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He was only in about his 12th pro fight too wasn't he? It was just one of them things. I think if they fought 10 times Haye would win 9 of them he just got caught out. I mean could anyone ever see Ross Puritty beating Wlad Klitschko again because I couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeonardW12Hagler
I can't find the post now, but whoever mentioned Haye v. Arreola is mistaken. Haye doesn't deserve a bout with Arreola- the kid has proved himself and should be in line for a title shot.
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Originally Posted by Killface
So what has Arreola done then??
Talk about double standards!! So Haye who is the undisputed world ranked number one Cruiserweight in the world is not worthy of a shot against a untested prospect in the Heavyweight division?? Thats like saying Calzaghe isnt worth a match up against Tavoris Cloud.
Prior to the move upto 175 that is.
Arreola hasn't done anything special either BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Did you just compare HAYE to CALZAGHE....You compared David Haye who has defended his cruiserweight titles ONCE vs a virtually unknown regional fighter to JOE CALZAGHE....Joe one of the best 168 pound fighters of all time, a guy who defended his titles at 168 for YEARS. Yes oh I do see the similarity :beat:
How about it would be like this, it would be like Joe Greene moving up to fight Peter Quillin...2 youngsters who haven't proven anything special in the division.
David Haye hasn't done anything at heavyweight but Cris Arreola is an undefeated HEAVYWEIGHT so at least he's had A FIGHT at heavyweight, unlike Haye (sorry beating a dude Audley Harrison already beat isn't that great of an accomplishment)
I just wonder how lolenga mock, a career long super middleweight can floor and buzz Haye so badly...
...it dont bode well for the heavyweights punching him.
My David Haye career set gets sent tommorow. Cannot wait. I'm going to study it and see if he really would beat Wlad and it will be good watching him early in his career as well. Ain't seen any early Haye fights.
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Originally Posted by Clanger
The same way Anthony Logan floored Nigel Benn.(The fights on YouTube and you can find out when it happened by checking Boxrec). Benn went onto have a Great career.
Haye's had a suspect chin since the amateur days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clanger
He was fighting at 190 pounds (the old cruiser limiit) when the Mock fight happened.. if that's any excuse ;)
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Originally Posted by LyleArreola hasn't done anything special either BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Did you just compare HAYE to CALZAGHE....You compared David Haye who has defended his cruiserweight titles ONCE vs a virtually unknown regional fighter to JOE CALZAGHE....Joe one of the best 168 pound fighters of all time, a guy who defended his titles at 168 for YEARS. Yes oh I do see the similarity :beat:
How about it would be like this, it would be like Joe Greene moving up to fight Peter Quillin...2 youngsters who haven't proven anything special in the division.
David Haye hasn't done anything at heavyweight but Cris Arreola is an undefeated HEAVYWEIGHT so at least he's had A FIGHT at heavyweight, unlike Haye (sorry beating a dude Audley Harrison already beat isn't that great of an accomplishment)
I see your point but people go on as if Haye is nobody he was undisputed Cruiserweight champ number 1 in the world, moving up in weight exactly the same posistion as Calzaghe was moving up from being number one in the division below.
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Originally Posted by Killface
I see an interview with BJ Flores where he said Haye was sparring Arreola in Florida before the Enzo fight and Haye hurt Arreola that much he had to take the rest of the session off and refused to even spar Haye after that.
David Haye would without a doubt smash Arreola to pieces
Depends on Cris' chin....if he takes everything Haye throws at him then I favor Arreola to wear him out and knock him outQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Arreola wouldn't fight him anyway after Haye hurt him in sparring. Imagine what he wold do in a real fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleDepends on Cris' chin....if he takes everything Haye throws at him then I favor Arreola to wear him out and knock him outQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
he was badly cut against Frag, not hurtQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHe was only in about his 12th pro fight too wasn't he? It was just one of them things. I think if they fought 10 times Haye would win 9 of them he just got caught out. I mean could anyone ever see Ross Puritty beating Wlad Klitschko again because I couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeonardW12Hagler