Re: Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!
Joe is supposed to win this fight... It won't do anything for his legacy when he wins except that years down the road when people see Jones on Joes record they'll be like, "wow, he must have been good." But many won't know it was due to his drastic decline...
Re: Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!
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Put a time machine in Jones' corner to reverse his age 5+ years then beat him.
I got say I disagree with that Logic.. Jones is now 39 and Calzaghe is 36
So your saying Jones would have to be 2 years younger than Joe to beat him.. Yea Right!
No what I'm saying is many people feel Jones is a shot fighter and that this fight should have happened 10 years ago. Joe may be on the decline but is still very good. 'Shot' is not a word people would use to describe him. And the fact of it is, for Joe to get his due respect he would pretty much need to do something 'miraculous' like fighting a younger Roy Jones. That would satisfy a Calzaghe hater, of whom, I am not.
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well the fact is roy jones has been clean knocked out twice, been outpointed, regarded as a old shot fighter refuseing to retire so nothing cowardzaghe does will gain him respect from beating a way past his best jones
Re: Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!
Well Roy best win to make sure he ain't just a name on Calslappys record
Re: Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!
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Fight him 7 years ago.
already discussed the time machine my friend
Mine wasn't a time machine.
7 years ago they'd both have been younger.
I said fight him 7 years ago, not "just" fight the Jones of 7 years ago.
and wouldnt that require a time machine my friend?
Re: Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!
I think RJJ summed up the fight on 1st episode of 24/7 when he said i'f RRJ loses no one cares but if Calzaghe loses'
cant remember exact words, but i also felt RJJ was selling himself a little short with that comment
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I think RJJ summed up the fight on 1st episode of 24/7 when he said i'f RRJ loses no one cares but if Calzaghe loses'
cant remember exact words, but i also felt RJJ was selling himself a little short with that comment
By that he was saying Jones had no pressure on himself but Joe did have the pressure on himself to remain unbeaten in his last fight.
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yeah pressure defo on Joe, what with the traveling, the perfect record, in someone elses backyard (dependent on how many brits travel) dunno who ref is but he will no doubt be against calzaghe as well especially if its that prat cortez
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As long as the ref can count to 10 when Calzaghe is KO'd or wave a fight off when Calzaghe is taking to much punishment i don't care who it is;D
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My thoughts on it:
He can never gain respect from the haters.
The haters are just that, HATERS! They will hate him whatever he does.
1. He fights lacy, the haters are screaming how lacy will bash him out the ring, he batters him.
2. He fights kessler, the haters are relishing the thought of kessler outboxing and overwhelming calzaghe, calzaghe nullifies him and finishes it with ease.
3. He fights hopkins (the same hopkins who bashed the sh1t out of pavlik, tarver and wright), the haters say he will get ko'd by hopkins, he has hopkins gassing for air after the 8th round and wins the fight.
Even if you take away his other career wins, take away the fact he is the longest champion in the history of the sport still boxing today, take away the fact hes a 2 weight champ, and just look at those 3 things...NORMALLY its enough for any true boxing fan to say 'yeah hes a wicked fighter.'
But the fact remains, they dont.
The reason for this is very sad.
Instead of being 'reasonable' and 'balanced' people and saying 'i dont like calzaghes style because he is too unorthadox and i dont like his swinging punches, but you have to give him respect for what hes achieved' (any true boxing fan would say this)...they just hate him.
Im relishing the prospect of seeing the haters sitting at home cursing their tv screens when they see calzaghe coming into the ring against jones, the haters praying from calzaghe to lose...but once again, like very single time he has ever been doubted, he'll win!
And then as predicted, we will have the same threads all over again and again, the same people saying how they still dont rate calzaghe (as predicted), over and over again lol.
To be honest, as for the way he fights, id much rather see him go all out against jones and drop him.
Everyone has said that theres a prospect that 'calzaghe could look good enough to maybe have done well against jones at his peak'...
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA its as if even if calzaghe wins, it automatically still means that jones was better at his peak PMSL, JOKERS!
If calzaghe wins then it means that of course he couldve given a peak roy jones a run for his money.
If calzaghe easily wins then it means HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT A PEAK ROY JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
But...it all means nothing, calzaghe will fight jones and win, then he might have one more fight...possibly a rematch against hopkins and win again.
But even if calzaghe beats jones and hopkins (twice) then the haters will still say that they are better than him...WHAT BACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING IS THAT? LOL!
The guy cant do anything to gain respect from haters. AND THATS EXACTLY WHY I SUPPORT HIM!
Because i love to see the same people get silenced time and time again, then come up with more excuses and arguments lol.
When you look at the facts they are plain and simple:
If calzaghe beats jones then the guy is 48,0,0 anyone who cant respect that is a bit of a muppet really arent they?
Hes beaten hopkins (THE SAME OLD HOPKINS WHO HAS HAD HIS BEST CAREER WINS EVER AT THIS AGE, BASHING UP WRIGHT, TARVER AND PAVLIK), eubank, lacy, reid and kessler...soon to be jones.
Undefeated champ for over 11 years.
2 weight champ.
People will keep hating him, but the bottom line is that he will go down in history as a legend, esspecially after he bashes roy jones, we will then know exactly WHY ROY JONES AVOIDED HIM!
Reallky good point they mate.I've already made my point about Calzaghe as a great fighters loads of times on here.Of course theirs haters of Calzaghe,after all its a free world to make your own judgement on things,but i totally agree with you.What does my head in is that people say that Calkzaghe has fought loads of bums and that he has never been tested!!:-XThat just makes me laugh sooo much when they say crap like that.How can they say that,Eubank,Brewer,lacy,Kessler,Hopkins are bums?I like Calzaghe a lot.He has the best boxing brain in the game!
I know what will turn these Haters(at least half of them)of Calzaghe into fans of his,,,is when he fights Froch after Froch beats Pascal that is!