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I am glad my President was not found to be conspiring with Russia. I think that's a no brainer. Our legal process was begrudgingly allowed to conduct a thorough appointed investigation by all accounts and it has proven to do so fairly and properly. The report should be released for all to read.
The Cultural Marxist mainstream media doesn't need to fabricate negative stories about Trump and Russia.
There are some real and deserved criticisms that they can target him with, such as his poor record on some environmental issues.
Thats where the line blurs. I don't care about 'negative stories' about Russia. They unquestionably attempted and did interfere in elections and continue to do so. I care about the U.S. and I care that the office of the Presidency and POTUS not be in the habit of licking Putins boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I actually yearn for the days of arguing policies rather than the recent numb tribal horse shat that has overtaken voters.
Except it was started by Hillary Clinton colluding with Russia to obtain false information which was used to falsely obtain a fisa warrant which allowed a sitting presidents administration to spy on a candidate of the opposing party. It’s like Richard Nixon of a triple dose of steroids. This whole thing was started under false (fake) pretenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
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Originally Posted by Freedom
Careful with that last sentence. It seems now that the collusion charges have been proven false, all "real and deserved criticism" now gets thrown under the bus.
Teflon Don can no longer be questioned about anything.
no tits it’s not that he is a particularly great president nor doesn’t say stupid things it was this set up from day one. Talking about impeachment before he even took office. Giving him a one percent chance of winning in the US papers of note the night before the election. Don’t you see anything strange in all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Careful with that last sentence. It seems now that the collusion charges have been proven false, all "real and deserved criticism" now gets thrown under the bus.
Teflon Don can no longer be questioned about anything.
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Originally Posted by walrusno tits it’s not that he is a particularly great president nor doesn’t say stupid things it was this set up from day one. Talking about impeachment before he even took office. Giving him a one percent chance of winning in the US papers of note the night before the election. Don’t you see anything strange in all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Careful with that last sentence. It seems now that the collusion charges have been proven false, all "real and deserved criticism" now gets thrown under the bus.
Teflon Don can no longer be questioned about anything.
I see a media mostly full of hate for Trump. The hate's mutual... no love lost there. I see Democrats frothing at the mouth, suddenly dropping any useful agenda they might have had in order to gather up pitchforks and torches and rush to the White House. I've always seen this. On the other hand, as you well put it, no..... he's not a particularly great President, and yes..... he definitely says stupid things.
From Day One, I always maintained that Trump was needed for: #1, keeping the witch out of the WH, #2, send a loud and clear message to Washington that lame politics as usual will no longer be good enough.
Unfortunately, since Trump himself is kind of an A-hole, a lot of decent, common sense principles have gotten tossed in the dumpster. Being an A-hole is now ok for a POTUS.
Alright tits I guess you won’t look at the dirty underside and Hillary’s involvement, Comey and so many others. It’s a great country that we can have our top leader investigated. Can you imagine if the tried this with Xi or Putin but the way this whole thing started was improper, misleading and illegal. Perhaps you won’t or don’t want to look at that but that is my issue here.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusno tits it’s not that he is a particularly great president nor doesn’t say stupid things it was this set up from day one. Talking about impeachment before he even took office. Giving him a one percent chance of winning in the US papers of note the night before the election. Don’t you see anything strange in all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Careful with that last sentence. It seems now that the collusion charges have been proven false, all "real and deserved criticism" now gets thrown under the bus.
Teflon Don can no longer be questioned about anything.
I see a media mostly full of hate for Trump. The hate's mutual... no love lost there. I see Democrats frothing at the mouth, suddenly dropping any useful agenda they might have had in order to gather up pitchforks and torches and rush to the White House. I've always seen this. On the other hand, as you well put it, no..... he's not a particularly great President, and yes..... he definitely says stupid things.
From Day One, I always maintained that Trump was needed for: #1, keeping the witch out of the WH, #2, send a loud and clear message to Washington that lame politics as usual will no longer be good enough.
