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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
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Spicoli
Purse bid for Scull delayed for the second time :embarassed:. Maybe Scull is just playing hard ball for the step aside. Right? Surely. The fan in me clings to desperate vanishing :vanish: hope that Canelo...and his people working the opposite corner...are just waiting to see how Benavidez fight plays out this Saturday. The man just won't commit to much now will he. Just doesn't have it in him.
you're right they'll be waiting to see how david b goes this weekend
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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
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TIC
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TitoFan
First, don't pretend to speak for others. Speak for yourself. That is the adult man thing to do. Second, the fact that you repeat the same phrase over and over again ("exaggerations, hyperbole & double standards") doesn't make any of your claims true. That's just another one of your trademark childish techniques you use, like when you repeat your bogus, outlandish claims about COVID. No one here takes you seriously, and yes... this time I'll make an exception to "not speaking for others" because everyone here knows just how deluded you've always been about the subject.
Your questions? I've answered the ones I see fit to answer. I've asked my own which you ignore. At that point I stop answering yours. That's the way the game is played, and when you put your big boy pants on, then you and I can engage in the boxing banter you previously claimed we were having.
It's perfectly clear that my opinions on Canelo bother you. And all you do is bring up irrelevant after irrelevant examples. Then you ask all these nonsensical and irrelevant questions, expecting answers, and claiming some sort of moral victory when they're not answered. I used to see these same arguing techniques in middle school, so you'll have to excuse me if sometimes I find myself questioning your age. Not your physical age... but your emotional one.
I know you have a pathological need to have the last word (another middle school style behavior), so obviously you'll have a retort to this. But this suddenly stopped being about Canelo... so I'll be leaving the conversation soon.
I know what really eats at you (LOL). It's my colorful list of adjectives for Canelo. Is this what offends you? Does it bother you personally when I refer to Canelo as a cherry-picking, coddled, redheaded diva, manufactured, trinket-grabbing, WBC teacher's pet (new one), judge-buying, ginger-haired, ducking & marinating bitch ass clown? Does this affect your emotions in any way? Does that prevent us from having that "boxing banter" you claim we have? Would you like me to stop using these colorful descriptions of Canelito? Does it really bother you that much? Are you so invested in Canelo fanboyism that these conversations hurt you?
Answer all my questions. Otherwise I'll "take the ball and go home."
It's just a boxing.forum, dude. Quit looking for confrontations, which you seem prone to do. After this I'll be going to have breakfast... and I'm sure you'll go back to your Etch-N-Sketch, Play-Dough, or whatever other activity it is that you're doing. Learn to live with differing opinions. You'll have a fuller and more rewarding life.
okay so it's fine for you to speak for others?
i repeat the same phrases because you bore me, what clsims are you referring to? i'm just giving my subjective opinions on canelo, you don't have to agree with them
i just ask people what they believe covid is & how they proved those beliefs are true. it's only outlandish to you because you are unable to prove your beliefs are true
answer what you want, no one is forcing you to do anything here
why would your opinons about canelo bother me? i'm not canelo. he's just a boxer that i've enjoyed watching over the years, somethings i've liked some things i've disliked about his career
am i not allowed to ask questions? you aren't forced to read them or respond
i have no need to have the last word but i'll respond if i feel like it. if you reply to this post does that make you the one with the pathological need to have the last word?
call canelo whatever you like. i'm all for free speech. why would i be offended by words on a screen? again i'm all for free speech, so please say what you like. i'm not canelo. i don't think he cares what you or i say on here. your words about a boxer don't bother me at all, as i said i'm all for free speech
it is just a boxing forum. i'll post what i like, are you trying to restrict my free speech? i'm happy you have your opinions. i hope your happy i have mine
Just curious you said there was some things about canelo you didn't like. What would those be?
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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
he tested positive for peds
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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
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TIC
he tested positive for peds
Meant to like that post. Hit dislike by accident Yeah that's a good example.
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TIC
he tested positive for peds
Just like Fury.
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TIC
he tested positive for peds
Just like Fury.
i was asked about canelo but you're right
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TitoFan
All are shit.
The trifecta of shat. One is just a lot taller than the others.
On a side hopefully ol Ginger clears up that procrastinated Scull super-fight now that Benavidez has fought. Pins and needles here
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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
canelo v tank for the face of boxing
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TIC
canelo v tank for the face of boxing
LMAO.
