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'YEARNING' Anthony Joshua reveals he won’t watch Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury… even though he ‘needs’ WBC champion to win
Eddie Hearn reveals he will be straight on the phone to next week's winner of the LA clash next week to set-up huge Wembley showdown
ANTHONY JOSHUA will not watch Deontay Wilder’s fight with Tyson Fury – because he will be sleeping.
The British heavyweight superstar admits he is desperate for the American to beat his British rival in order to set-up a huge unification showdown.
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But even the prospect of that will not keep AJ awake next Saturday night.
The 29-year-old IBF, WBA and WBO world champ said: “Unfortunately the fight's on too early for me, so I'll be sleeping, but I enjoy watching the highlights.
“I need Wilder to win, and that way it gives me more of an opportunity to fight him, because as a champion, if he retains his belt.
"I think that's the fight people have been yearning for.”
A victory for Wilder could set up a potential blockbuster between the WBC title holder and Joshua with all the gold on the line.
However, if Fury can cause a shock then Wilder will no doubt invoke his rematch clause – causing AJ to look elsewhere for his next opponent.
The Watford-born superstar is looking for someone to face at Wembley on April 13, and his promoter is ready to pick up negotiations within hours of next week’s conclusion to the fight in LA.
Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports: “If Fury wins and the rematch clause kicks in, we know we've got to move on ourselves, but my instruction is ‘Make that fight.’
“They (Wilder’s camp) haven't really wanted to speak to me before it.
“Now when the fight's over, if Wilder wins, we'll be on him on Sunday, saying any chance now?
Can we meet now? If they say no again, I don't know what else we can do.
“If they are true to their word, on December 2, if they beat Tyson Fury, we will immediately start negotiations and we'll see where we get to.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/78172...-tyson-fury-2/
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury: Dillian Whyte hopes ‘weirdo’ Gypsy King ‘smashes Bronze Bomber’s face in’
The Brixton heavyweight contender slams WBC world champion and insists he is a 'coward'
DILLIAN WHYTE wants Tyson Fury to “smash” Deontay Wilder’s face in.
The Body Snatcher is hoping his fellow Brit can reclaim a portion of the heavyweight crown at the Staples Center in LA next week.
Whyte failed to entice Wilder into defending his WBC belt, and he has held it against him ever since.
And despite having a rocky relationship with the Gypsy King, he hopes to see his domestic rival emerge victorious Stateside.
Speakin to IFLTV, 30-year-old Whyte said: “I hope Tyson Fury smashes Deontay Wilder’s face in because Deontay Wilder’s a coward.
“Tyson Fury – me and him have had our ups and downs, but he’s not a coward at least.
“I give credit where it’s due, he’s not a coward. He’s stepped up after fighting two pumpkins and has fought Deontay Wilder.
“Deontay Wilder fought one mandatory in three years, Deontay Wilder’s a punk.
“Hopefully Fury beats him. Fury’s British so I’m gonna back him.”
While his heart might be pulling for Fury, Whyte’s head is telling him different.
The Brixton-born fighter added: “It’s one of those fights where smart money says Wilder, and heart and courage says Tyson Fury because he’s a bit of a weirdo.
“You might him write him off and he comes and boxes out of his skin.
“So you never know. Weirdos do weird things.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/78176...dillian-whyte/
Fury is getting good press this week, as he should, this fight is a no brainer, Wilder gets shoved around and mauled, fails to land a pathetic air shot, and may well get nailed by a Fury powder punch, or two.
I don't have any problem with the match itself and want to see it. The problems start with much of whats left surrounding the card though. First and foremost being a $74.99 ppv tag on a one name fight evening which guarantees that many fans won't go out of their way. The good news is Chavez jr was deemed not ready for a return v Angulo.
Tyson Fury reveals what he will do with world title belt if he beats Deontay Wilder
Tyson Fury has the chance to win the one world title that has eluded him when he faces Deontay Wilder on Saturday.
The American's WBC heavyweight belt will be on the line when the pair clash at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
But even if Fury is successful in dethroning his rival - he plans to stick his new prize in the cupboard.
