips to Canada, Montreal is a nice city, Toronto is also nice but a lot of people tried to sell me drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dannl99
Job creation has slowed down under Trump. It was faster under Obama. There's no massive increase in economic growth either. It's still well below what it should be at this point of the business cycle. It'll get a small boosts through the small percentage of the tax cuts that finds its way into low/middle income hands but it's the dumbest thing ever to have a tax cut in the middle of an economic expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Republicans have controlled all three branches of government three times in the last hundred years. The first time was in the 1920s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. The second time was in the 2000s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. Now they're going for the hat trick:
Major players in the financial industry hope for sweeping change at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) now that a staunch conservative is in charge.
Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney was cleared to begin reshaping the CFPB when a federal court last week blocked an attempt to depose him.
While Democrats are fretting about the CFPB’s future, banks and others in the financial services sector are eager for a new start at an agency they’ve long considered unaccountable and harmful.
“We want Mick Mulvaney to be smart, reasonable and balanced,” said Richard Hunt, president of the Consumer Bankers Association. “He knows the CFPB has to work not only for the consumers, but for the markets together.”Hunt called for a top-to-bottom review of CFPB personnel in the hopes of bringing in more employees who “understand the relationship between banks and consumers.”
Ironically, the very thing critics find most objectionable about the CFPB — the power instilled in a single director — now gives Mulvaney the ability to make wholesale changes to the CFPB’s priorities.
“The structure of the CFPB is just fundamentally flawed. Authority that I have now as the acting director really should frighten people,” Mulvaney said on Thursday.
“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”
Under its last director, Richard Cordray, the CFPB was aggressive in taking on the financial sector. The agency fined banks, financial services companies and lenders millions of dollars for alleged fraud while issuing rules that reshaped much of the industry. Democrats often tout the $12 million in restitution the CFPB won for more than 30 million defrauded consumers.
Republicans, who opposed the creation of the CFPB from the start, argue Cordray abused the extensive power and autonomy Democrats gave the bureau to insulate its work from interference.
http://thehill.com/regulation/financ...es-on-mulvaney
It's like putting the Baader-Meinhoff gang in charge of Lufthansa.
Crock of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingJob creation has slowed down under Trump. It was faster under Obama. There's no massive increase in economic growth either. It's still well below what it should be at this point of the business cycle. It'll get a small boosts through the small percentage of the tax cuts that finds its way into low/middle income hands but it's the dumbest thing ever to have a tax cut in the middle of an economic expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Republicans have controlled all three branches of government three times in the last hundred years. The first time was in the 1920s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. The second time was in the 2000s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. Now they're going for the hat trick:
Major players in the financial industry hope for sweeping change at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) now that a staunch conservative is in charge.
Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney was cleared to begin reshaping the CFPB when a federal court last week blocked an attempt to depose him.
While Democrats are fretting about the CFPB’s future, banks and others in the financial services sector are eager for a new start at an agency they’ve long considered unaccountable and harmful.
“We want Mick Mulvaney to be smart, reasonable and balanced,” said Richard Hunt, president of the Consumer Bankers Association. “He knows the CFPB has to work not only for the consumers, but for the markets together.”Hunt called for a top-to-bottom review of CFPB personnel in the hopes of bringing in more employees who “understand the relationship between banks and consumers.”
Ironically, the very thing critics find most objectionable about the CFPB — the power instilled in a single director — now gives Mulvaney the ability to make wholesale changes to the CFPB’s priorities.
“The structure of the CFPB is just fundamentally flawed. Authority that I have now as the acting director really should frighten people,” Mulvaney said on Thursday.
“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”
Under its last director, Richard Cordray, the CFPB was aggressive in taking on the financial sector. The agency fined banks, financial services companies and lenders millions of dollars for alleged fraud while issuing rules that reshaped much of the industry. Democrats often tout the $12 million in restitution the CFPB won for more than 30 million defrauded consumers.
Republicans, who opposed the creation of the CFPB from the start, argue Cordray abused the extensive power and autonomy Democrats gave the bureau to insulate its work from interference.
http://thehill.com/regulation/financ...es-on-mulvaney
It's like putting the Baader-Meinhoff gang in charge of Lufthansa.