That's funny, bro.
But you know.... although it's obviously aimed at me..... I wouldn't be surprised if you were being serious.
Based on your list of fav fighters I feel you truly believe that.
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Why did you leave out PrincessRy?
I'm sure they could do a threesome for the face of boxing.
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the purse bid for canelo v william scull has been cancelled so some sort of deal has been reached. i'd say william in september & then terence in january, unless turki has paid to have terence first
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TitoFan
It must do a number on Buds head to have billionaires clamor for a fight the 'star' has already outright dismissed. Then again, Canelo hasn't come close to dismissing a Scull gimme. Calling it...Berlanga in Sept and the talk will be "at least it's not Scull or Charlo". The bar lowers itself at this point.
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TitoFan
why's it a circus fight?
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Spicoli
Berlanga in Sept and the talk will be "at least it's not Scull or Charlo". The bar lowers itself at this point.
i'd take william over edgar. it's funny the double standards. frank martin is considered a good opponent for tank but jaime & william are brushed off for canelo
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Spicoli
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TitoFan
It must do a number on Buds head to have billionaires clamor for a fight the 'star' has already outright dismissed. Then again, Canelo hasn't come close to dismissing a Scull gimme. Calling it...Berlanga in Sept and the talk will be "at least it's not Scull or Charlo". The bar lowers itself at this point.
Yeah, I'd put money on that. Berlanga checks all the right boxes for Team Canelo. With the added bonus that he's a true 168-pounder. Being Puerto Rican is the icing on the cake. It's a no-brainer for me. This one just fell into Canelo's lap. After Berlanga, the possibility of Crawford looms large. Canelo had at one point said he'd only fight Bud at 168. But I'm sure the whispers in his ear probably warned him against public opinion on that one... and it seems Canelo might even decide to "sacrifice" himself and drop to 160. Of course, rehydration would take care of that particular issue... and we'd have yet another instance of Canelo fighting a much smaller fighter, when he practically ignored the one 168-pounder that was ready and willing, and would've knocked the red out of Ginger's hair.
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TIC
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Spicoli
Berlanga in Sept and the talk will be "at least it's not Scull or Charlo". The bar lowers itself at this point.
i'd take william over edgar. it's funny the double standards. frank martin is considered a good opponent for tank but jaime & william are brushed off for canelo
That's what they're counting on. A fanboy choice between two terrible options is actually not having a choice at all. I enjoy a good steak as much as the next guy but I'm not going to stick my head up a bull's ass for a high price nibble and pretend it's fine dining :feedme:. It's gar'bage that they're even in the conversation for Canelo.
Think I said the Munguia fight would be a "fun fight" was "a good match (for what Canelos willing to face)" and "pretty solid" once announced...So I don't know of double standards you speak of. Feel free to scroll back. Shoot, I was ten times more critical of the predictable Charlo circus blow out than I was any Munguia fight. That was his pass to get to a more serious fight.
Both Berlanga and Scull have been 'positioned'. They've done nothing. At all. But Berlanga has the local familiarity if only for all the wrong reasons and old school PR v Mexico rivalry sells. And he's also very beatable which perks up the ears of retirement tour Canelo. I'm half expecting him to ride a golf cart to the ring for his fight intro.
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Spicoli
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TIC
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Spicoli
Berlanga in Sept and the talk will be "at least it's not Scull or Charlo". The bar lowers itself at this point.
i'd take william over edgar. it's funny the double standards. frank martin is considered a good opponent for tank but jaime & william are brushed off for canelo
That's what they're counting on. A fanboy choice between two terrible options is actually not having a choice at all. I enjoy a good steak as much as the next guy but I'm not going to stick my head up a bull's ass for a high price nibble and pretend it's fine dining :feedme:. It's gar'bage that they're even in the conversation for Canelo.
Think I said the Munguia fight would be a "fun fight" was "a good match (for what Canelos willing to face)" and "pretty solid" once announced...So I don't know of double standards you speak of. Feel free to scroll back. Shoot, I was ten times more critical of the predictable Charlo circus blow out than I was any Munguia fight. That
was his pass to get to a more serious fight.