He said: "It will finish off the collection but that belt will get chucked in the cupboard with the rest of them, the other 15 I've already got.
"It's a boxing fight for me; I've had 27 of them before, this will be number 28 and win, lose or draw, it is what it is.
"Basically it's just throwing punches aimed in the direction of your opponent and that's it, then trying to get out the way and then throwing some more. It's not rocket science.
"Deontay Wilder and me, there's nothing either of us can do that we haven't seen before. It's only punches being thrown; I can't kick him in the nuts or elbow him in the face, it's just got to be punches.
"I can't make any more of it than it is; it's a good fight between two heavyweights who are willing to fight each other in the prime of their lives.
"He's 33, I'm 30, he's unbeaten, I'm unbeaten, he's WBC champion, I'm the lineal champion. I don't think you can get a much bigger fight than this; it's a Brit against an American and everything is on the line."
Fury has fought just twice since he upset Wladimir Klitschko three years ago to become the unified champion.
Victories over mediocre opposition in Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianetta hardly seem ideal preparation for Wilder.
But Fury himself has no doubts.
"All this about who have I fought resembling Wilder, who did I fight resembling Klitschko? [Dereck] Chisora or [Christian] Hammer, were any of them close to him? Definitely not, so why do you need to fight similar people to get ready?"
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Odds that Tyson Fury gets popped for PEDs again?
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Even money ?
McDermott tips old foe Fury to out-point Wilder
The only fighter considered to have beaten Tyson Fury as a professional believes his one-time rival is ready to out-point Deontay Wilder.
John McDermott was controversially scored the loser when he largely outfought the then inexperienced Fury in 2009, forcing the undefeated former world heavyweight champion into what remains his toughest fight.
A rivalry that captured the imagination of both the boxing and travelling communities – like Fury, the 37-year-old McDermott is also of travelling stock – only concluded the following year when Fury adapted and improved to win in nine rounds.
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If McDermott had undermined the reputation of an already-promising fighter, his own has since grown with Fury’s impressive accomplishments.
On Saturday at Los Angeles’ Staples Center, Fury challenges the heavy-handed Wilder – and despite concerns about his inactivity and still maintaining he beat him, McDermott has predicted Fury will win once again.
“The only thing against him is he’d had a long lay-off (of almost three years), and he’s not boxed anywhere near the class he needs to now,” he told Press Association Sport.
“If he’d had another two fights, a bit of a step-up in class – but I still think he’s going to win on points.
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“Fury’s not a renowned knockout specialist like (Anthony) Joshua or Wilder, but his boxing skills are too good for both of them.
“If anybody can beat both of them it’s Fury. Not because of his punching power – because he’s very quick, he’s awkward, he’s tall. He knows how to use his height.
“What he did (in 2015 to Wladimir) Klitschko was a bit embarrassing, wasn’t it? They were talking as though the man was unbeatable, and Tyson just wiped the floor with him. I didn’t think he had a chance, that Klitschko would land a big shot and that’d be it.
“Fury’s also been down, got up and found a way to win.”
It was before his fights with McDermott that Fury’s trash-talking was brought to the attention of a wider public.
Long considered an exciting talent, he was under intense pressure from within his community to win – and it is that which McDermott believes contributed to the composure that has become such a strength.
“I knew he’d be a good fighter,” said McDermott, whose 19 rounds against Fury are surpassed by only Dereck Chisora and who today works on the Crossrail.
McDermott added: “The first time he came to fight with me. In the second fight, he changed completely.
“At first he was coming forward and I had a chance to hit him; this time he used his size, it was completely different. Every time I got in close he tied me up – that would wear me out because I was trying to fight him off. He’d improved massively.
“Everyone was talking about it – the travelling community as well as the boxing community.
“(So) the pressure won’t bother him – he’s used to it. The only thing that’ll get to him is Wilder’s punches if he gets caught.
“He’ll enjoy the pressure. He’s been in big fights before; obviously he’s been through things in his life, but that’ll prepare him as well. Those things make you stronger.”
