Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI

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Originally Posted by means2184

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Originally Posted by pacdog

I would say Ali was at his best around his last fight before being banned, those three years in all likely hod would have been alis prime.Thats part of boxing just as lewis matured ali matured physically and mentally. I agree with you but I also disagree with you on lewis footwork. Its good for a big man thats all Ill say about that. No matter how good the monstter heavies are they are all somewhat goofy on their feet. To say lennox had footwork like ali is laughable ;D

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pacdog--did i mistake you ? best when he fought holmes & berbick? ..her was a shell? he wasnt even at his best when he fought foreman ..but most matured....i cant imagine how he could be seen as better towards the end of his carreee when he had parkinsons & took laot of hits ...compared to the day when nobody could even touch him and he was known as having the fastest hands ever? ???

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you 2 are retards

He meant when he got banned from boxing mongo .... Â !!

If your refeering to me as being a retard I sincerl hope not especially when you say lewis had footwork that rivaled ali ;D

i gotcha pacdog

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Originally Posted by pacdog

Tua is basically mike tyson of the mid 90's. Tyson in his prime had incerdible head movement and swarmed all over you, I dont care what people say i said it myself when he comes out of jail sure he will knock out some guys but he wont be what he was. Im sorry i know your gonna get p***ed but if people were saying the tyson that fought holy was shot how much more was he shot against lewis. Tyson looked horrible againast botha, again people who dont knwo boxing will say hell he knocked him out didnt he? yes but mike should have never had that kind of trouble with botha. You state that bruno stunned tyson yes, but again tyson was on the down then. Say what you want after rooney tyson skills noticeably declined. Watch some old clips and youll see in speed an defense mike is another galaxy in the early 80's. bruno was also not in his prime when lewis fought him and lewis struggled against him.

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Now just read that message its all excuses for Tyson, Â then a nasty little remark about Lewis struggled with Bruno. Â

spells to me that you just dont like him, Â end of. Â Â Â I was like that, Â but watch him man he will be missed to fuck, Â he already is that why people want to see him fight Klitszcho that much because out of any heavy's out there its Lewis who really has a chance of beating him AGAIN !!

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Originally Posted by pacdog

If your refeering to me as being a retard I sincerl hope not especially when you say lewis had footwork that rivaled ali ;D

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LOL ..... shit im getting double teamed by the mongo brothers !! ;D

rock the bottomline i think lewis is a great fighter just dont think he could have beaten ali thats all. peace :)

Hey you look the retard by your total lack of knowledge about boxing, Â or may be you do and you just cant come to grips that Lewis wupped every fucker going and would of bingoed Ali everywhere !!

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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW

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Originally Posted by pacdog

The problem is this for me, even with lewis reach i still see him getting outjabbed and simply outworked by a prime holy much like the 2nd fighter only increase holys speed by 40%. either way evander should have reitred after tyson he did what he had wanted to finally due beat the man who he missed from his era, lewis was the up and coming guy and belongs after anyway

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The up and coming guy, Â Â what the f*** are you on about, Â by 97 Lewis had been champion for 5 years lost and retained it ..... LMAO @ up and coming. Â

I think your getting up and coming mixed up with the fighter Holyfield and Tyson never wanted to face !!

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""by 97 Lewis had been champion for 5 years lost and retained it"" <----Wrong again Marshellow man !:dummespost: Â Lewis lost the WBC title in 94 ....WON it as it was vacantin 97.....in between that time he won the the lowly reguarded IBF titlef from tommy morrison ....
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display....001853<--lewis record

Yes lennox the plodding goofy bastard versus ali yeah lennox would have won, and I know nothing about boxing ::)

Can 1 person tell me why Holyfield and Tyson did not fight Lewis as early as 95 onwards ???

I do know Tyson paid Lewis 4 million not to fight him. Â

And Lewis was the only man to get under Holyfields skin in a fight, Â did you see his face when he went back to the corners in their fights. Â LMAO Â Â Â He could not figure out what the fuck was going on. Â Â

Rocky you need to check your knowledge if anyone does
1997 wasnt that long ago

I also noticed how holyfield was beginnig to tea off on  lewis in 2 that leiws threw holy over the ropes, it seems leenox was getting a little man

Oh well i was trying to be polite but I really thin lennox is a 240 pound p**** who fights like a girl. Oh and against tua he made like he beat the hell out of him he stuck the jab out like a girl for enitre rounds, sure he won but he did not try to take tua out beacuse he has a chin like woman. Lennox ducked ibeabuchi, the match was going to be made but lewis backed out

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Originally Posted by means2184

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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW

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Originally Posted by pacdog

The problem is this for me, even with lewis reach i still see him getting outjabbed and simply outworked by a prime holy much like the 2nd fighter only increase holys speed by 40%. either way evander should have reitred after tyson he did what he had wanted to finally due beat the man who he missed from his era, lewis was the up and coming guy and belongs after anyway

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The up and coming guy, Â Â what the f*** are you on about, Â by 97 Lewis had been champion for 5 years lost and retained it ..... LMAO @ up and coming. Â

I think your getting up and coming mixed up with the fighter Holyfield and Tyson never wanted to face !!

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""by 97 Lewis had been champion for 5 years lost and retained it"" <----Wrong again Marshellow man !:dummespost: Â Lewis lost the WBC title in 94 ....WON it as it was vacantin 97.....in between that time he won the the lowly reguarded IBF titlef from tommy morrison ....
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display....001853<--lewis record

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Lewis won the title after shitbag Bowe wouldn't fight him in 92 ... Â Â lost 94 ... Â regained a version of the title .... Â so what I said was right ... in five years he had lost and retained the title and you were calling him up and coming. Â

Like i said holyfield lost to bowe, so that set up rematch, lewis lost to oliver I suck mcall. That was everyones elses fault thats what took him so long. Holyfield had been champ thats why he got a rematch, lewis lossed when he was never champ thats why it took so long idiot stick