Worse than that
I tried to have a conversation with @Kirkland Laing but he hides behind copy and paste. It's a shame as he seems like a different guy but I'm not sure he is capable of critical thought, he needs to rely on others for his thought process. Plus he is generally full of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Bud we're talking about teens not some crappy actor of geriatric senator putting the moves on an intern or coffee gopher. I'm embarrassed for any party endorsing a guy with the multiple accounts and patterns of Moore. He's a sick fook. Trump had a softball over the plate to actually take a unified high ground but instead knee capped the party for the sake on a single vote. It's a shit show and rank short sighted head in the sand tribalism does nothing for the Country.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustDude you're showing your patriotism but what about the principal at this country was founded on innocent until proven guilty? How quickly has that been abandoned as these people just get fired like dominoesQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Moore should probably just retired unless these are false accusations then I would be pissed and continueQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBud we're talking about teens not some crappy actor of geriatric senator putting the moves on an intern or coffee gopher. I'm embarrassed for any party endorsing a guy with the multiple accounts and patterns of Moore. He's a sick fook. Trump had a softball over the plate to actually take a unified high ground but instead knee capped the party for the sake on a single vote. It's a shit show and rank short sighted head in the sand tribalism does nothing for the Country.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustDude you're showing your patriotism but what about the principal at this country was founded on innocent until proven guilty? How quickly has that been abandoned as these people just get fired like dominoesQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
If all you have is allegations without proof and the accused is strongly denying the charges, what can you do? Everyone has the right to due process. I know we are in a stage where pigs are getting called out for their sexual crimes, and I think that's a great thing, but we have to remember people are innocent until proven guilty or admit guilt.
I just think it's a shame serious accusations like this are being used as political weapons. The timing of the accusations are very suspect, whether they are true or not.
Spicoli I understand what you are saying. But perhaps more doesn't agree that he did that and perhaps they are bogus claims. Like I said I don't go along with any kind of action until proven guilty in a court of law
You gonna let Casey Anthony babysit for you then? HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
What an erudite reply. I get better responses from Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusCrock of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingJob creation has slowed down under Trump. It was faster under Obama. There's no massive increase in economic growth either. It's still well below what it should be at this point of the business cycle. It'll get a small boosts through the small percentage of the tax cuts that finds its way into low/middle income hands but it's the dumbest thing ever to have a tax cut in the middle of an economic expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Republicans have controlled all three branches of government three times in the last hundred years. The first time was in the 1920s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. The second time was in the 2000s when their complete abdication of regulation and oversight of the financial industry led to a catastrophic economic meltdown. Now they're going for the hat trick:
Major players in the financial industry hope for sweeping change at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) now that a staunch conservative is in charge.
Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney was cleared to begin reshaping the CFPB when a federal court last week blocked an attempt to depose him.
While Democrats are fretting about the CFPB’s future, banks and others in the financial services sector are eager for a new start at an agency they’ve long considered unaccountable and harmful.
“We want Mick Mulvaney to be smart, reasonable and balanced,” said Richard Hunt, president of the Consumer Bankers Association. “He knows the CFPB has to work not only for the consumers, but for the markets together.”Hunt called for a top-to-bottom review of CFPB personnel in the hopes of bringing in more employees who “understand the relationship between banks and consumers.”
Ironically, the very thing critics find most objectionable about the CFPB — the power instilled in a single director — now gives Mulvaney the ability to make wholesale changes to the CFPB’s priorities.
“The structure of the CFPB is just fundamentally flawed. Authority that I have now as the acting director really should frighten people,” Mulvaney said on Thursday.
“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”
Under its last director, Richard Cordray, the CFPB was aggressive in taking on the financial sector. The agency fined banks, financial services companies and lenders millions of dollars for alleged fraud while issuing rules that reshaped much of the industry. Democrats often tout the $12 million in restitution the CFPB won for more than 30 million defrauded consumers.
Republicans, who opposed the creation of the CFPB from the start, argue Cordray abused the extensive power and autonomy Democrats gave the bureau to insulate its work from interference.
http://thehill.com/regulation/financ...es-on-mulvaney
It's like putting the Baader-Meinhoff gang in charge of Lufthansa.
A retired Alabama police officer said police were told to keep Roy Moore from hanging around high school cheerleaders.
Faye Gary, a Former Gadsden police officer, told MSNBC on Tuesday that the "rumor mill was that he [Moore] liked young girls."
“We were advised that he was being suspended from the mall because he would hang around the young girls that worked in the stores and, you know, really got into a place of where they say he was harassing,” Gary told MSNBC.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fo...rticle/2641525
The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.”
[...]
Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall
So far Donald Trump has declared Roy Moore, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly and himself innocent of the dozens of allegations against them.
The GOP tax bill:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-giveaway.html
Roy Moore spokeswoman: Don't forget there are a lot of girls he didn't molest!
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/938040081880879105
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...rson-says.html
Republicans need Roy Moore to pass their tax bill
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...moore-tax-bill
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