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/mcd...120030708.html
So it was confirmed today, the notoriously dodgy referee Jack Reiss will be working the fight. :(
Wilder will be permitted to foul as much as he wants without consequence. If Fury goes down, Reiss will wave his hands to signify TKO, but if Wilder goes down, he'll get extra time to recover.
I can't stand Jack Reiss, he's not just biased he loves the limelight. Fury will probably get DQ'd for clowning (Wilder wins by DQ 40/1)
Fury looks too skinny and gaunt, hope he hasnt overdone the weight loss
'DRAINED' Fans concerned for ‘worryingly slim’ Tyson Fury after latest pictures emerge just days before Deontay Wilder fight
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...-wilder-fight/
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I think the fitter heavyweights are the better. If he's just 10lb lighter than last time he'll be bang on the Wlad weight. He'll have 30lb on Wilder regardless.
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Its the speed hes lost the timber that worries me (Stamina) as i think he can only beat Wilder on points.
I read yesterday that he's lost the equivalent to a prime fighting Ricky Hatton in the last year alone - crazy but true 😂
Fury looks a bit adrift there as video goes ;D. Eventually people see a gaggle of 15+ strangers and cameras and instinctively go the other direction. He sounds haggard but no doubt he put as much if not more in drumming up a fight than Wilder has.
Yeah if he hadn't had two fights in the past 5 months losing a Hatton (140lb) would have been suicidal.
He said yesterday he's 257, I thought he looked fitter than that, and hope he's lying, as he didn't look too nimble last time weighing that.
Mike Tyson on Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury fight:
"Although Wilder's punch is strong, nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring. It'll be a close call, but I think Fury's got a true fighting chance."
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Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
You probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
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Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
Fair do's.Quote:
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Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
IMO anybody able to work their way up to Heavyweight Champion of the world has mental strength though and that comes outside the ring and working at it for 20 years. The in ring time is only a small part of what we see. Sure he went off the rails, but hey, he has worked through it and even if he gets flattened he went in there and faced the man. He is going in there against an undefeated champion this weekend on the back of 2 exhibitions and a 3 year lay off. Does that not take a certain degree of fortitude? If he had little mental strength he would be nowhere near a boxing ring. I think he has mental strength in abundance. I also think he has a soft spot for the good life that took over. But few work their way into the position Fury has and I am not even all that big a fan. He has a fortitude that many do not have. We are talking about a world where few really live their dreams and Tyson Fury this weekend is living it. How is that not a sign of character and strength?
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Originally Posted by GandalfFair do's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
IMO anybody able to work their way up to Heavyweight Champion of the world has mental strength though and that comes outside the ring and working at it for 20 years. The in ring time is only a small part of what we see. Sure he went off the rails, but hey, he has worked through it and even if he gets flattened he went in there and faced the man. He is going in there against an undefeated champion this weekend on the back of 2 exhibitions and a 3 year lay off. Does that not take a certain degree of fortitude? If he had little mental strength he would be nowhere near a boxing ring. I think he has mental strength in abundance. I also think he has a soft spot for the good life that took over. But few work their way into the position Fury has and I am not even all that big a fan. He has a fortitude that many do not have. We are talking about a world where few really live their dreams and Tyson Fury this weekend is living it. How is that not a sign of character and strength?
It's all in how you view it. I prefer the person who doesn't crash and burn in the first place. You work your way up from nothing... sure you make some mistakes along the way. But you don't piss off what you've achieved, because you never know if you'll ever get there again. THAT..... IMO, is mental fortitude. The huge peaks and valleys are a sign of mental instability, IMO. But credit to Fury for facing the man without too much hassle, unlike what AJ did/didn't do. That alone is worth something. Still... I'll believe it when the bell sounds for Round 1.