Unfortunately, since Trump himself is kind of an A-hole, a lot of decent, common sense principles have gotten tossed in the dumpster. Being an A-hole is now ok for a POTUS.
So does this mean that Kirkland will STFU about Russian collusion and stop spamming the site with fake news? Owned. ;)
A compendium of Kirkland Laing's Janet and John sources. Laugh randomly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyaA3oAwXBM
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Originally Posted by walrusAlright tits I guess you won’t look at the dirty underside and Hillary’s involvement, Comey and so many others. It’s a great country that we can have our top leader investigated. Can you imagine if the tried this with Xi or Putin but the way this whole thing started was improper, misleading and illegal. Perhaps you won’t or don’t want to look at that but that is my issue here.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusno tits it’s not that he is a particularly great president nor doesn’t say stupid things it was this set up from day one. Talking about impeachment before he even took office. Giving him a one percent chance of winning in the US papers of note the night before the election. Don’t you see anything strange in all this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Careful with that last sentence. It seems now that the collusion charges have been proven false, all "real and deserved criticism" now gets thrown under the bus.
Teflon Don can no longer be questioned about anything.
I see a media mostly full of hate for Trump. The hate's mutual... no love lost there. I see Democrats frothing at the mouth, suddenly dropping any useful agenda they might have had in order to gather up pitchforks and torches and rush to the White House. I've always seen this. On the other hand, as you well put it, no..... he's not a particularly great President, and yes..... he definitely says stupid things.
From Day One, I always maintained that Trump was needed for: #1, keeping the witch out of the WH, #2, send a loud and clear message to Washington that lame politics as usual will no longer be good enough.
Unfortunately, since Trump himself is kind of an A-hole, a lot of decent, common sense principles have gotten tossed in the dumpster. Being an A-hole is now ok for a POTUS.
Yes, because that is EXACTLY what I've been saying. :-X
C'mon, my tusked brother..... you know better than that. Don't fall into the trap so many others fall, where you find yourself twisting words and jumping on omissions. In other words, don't jump to baseless conclusions.
To paraphrase George Sr., "Read my lips.... let's get to the bottom of this whole circus."
Just because I didn't write "fake" a million times, it doesn't mean I don't think Hillary and a few other crooked politicians could've been behind the witch hunt.
You're better than that.
Whoever f*cked up, I'd just like there to be an honest (if that still exists), unbiased (fat chance), thorough investigation into who's behind all this sordid mess.
It is still inconclusive as to whether Mr Trump obstructed justice.
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Originally Posted by Master
As usual, there's probably more than enough blame to throw around. Watching news coverage on the proceedings is in itself cringe-worthy. On the other hand, what's with the delay in releasing the entire report? Why the circus around the summary and its merits or lack thereof? In a perfect, transparent world, the full report would have been made public already, and let the chips fall where they may.
In short, just as Trump likely conducted himself in an inappropriate manner in all sorts of ways, even if he wasn't actively involved in any collusion........ by the same token it's getting tiresome how the news just continues to salivate and leap on every frigging syllable. Watching Mika (whatever) ask about the word "knowingly" in the summary, is watching a totally biased TV talking head grasping at straws, and desperate in her wishes to have Trump hung from the highest lamppost.
What am I saying? That these past two years have been disgusting in truckloads. Gone is any pretense of decorum from our POTUS..... and his enemies are almost if not equally as bad. The whole thing has been a f*cking nightmare.
You have this and we have brexit. 2 years of waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
As usual, there's probably more than enough blame to throw around. Watching news coverage on the proceedings is in itself cringe-worthy. On the other hand, what's with the delay in releasing the entire report? Why the circus around the summary and its merits or lack thereof? In a perfect, transparent world, the full report would have been made public already, and let the chips fall where they may.
In short, just as Trump likely conducted himself in an inappropriate manner in all sorts of ways, even if he wasn't actively involved in any collusion........ by the same token it's getting tiresome how the news just continues to salivate and leap on every frigging syllable. Watching Mika (whatever) ask about the word "knowingly" in the summary, is watching a totally biased TV talking head grasping at straws, and desperate in her wishes to have Trump hung from the highest lamppost.
What am I saying? That these past two years have been disgusting in truckloads. Gone is any pretense of decorum from our POTUS..... and his enemies are almost if not equally as bad. The whole thing has been a f*cking nightmare.
For the next POTUS, I fully expect blowing raspberries at each other... spitball fights... and timeouts.
You really are an idiot. Master in the the US if you are accused of something take to court in win the case you are not declared innocent you are declared not guilty. Yes there is a distinction of the two. If I were to have a case against me go before a grand jury and they did not conclude enough evidence existed to issue a true bill I wouldn’t get a call explaining why it just goes away and no one says you are innocent. It’s the legal jargon we have here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
1. CNN Accuses Don Jr. Of Wikileaks Collusion
Last December, CNN’s Manu Raju reported that Wikileaks emailed Donald Trump Jr. to give him access to stolen documents a full 10 days before they were released to the public.
Unfortunately for CNN, it turns out their sources gave them the wrong date. Don Jr. actually received an email with access to the stolen docs on Sept. 14, 2016, after they had already been released publicly.
2. ABC Tanks Stock Market With Fake Flynn News
ABC was forced to suspend Brian Ross after he falsely reported that former national security adviser Michael Flynn was prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump ordered him to make contact with the Russians.
The stock market dropped a few hundred points at the news — but it turned out to be fake.
ABC clarified that Flynn was actually prepared to testify that Trump asked him to contact Russia while the administration was transitioning into office. Pretty standard preparation for an incoming president.
3. The Mooch Is NOT Under Investigation
CNN earns another spot on this list for their shoddy reporting about former Trump adviser Anthony, “The Mooch,” Scaramucci. In June, CNN relied on a single unnamed source to claim that Scaramucci was under investigation for a meeting he took with a Russian banker prior to Trump’s inauguration.
The Mooch denied the story and CNN later gave him a much-deserved apology. Oh … and three CNN employees resigned over the botched piece.
4. Bloomberg’s Dirty Deutsche Bank Scoop
Bloomberg initially reported in December that special counsel Robert Mueller had “zeroed in” on Trump by subpoenaing Deutsche Bank records for the incoming president and his family.
Bloomberg later admitted that Mueller was looking for records relating to “people affiliated” with Trump.
5. Sessions Exonerated
Last May, CNN was sure that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had botched protocol when he didn’t list meetings he had with the Russian ambassador on his security clearance forms. To CNN and other establishment media outlets, this was proof that Sessions was hiding something related to Russia.
A little over six months later, CNN quietly walked back the scandal, explaining the FBI sent emails informing Sessions’ aide that he did not need to disclose the meetings on his forms because they were carried out in the course of his duties as a senator.
6. Russians Aren’t Just Hacking The Election — They’re Hacking Our Power Grid
The Washington Post claimed in January 2017 that Russians were hacking the U.S. power grid through a company in Vermont, only to change the story to say that only one laptop was infiltrated. It turns out that one laptop was never even connected to the power grid.
7. Republicans Funded The Dossier!
A number of news outlets have consistently claimed that Republicans initially paid for the anti-Trump Steele dossier, failing to note that Steele wasn’t even contracted by Fusion GPS until after the GOP donors pulled funding. The Republican donors say they paid Fusion for standard opposition research and that they have zero connection to the dossier.
The media has perpetuated this falsehood so consistently that even former FBI director James Comey was confused, repeating the lie in an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier.
8. CNN Gets Comey Prediction Wildly Wrong
Prior to former FBI director James Comey’s congressional testimony last June, CNN asserted that Comey was prepared to contradict a key claim by President Trump — that Comey told him he was not under investigation.
Sadly for them, Comey’s prepared testimony was released with the line, “During our one-on-one meeting at Trump Tower … I offered that assurance [that he was not under investigation].”