Both Berlanga and Scull have been 'positioned'. They've done nothing. At all. But Berlanga has the local familiarity if only for all the wrong reasons and old school PR v Mexico rivalry sells. And he's also very beatable which perks up the ears of retirement tour Canelo. I'm half expecting him to ride a golf cart to the ring for his fight intro.
the double standards weren't aimed at you directly just in general. frank was being talked about as one of tanks toughest opponents. i'd still take william over edgar
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Re: Who is next for Canelo?
william scull has confirmed he has agreed to step aside
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Chris Eubank Jr could be set to receive a stunning title shot against Canelo Alvarez.
Reports have indicated that Eubank Jr is in shock pole-position to land a shot against undisputed 168lbs champion Alvarez.
Reports from ESPN reporter Salvador Rodriguez claim that negotiations are already underway, and he is the primary option ahead of potential rivals Edgar Berlanga and Jermall Charlo.
It was expected that Alvarez will return on September 14 as traditional on the Mexican Independence Day weekend.
But this could now be pushed back as to not clash with UFC's plotted show in new Las Vegas venue The Sphere, which is being targeted for September 14 by Dana White.
https://talksport.com/sport/1950421/...disputed-date/
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chris eubank jr would be a good fight for fans if it's in the uk
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TitoFan
I vote for Eubank Jr.
I was hoping for Conor Benn. But not sure he can even fight in his own country again? I mean, not like divisions factor in, right? Historic name background, bit of a heel factor to build the conquering explorer and world traveler Canelo up. Exciting style and if they happen to form a bond of some sort perhaps they can share fine dining recipes for steak & eggs dishes served in a lab Petri dish ;D. It's actually sad Canelo/boxing lost the Mexican Independence Day date that has become a staple. Ironically to the new ufc debut venture with Turki and Riyadh season. I wouldn't expect Canelo to fight on the date again.
Chis Eubank Jr...:lolhaha:. Sure. Whatever boxing. Don't forget to gently scrub in between the toes of our bespeckled King Canelo with a luffa sponge and feed him grapes pre fight.
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TitoFan
I vote for Eubank Jr.
I was hoping for Conor Benn. But not sure he can even fight in his own country again? I mean, not like divisions factor in, right? Historic name background, bit of a heel factor to build the conquering explorer and world traveler Canelo up. Exciting style and if they happen to form a bond of some sort perhaps they can share fine dining recipes for steak & eggs dishes served in a lab Petri dish ;D. It's actually sad Canelo/boxing lost the Mexican Independence Day date that has become a staple. Ironically to the new ufc debut venture with Turki and Riyadh season. I wouldn't expect Canelo to fight on the date again.
Chis Eubank Jr...:lolhaha:. Sure. Whatever boxing. Don't forget to gently scrub in between the toes of our bespeckled King Canelo with a luffa sponge and feed him grapes pre fight.
Crap fight, but I vote for it for selfish reasons. ;D
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I heard about this possibility the other day , it would be a kick in the bollocks for the U.K. promoters.
Eubank isn’t the name he once was at World level .This could be a stretch even for Canelo’s marketing team to sell and justify this.
We’ll see.
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Primo Carnera
I heard about this possibility the other day , it would be a kick in the bollocks for the U.K. promoters.
Eubank isn’t the name he once was at World level .This could be a stretch even for Canelo’s marketing team to sell and justify this.
We’ll see.
https://x.com/skysportsboxing/status...EDAv7G0yEYws2A
Update! Looks like he’s signed with Boxxer (Ben Shalom) and that means , if it happens, Sky would take this fight in the U.K. naturally on Box office.
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"I'm very excited to have signed with Boxxer and [promoter] Ben Shalom," said Eubank Jr. "They fit the direction I want to go in. We have big plans over the next 12 to 24 months.
"There are big fights in the pipeline and these guys can make it happen. This is a partnership. I have the freedom and the leeway to work how I want to work, which is very rare.
"I'm in a position of power. I'm in a position to really control the direction that I want to go in so I'm excited."
Eubank Jr has been heavily linked with a bout against Mexico's WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF super-middleweight title holder Alvarez, and says it is a meeting "the fans want to see".
He added: "It's a fight I think I could win. The fans want to see Canelo in with guys who are going to press him, who are not going to back down, who are not going to shy away and crumble under the pressure. The fight fans know that’s the type of fighter I am."
Shalom added: "We've had the privilege of working with Chris on some massive fight nights in the UK and there will be plenty more to come in the UK and worldwide. He is a bonafide pay-per-view star.