I see it differently in that people are just people and I think in the case of both Tyson and Fury you see people who have overcome adversity and that is more reflective of life in general. We are not all robots designed to be perfect and life and conditions can hit you in different ways at different times. Tyson Fury appears to have been through problems a bit like Ricky Hatton and you see it with a lot of sportsmen who achieve a goal or even fail to do so and find they hit a wall. To bounce back win or lose is tenacity and strength. You could say 'Oh, but he was weak because he got fat and self destructed', but it isn't that simple and never is. Maybe if you get several million dollars in the bank you too might think 'What more is there to achieve or do?' Someone like GGG might grind out a dozen wins against opponents he is meant to beat and not get fat, but it is just different strokes for different folks. Everyone has a different life story. If Fury quits in his corner at the end of round 2 crying to himself I will agree with you, but I see a determined man with a point to prove. It certainly makes this fight very interesting. I am supporting Wilder, but part of me wouldn't be too upset to see Fury do a Lacy.Quote:
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Originally Posted by GandalfFair do's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
IMO anybody able to work their way up to Heavyweight Champion of the world has mental strength though and that comes outside the ring and working at it for 20 years. The in ring time is only a small part of what we see. Sure he went off the rails, but hey, he has worked through it and even if he gets flattened he went in there and faced the man. He is going in there against an undefeated champion this weekend on the back of 2 exhibitions and a 3 year lay off. Does that not take a certain degree of fortitude? If he had little mental strength he would be nowhere near a boxing ring. I think he has mental strength in abundance. I also think he has a soft spot for the good life that took over. But few work their way into the position Fury has and I am not even all that big a fan. He has a fortitude that many do not have. We are talking about a world where few really live their dreams and Tyson Fury this weekend is living it. How is that not a sign of character and strength?
It's all in how you view it. I prefer the person who doesn't crash and burn in the first place. You work your way up from nothing... sure you make some mistakes along the way. But you don't piss off what you've achieved, because you never know if you'll ever get there again. THAT..... IMO, is mental fortitude. The huge peaks and valleys are a sign of mental instability, IMO. But credit to Fury for facing the man without too much hassle, unlike what AJ did/didn't do. That alone is worth something. Still... I'll believe it when the bell sounds for Round 1.
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Originally Posted by GandalfI see it differently in that people are just people and I think in the case of both Tyson and Fury you see people who have overcome adversity and that is more reflective of life in general. We are not all robots designed to be perfect and life and conditions can hit you in different ways at different times. Tyson Fury appears to have been through problems a bit like Ricky Hatton and you see it with a lot of sportsmen who achieve a goal or even fail to do so and find they hit a wall. To bounce back win or lose is tenacity and strength. You could say 'Oh, but he was weak because he got fat and self destructed', but it isn't that simple and never is. Maybe if you get several million dollars in the bank you too might think 'What more is there to achieve or do?' Someone like GGG might grind out a dozen wins against opponents he is meant to beat and not get fat, but it is just different strokes for different folks. Everyone has a different life story. If Fury quits in his corner at the end of round 2 crying to himself I will agree with you, but I see a determined man with a point to prove. It certainly makes this fight very interesting. I am supporting Wilder, but part of me wouldn't be too upset to see Fury do a Lacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfFair do's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
IMO anybody able to work their way up to Heavyweight Champion of the world has mental strength though and that comes outside the ring and working at it for 20 years. The in ring time is only a small part of what we see. Sure he went off the rails, but hey, he has worked through it and even if he gets flattened he went in there and faced the man. He is going in there against an undefeated champion this weekend on the back of 2 exhibitions and a 3 year lay off. Does that not take a certain degree of fortitude? If he had little mental strength he would be nowhere near a boxing ring. I think he has mental strength in abundance. I also think he has a soft spot for the good life that took over. But few work their way into the position Fury has and I am not even all that big a fan. He has a fortitude that many do not have. We are talking about a world where few really live their dreams and Tyson Fury this weekend is living it. How is that not a sign of character and strength?
It's all in how you view it. I prefer the person who doesn't crash and burn in the first place. You work your way up from nothing... sure you make some mistakes along the way. But you don't piss off what you've achieved, because you never know if you'll ever get there again. THAT..... IMO, is mental fortitude. The huge peaks and valleys are a sign of mental instability, IMO. But credit to Fury for facing the man without too much hassle, unlike what AJ did/didn't do. That alone is worth something. Still... I'll believe it when the bell sounds for Round 1.
Fair enough. It's not about being a robot though. I value consistency and steadfastness. Anyone can stumble and get back up... but for mental strength, I prefer the man who doesn't fall too far off course. Again... Fury's to be admired for some things. But to hear Iron Mike extol his mental toughness outside the ring just sounded kind of hollow. You've got plenty of examples of guys who came up from nothing and made something out of themselves, and rarely deviated too far off course. Fury was at the pinnacle of the sport.... then pissed some key years away. If he beats Wilder he'll complete a comeback of sorts... but why go there in the first place? Who knows what all Fury could've achieved had he seized the moment after beating Wlad.
On the whole I do too, but I see how some go off the rails and that's just how it is. For every Federer or a Hopkins or Messi or Davis you have your McEnroe or Toney or Best or Higgins. Some have their flaws, but to get to that level with flaws is perhaps even more monumental. People often relate to it more as they see it is more human. Federer was a bit boring when he was superman. You could say the same about Wlad too. Even you warmed to him once he showed a bit of heart at the end. Sometimes consistency and steadfastness is just boring.Quote:
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Originally Posted by GandalfI see it differently in that people are just people and I think in the case of both Tyson and Fury you see people who have overcome adversity and that is more reflective of life in general. We are not all robots designed to be perfect and life and conditions can hit you in different ways at different times. Tyson Fury appears to have been through problems a bit like Ricky Hatton and you see it with a lot of sportsmen who achieve a goal or even fail to do so and find they hit a wall. To bounce back win or lose is tenacity and strength. You could say 'Oh, but he was weak because he got fat and self destructed', but it isn't that simple and never is. Maybe if you get several million dollars in the bank you too might think 'What more is there to achieve or do?' Someone like GGG might grind out a dozen wins against opponents he is meant to beat and not get fat, but it is just different strokes for different folks. Everyone has a different life story. If Fury quits in his corner at the end of round 2 crying to himself I will agree with you, but I see a determined man with a point to prove. It certainly makes this fight very interesting. I am supporting Wilder, but part of me wouldn't be too upset to see Fury do a Lacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfFair do's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou probably have not had the kind of life Mike Tyson has had. The man has mental strength. A weaker person would be dead already with the kind of childhood Tyson had, but Tyson has made a life outside of boxing, grew as a person, has his faculties, and faced his demons. He has mental strength. I think he has turned out just fine all things considered.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Mental strength out of the ring? I guess Mike's definition of mental strength is different than mine.
I must admit that I am getting uneasy about this fight. If Fury can frustrate and spoil as I am sure he will then this could get awkward for Wilder. Then again if Wilder is going to use his athleticism and unleash from unusual angles it is Fury in trouble. It's a great match up and I do not mind the under card either. It has some names looking to stay busy and fair enough I say.
You misunderstood. Not talking about Mike.
"....nothing can compare to the mental strength Fury has shown both in and out of the ring...."
Mike was referring to Fury. Fury has shown little mental strength outside the ring. Anyone who implodes like Fury did after winning the heavyweight world championship has little mental strength IMO.
IMO anybody able to work their way up to Heavyweight Champion of the world has mental strength though and that comes outside the ring and working at it for 20 years. The in ring time is only a small part of what we see. Sure he went off the rails, but hey, he has worked through it and even if he gets flattened he went in there and faced the man. He is going in there against an undefeated champion this weekend on the back of 2 exhibitions and a 3 year lay off. Does that not take a certain degree of fortitude? If he had little mental strength he would be nowhere near a boxing ring. I think he has mental strength in abundance. I also think he has a soft spot for the good life that took over. But few work their way into the position Fury has and I am not even all that big a fan. He has a fortitude that many do not have. We are talking about a world where few really live their dreams and Tyson Fury this weekend is living it. How is that not a sign of character and strength?
It's all in how you view it. I prefer the person who doesn't crash and burn in the first place. You work your way up from nothing... sure you make some mistakes along the way. But you don't piss off what you've achieved, because you never know if you'll ever get there again. THAT..... IMO, is mental fortitude. The huge peaks and valleys are a sign of mental instability, IMO. But credit to Fury for facing the man without too much hassle, unlike what AJ did/didn't do. That alone is worth something. Still... I'll believe it when the bell sounds for Round 1.
Fair enough. It's not about being a robot though. I value consistency and steadfastness. Anyone can stumble and get back up... but for mental strength, I prefer the man who doesn't fall too far off course. Again... Fury's to be admired for some things. But to hear Iron Mike extol his mental toughness outside the ring just sounded kind of hollow. You've got plenty of examples of guys who came up from nothing and made something out of themselves, and rarely deviated too far off course. Fury was at the pinnacle of the sport.... then pissed some key years away. If he beats Wilder he'll complete a comeback of sorts... but why go there in the first place? Who knows what all Fury could've achieved had he seized the moment after beating Wlad.
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Has Fury cracked him? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhlEeMDH-o
"Expert" Predictions: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury
Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
Wilder by KO
Nick Parkinson
ESPN UK
Wilder KO 10
Tony Bellew
Former cruiserweight titlist
Wilder by decision
Juan Manuel Marquez
ESPN Deportes/Golpe a Golpe
Wilder by decision
Teddy Atlas
ESPN TV
Wilder by KO
Nigel Collins
ESPN.com
Wilder by KO
Mark Kriegel
ESPN TV
Wilder by TKO 10
Steve Kim
ESPN.com
Fury by decision
Eric Raskin
HBO Boxing
Wilder by decision
Joe Cortez
ESPN Deportes
Wilder by KO8
Charles Moynihan
ESPN Bureau Producer
Wilder by TKO 9
Mike Tyson
Former heavyweight champion
I like Anthony Joshua.
Evander Holyfield
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder KO / Fury PTS
Lennox Lewis
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder Early / Fury Late
George Foreman
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder by decision
Riddick Bowe
Former heavyweight champion
Wilder by KO with ease.
Gerry Cooney
Former heavyweight title contender
Wilder by KO inside 4.
Luis "King Kong" Ortiz
Heavyweight title contender
Wilder by KO
Chris Arreola
Former heavyweight title contender
Wilder to win
Salvador Rodriguez
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by decision
Claudia Trejos
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by KO early
Bernardo Pilatti
ESPNdeportes.com
Wilder by KO early
Delvin Rodriguez
ESPN Deportes
Wilder by KO
Jorge Eduardo Sanchez
ESPN Deportes
Fury by decision
Pablo Viruega
ESPN Deportes/Noche de Combates
Wilder by TKO
Score: Wilder - 22 / Fury - 2 / Joshua - 1.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I think Furys got him rattled and Wilder has come apart mentally.
I think a huge factor is that Fury is going down a storm in the US while nobody knows who the fuck Wilder is.
The video the other day proves that and i think Wilders jealousy has turned bitter and theres genuine hate.
Furys never gonna lose when it comes to verbal warfare and hes simply tying Wilder in knots at will.
We could see Wilder fighting on emotion for the first time and come out air conditioning the Staples Centre with that right hand.
I really do think this is Tysons to lose and this will be an epic story if he pulls this off.
Wilder is so dangerous as long as hes standing though so anything could happen.
Not looked forward to a Heavyweight fight this much for decades 😎👊🏻
That's very wide. Atlas has put on the curse and American punters have a habit of doing a Lacy. I see Wilder as favorite, but I re-watched Wilder/Ortiz earlier and had to wonder. If Wilder starts slow it could be difficult as Fury is not going to be so stationary as Ortiz or as easy to time. I think he needs to show more output and ensure he takes rounds just in case he cannot dent Fury. If Stiverne can take him the distance, then Fury can too. It is interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Billy Joe Saunders has bet £70,000 on Fury to win @ 11/8
Pays him back around £166,000
Interesting press conference.
I have always been team Fury, and 100% believe the only man that beats Fury is himself, at least for this bout.
However if it doesn't go Fury's way I doubt we will see him fight again.
Wilder sounds like such a dummy.
Wilder goes all Mike Tyson: "I'm gonna eat you! My family's gonna eat you!