9. The ’17 Intel Agencies’ Lie
The media perpetuated a false claim from presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for months, insisting that all 17 intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The New York Times, for example, rated that claim as true only to later say the exact opposite.
Only four intelligence agencies ultimately deemed Russia responsible for meddling because the other 13 have no business making judgments on the claim. As The NYT succinctly explained, “The rest were doing other work.”
10. Manafort Notes Are A Nothing Burger
NBC botched its big scoop claiming that Paul Manafort’s notes from a meeting with a Russian lawyer included the word “donations” near a reference to the Republican National Committee.
Turns out, not only did the word “donations” not appear in Manafort’s notes, but the word “donor” didn’t, either. POLITICO had to correct the NBC report, leaving the legacy network looking awfully embarrassed.
11. NBC Issues Cohen Correction
NBC issued a major correction in May on a story about wiretaps and Michael Cohen.
NBC initially claimed that federal investigators were listening in on Cohen’s phone calls, but it turns out they had what’s called a “pen register warrant,” which means they could see who Cohen spoke to on the phone but could not hear what was said.(RELATED: MSNBC Issues HUGE Correction To Michael Cohen ‘Wiretap’ Story)
12. Did Cohen Go To Prague?
A McClatchy report stated that special counsel Robert Mueller had evidence that Michael Cohen visited Prague in the summer of 2016, which seemed to corroborate the portion of the Steele dossier claiming Cohen visited Prague at that time to meet with a Kremlin official.
However, no other outlets ever confirmed the report and Cohen told Congress during an open hearing in February that he has never been to Prague. (RELATED: Here’s Why You Should Be Skeptical Of That Michael Cohen Prague Story)
13. Busted BuzzFeed
The special counsel’s office disputed a 2019 report by BuzzFeed claiming that Trump directed his lawyer to lie about a potential business deal in Moscow during the 2016 presidential campaign.
The BuzzFeed report was used to float impeachment proceedings and obstruction of justice charges against the president, but Mueller’s team disputed the core premise of the reporting.
“BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,” spokesman Peter Carr said in a statement to The Daily Caller News Foundation.
14. Lanny Davis Obliterates CNN’s Trump Tower Story
CNN reported in July that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen was prepared to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that the president had knowledge in advance of a Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians.
ut Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny Davis, said in August that CNN’s reporting got “mixed up” and that Cohen had no information related to the Trump Tower meeting. Cohen said the same to Congress on two separate occasions.
CNN doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on its reporting, despite a series of issues with the report.
15. NPR Accuses Don Jr. Of Perjury
NPR published a report in November insisting that Donald Trump Jr. lied to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow because his statements conflicted with those of former Trump attorney Michael Cohen.
However, NPR failed to realize that the piece of Trump Jr.’s testimony they quoted was about a different project.
“Trump Jr.’s statements about work on a Trump Tower Moscow that ended in 2014 referred to negotiations with Aras Agalarov,” The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Chuck Ross explained. “Felix Sater, a businessman with links to Cohen and Russian officials, tried to make a Trump Tower Moscow happen in 2015.”
16. Mic Claims Russian Spy Infiltrated The Oval
Shortly after it was revealed that a Russian spy was attempting to infiltrate right-wing networks, Mic writer Emily Singer claimed that same Russian spy was present during an Oval Office meeting with Russian diplomat Sergey Lavrov.
Singer claimed Russian spy Maria Butina was spotted in a photo of the meeting, citing the fact that she has red hair like the woman in the photo.
The woman in the photo is actually NSC staffer Cari Lutkins.
This story was originally published in May 2018 but has been updated with additional information regarding the delivery of Mueller’s report to Attorney General Bill Barr.
What I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No I tried to explain how our system works. You don’t seem to grasp it. If the AG doesn’t proceed with any charges it’s over. Sorry, I know that pisses people off but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What I said is still the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo I tried to explain how our system works. You don’t seem to grasp it. If the AG doesn’t proceed with any charges it’s over. Sorry, I know that pisses people off but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No actually it isn’t as no charges were filed. You are just hanging on to US dem talking points know but we will be hearing that for a while. Do you remember what this whole thing was about? It was about collusion with Russia do you have any comments on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I said is still the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo I tried to explain how our system works. You don’t seem to grasp it. If the AG doesn’t proceed with any charges it’s over. Sorry, I know that pisses people off but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No I do not but I do have a comment on Trump obstructing justice. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo actually it isn’t as no charges were filed. You are just hanging on to US dem talking points know but we will be hearing that for a while. Do you remember what this whole thing was about? It was about collusion with Russia do you have any comments on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I said is still the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo I tried to explain how our system works. You don’t seem to grasp it. If the AG doesn’t proceed with any charges it’s over. Sorry, I know that pisses people off but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I didn’t know you had CNN in cuck islandQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo I do not but I do have a comment on Trump obstructing justice. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo actually it isn’t as no charges were filed. You are just hanging on to US dem talking points know but we will be hearing that for a while. Do you remember what this whole thing was about? It was about collusion with Russia do you have any comments on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I said is still the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo I tried to explain how our system works. You don’t seem to grasp it. If the AG doesn’t proceed with any charges it’s over. Sorry, I know that pisses people off but it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat I have stated is the truth and you can not handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou hate him so much you can’t use reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are so far up Trump's ass you can not see the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou really are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
There's a difference between evidence and being able to prove something beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law and I've made this point endless times. There's lots of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, over a hundred meetings and contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians. So far we know that there's nothing that would be able to prove a criminal indictment in a court of law in a narrowly written range by the AG yesterday. We don't know the full story which will eventually come out in dribs and drabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Most of the Mueller investigation has been farmed out to other agencies. There are seventeen various investigations of Trump and his businesses ongoing right now. The Russia stuff was always going to end up in a partisan bunfight as I've said before. When it comes down to it, Republican voters don't care if Trump did work with Russia to steal the election. What will get Trump in the end is fraud, money laundering, things that the public can easily understand and crimes that can't just be excused or handwaved away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ-zxwHrJk
What's that? Did you hear that? That word? What word?
TREASON
I've been looking forward to this part for quite some time
So now is when he's going to drop the hammer and all the Democrats from Obama on down are going to get carted off to Guantanamo?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
As I always said before I'll say again now "We'll wait and see" ....Lindsey Graham has already called for a Special Counsel in his remarks today. The fun will begin soon I am confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You sounded more definitive in your first post. You've been looking forward to wait and see for a long time? Doesn't make sense Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAs I always said before I'll say again now "We'll wait and see" ....Lindsey Graham has already called for a Special Counsel in his remarks today. The fun will begin soon I am confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You can up your bet if you want. You only bet twenty dollars so far.
I've known from the start the Mueller investigation was bogus. I've had to wait for that to end to be vindicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I know that there will be charges brought against a gracious plenty of very high ranking people....you like to be cute and ask for specific dates and times....to which I just say "WAIT AND SEE"
$20 was the original bet, I never wanted to bet money, you demanded it, if you want to ante up then do it....it's your choice not mine, I'll not pressure you into anything you don't want. (I'd ask myself about how someone you think so little of knew there would be no Russia Collusion well ahead of time, but hey you do you).
Andrew McCabe, James Comey, John Brennan, Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, James Clapper....it'll eventually get to HRC and it'll eventually get to Obama.
Wait
and
see
The whole thing was disgusting. Sad for America.......sadQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI've known from the start the Mueller investigation was bogus. I've had to wait for that to end to be vindicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I know that there will be charges brought against a gracious plenty of very high ranking people....you like to be cute and ask for specific dates and times....to which I just say "WAIT AND SEE"
$20 was the original bet, I never wanted to bet money, you demanded it, if you want to ante up then do it....it's your choice not mine, I'll not pressure you into anything you don't want. (I'd ask myself about how someone you think so little of knew there would be no Russia Collusion well ahead of time, but hey you do you).
Andrew McCabe, James Comey, John Brennan, Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, James Clapper....it'll eventually get to HRC and it'll eventually get to Obama.
Wait
and
see
Over the last two years talking heads in the major media developed high hopes that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe would crescendo with dramatic flare.
Viewers likely started to imagine that the only possible outcome would be the Trump family being frog-walked out of the White House in handcuffs.
On Friday, Mueller's probe officially concluded. No further indictments will be filed, and no one in the Trump family will be indicted. The two-year investigation never charged anyone with conspiracy related to the Trump campaign and Russia.
The disappointment was evident on many of the news programs that served as the Mueller probe's biggest boosters. MSNBC's Rachel Maddow appeared to get emotional. Chris Matthews angrily asked why Mueller "let Trump off the hook?"
After all, in between frequent pronouncements of new “bombshells,” these networks hyped seemingly inevitable impeachment proceedings, claimed the probe revealed “treasonous” behavior, and predicted much, if not all, of the Trump team would wind up behind bars.
Over just the last couple of weeks, these TV talking heads — such as former U.S. prosecutor and current CNN analyst Preet Bharara as well as former CIA director and MSNBC analyst John Brennan — confidently projected Mueller would issue more indictments before wrapping his probe.
More dramatically, the media sometimes claimed these “bombshells” — many of which turned out to be untrue — were evidence of outright treason, a crime punishable by death.
https://news.grabien.com/story-flash...ults-impeachme
There have been nearly two hundred separate charges brought by this bogus investigation. There could be hundreds more as various parts of the Mueller probe have been passed off to various FBI offices and seventeen investigations of Trump are ongoing. We already know that the Trump campaign met various Russians over a hundred times for various reasons. The only thing Barr has rules out is that no Trump people colluded with the Russian government or its agencies, not that collusion didn't take place between the Trump people and Russians. It did! And a lot of those meetings are under investigation by various FBI offices.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI've known from the start the Mueller investigation was bogus. I've had to wait for that to end to be vindicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I know that there will be charges brought against a gracious plenty of very high ranking people....you like to be cute and ask for specific dates and times....to which I just say "WAIT AND SEE"
$20 was the original bet, I never wanted to bet money, you demanded it, if you want to ante up then do it....it's your choice not mine, I'll not pressure you into anything you don't want. (I'd ask myself about how someone you think so little of knew there would be no Russia Collusion well ahead of time, but hey you do you).
Andrew McCabe, James Comey, John Brennan, Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, James Clapper....it'll eventually get to HRC and it'll eventually get to Obama.
Wait
and
see
I'm not asking for dates and times and never have. You're saying definitively that a bunch of high ranking people from Obama on down are going to be facing charges. I say they won't. So far we have twenty dollars on that. Let's make it two thousand dollars.
Let's take a gander at these "nearly two hundred separate charges" shall we? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/3266050002/Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
So AGAIN that's 0 for Russian collusion.
"I never ask for dates"
OK thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Government moves slowly, it's a matter of time and perhaps HRC or Obama or other folks attempt to stop the charges of treason from coming to fruition, but hey what can I say I was right about Mueller having nothing and providing nothing, 0 evidence of collusion.
Where do you want to draw the line Kirk? McCabe? Comey? Lynch? Rice? Yates? Clapper? Brennan? Where do you want to admit defeat?
The very Dossier which got this entire shitstorm started (when John McCain delivered it to the Obama White House and then to the media despite it being unverified) is bogus. It was written in 2007 by Fusion GPS's Glenn Simpson.
https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...ier-russiagate
....funny how this all could have been avoided had Hillary not been a shrieking monotoned cunt and campaigned in Wisconsin or won Pennsylvania.....yeah shame that.
I'll answer the various replies later. Late for something.
Donald Trump appeared to dodge a legal bullet on Friday after special counsel Robert Mueller concluded his investigation and made clear that he would not be filing further charges. But any relief may be shortlived: Mr Trump’s presidency and business empire are still threatened by separate investigations being carried out by an array of state and federal prosecutors.
Many of the cases are based on evidence unearthed by Mr Mueller but which fell outside the narrow scope of his probe into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. They touch on various aspects of Mr Trump’s world — from his tax filings to his charitable foundation and expensive presidential inauguration. Depending on their progress, the legal peril unleashed by Mr Mueller’s 22-month probe could stalk Mr Trump for years to come, say legal experts.
“He’s a long way from out of the woods,” said Roland Riopelle, a New York defence lawyer and former prosecutor. “I think these investigations are more likely to cause legal trouble for him and his family than Mueller.” Jacob Frenkel, a partner at Dickinson Wright, said the most potentially damaging cases included the state mortgage fraud charges filed earlier this month by the Manhattan district attorney against Mr Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. Those charges, Mr Frenkel said, “demonstrate that the president, his associates and even his companies remain in active legal jeopardy”. A sitting president cannot be indicted on federal charges, according to Department of Justice guidelines.
Yet Mr Trump would be vulnerable after he left office, and his associates and business partners do not enjoy similar protection. Mueller finds no collusion between Trump and Russia Of greatest concern to them may be the US attorney for the southern district of New York. Based on a referral from Mr Mueller, the Manhattan-based office in August won a guilty plea from Michael Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, in what may have been prosecutors’ biggest victory in the affair.
Mr Cohen, who once boasted that he would “take a bullet” for his boss, pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations stemming from “hush money” payments he arranged for two women who claimed to have had affairs with then-candidate Trump. At his sentencing, Mr Cohen insisted he was acting on Mr Trump’s orders. He appeared to bolster that assertion during an appearance before Congress last month when he presented a copy of a cheque with Mr Trump’s signature. It was reimbursement, Mr Cohen claimed, for the illicit payments.
Mr Cohen has also opened a window into Mr Trump’s business dealings. As part of the southern district’s investigation, the FBI last year raided his offices, hauling away thousands of pages of documents and prompting Rudolph Giuliani, Mr Trump’s lawyer, to denounce the agents as “storm troopers”. Meanwhile, the southern district has also opened a probe of Mr Trump’s record-breaking $106m inauguration. It is believed to be focused, in particular, on whether foreign interests used donations — some channelled through Mr Cohen — as a way to gain access to the new administration.
“The greater peril to Mr Trump and his family is coming from the southern district,” said Mr Riopelle. Federal prosecutors in New York’s southern district are renowned for handling historic US cases, involving terrorism and financial fraud. It prides itself on its independence, and is less legally confined than Mr Mueller’s investigation.
“If there’s a case to be made there, you can be confident they’ll make it, whether it’s a Democrat or a Republican running the office,” said Mike Shepard, a partner at King & Spalding who once worked for Mr Mueller...................
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Yeah Kirk we can take all that to hart after a former CIA Director said there is mountains of evidence of collusion. Why don’t you give it up. Why don’t you ever comment in the brexit thread people have a lot of questions about the financial ascpects and ramifications you could sort it all out for everyone. You have been wrong here too many times. You just follow and parrot the media outlets that were wrong about everything so farQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Seriously what is your obsession with this topic that drives you not to comment on the English issues your country is facing
Be good to see when the actual full report is released rather than the flash card version. Seems to be wide bi partisan agreement on that so matter of time and must be done. I'd say a President, leader of the free world needs to be careful when tossing around treason in regards to a free press or political opponents. Trump has every right to peacock the yard and admonish call out specifics. I get the anger. But to cast wide nets of that vague inflammatory talk is irresponsible and beneath the office. You wanna see 'bad things evil things' perpetrated by 'bad people' keep throwing those verbal moltovs around and start the clock. Thats not us. That's not what we do. That talk is best left to despots and banana republics. This country needs to go forward, desperatly. I want policy, not school yard shit talkers just trying to one up each other in the business of gotcha.