"The hunger and ambition is there. We can't wait to see him back in action and involved in some massive fights."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/a...s/cpv3nxy20d6o
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Alvarez should relinquish the titles so he can pursue the fights he wishes & not hold up division
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Sadly, way too predictable. But at least there's truth to the early fight posters. Quackity quack ;D https://i.imgur.com/vsjQ230.jpeg
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5th round TKO victory for Ginger over "not Benavidez." You heard it here first.
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5th round TKO victory for Ginger over "not Benavidez." You heard it here first.
Right after he is thru waiting on the same night Riyadh season UFC Vegas card to finish up. He'll walk when he's told he can walk. "I can do whatever I want" :jester-new:. Absolute trash fight.
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TitoFan
"not Benavidez."
david b already confirmed he was staying at light heavy & giving up his wbc super middle interim belt
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TitoFan
"not Benavidez."
david b already confirmed he was staying at light heavy & giving up his wbc super middle interim belt
Canelo: "Damn... and I was going to fight him next."
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The minimal vid contribution...though accurate...regarding this manufactured guaranteed mismatch. The same day it's announced is the same day Benavidez says he'll be mandatory and wants the winner of Bivol v Beterbiev right off. Says literally everything of the fire in the gut of these two. It's getting lost that Canelo is conceding and running limp on different levels here. Sure, he's fighting on "his date" when the UFC is holding a massive card the same night. But it won't be head-to-head. But he'll also again wait until the Ufc card is a wrap before taking the ring. Just like the Kovalev fight where they sat around in the back twiddling their thumbs. It's a terrible look for "the face of boxing" who doesn't make huge fights now and is not confident in the event standing on its own tbh. Sure looks that way.
https://youtu.be/-L0l2oL0d_8
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Canelo Alvarez is reportedly being stripped of one super middleweight crown as he prepares to defend his three others against Edgar Berlanga on September 14 in Las Vegas.
Alvarez's mandatory IBF title defense against that governing body's No. 1 contender, William Scull, is overdue, ESPN reports.
The IBF will reportedly order a fight between Scull and Vladimir Shiskin.
'Once we officially notify the involved parties we will issue a statement,' IBF president Daryl Peoples told ESPN.
The unified champion (61-2-2, 39 KOs) will put the WBC, WBA and WBO versions of the 168-pound title on the line in the bout at T-Mobile Arena, which will be available by pay-per-view on Prime Video.
Berlanga (22-0, 17 KOs) won his first 16 pro fights by first-round knockout, though hadn't shown the same explosive power since moving up in weight until stopping Padraig McCrory in February in his most recent bout.
The New York native who represents Puerto Rico is ranked No. 1 by the WBA at 168 pounds.
Erislandy Lara will defend his WBA middleweight title against Danny Garcia, a former champion at 140 and 147 pounds, in the co-main event.
The Berlanga fight comes after Alvarez's failure – or reluctance – to strike a deal with contender David Benavidez, who has since moved up to light heavyweight with a win over Oleksandr Gvozdyk earlier this month.
Benavidez (29-0, 24 KOs) continues to hold out hope for a battle with Alvarez.
'That'd be a big fight,' said Benavidez on July 15, adding that needs to take some time off for his hand to heal. 'Now I´m at 175 these are some big boys, I´m looking forward to what´s next in the division. I still can make 168, I have a lot to prove.
'If I can go down to 168, there are big fights at 168. I want the opportunity ... if it´s Canelo or whoever, I want the opportunity to be a four-time world champion.'
Alvarez is coming off a ho-hum win, overcoming a somewhat slow start to dominate and hand Jaime Munguia (43-1) his first loss on May 5.
The champ took full control after knocking down Munguia in the fourth round before the announced crowd of 17,492, which was fairly evenly split between the two competitors.
This marked the second straight time that Alvarez left no doubt who was the better fighter and showing why, even at 34, he remains one of the sport's all-time greats. Alvarez also had his way with Jermell Charlo in September to win by even wider margins.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...-Berlanga.html
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As bad of an opponent as Berlanga is
Something must be said about Danny Garcia getting a shot at a 160 title :o
No fights in 2 years
Never fought at 160
Unless the undercard is stacked I have questions
Who's paying for this :confused:
Money laundering 101 :confused: