Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.
I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.
Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.
I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.
With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.
In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
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This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.
I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.
Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.
I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.
With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.
In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.
Of course you are :cool:
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
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fanjohn
This is my first post and I'm not sure if I would be welcome here. Anyway here it is.
I think this will boil down to who has the better preparation/training and having the most feasible strategy/gameplan.
Pacquiao might be a little distracted with his extra curricular activities during training but he seems to handle things like this very well. I think PAC has the better sparring sessions working with bigger and powerful sparring partners. Cotto prepared for this fight in a longer duration (12 weeks) but it seems he doesn't have the best possible sparring sessions. He's sparring with smaller men (jr. welters) maybe thinking that PAC is a "smaller" opponent.
I think strategy and gameplan also favors Pacquiao. With a veteran coach/trainer on his side, PAC enjoys the advantage of having an excellent strategy/gameplan going to the fight. PAC is a 54 fights veteran and a 16 years pro. He has seen it all already while Cotto is a 35 fights veteran and 8 years pro. Cotto's trainer, Joe Santiago might be on his side for already a long time but he still lacks the experience of calling the shots on his own. Cotto will mostly do what he wants to do and not depend on his present trainer/corner.
With that said, I'm going with Roach's prediction on this one. An early KO or a late (9th/10th) round stoppage. PAC and Roach has a strategy to end the fight quickly in the early rounds by exploiting Cotto's habits or "mistakes" and using PAC's much superior speed. If that won't come then PAC will be more patient and will frustrate and break down Cotto slowly until the stoppage in the late rounds.
In almost every PAC fight, my predictions were PAC via TKO win due to cuts. It could happen on this fight.
Of course you are :cool:
Thanks, I'm hoping for that.
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
Great to see the poll is even. Its what boxing needs.
Im saying Cotto wins on points but would rule out a dodgy decision being given to Pac. That said If Cotto is clear enough in timing Pac and making him pay he should take it outta the judges hands
Cotto on points
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
I went with PAcquiao but honestly, I wouldn't bet money on that, I did based more on the fact that I don't believe in Joe Santiago to prepare Cotto conveniently for this fight and based on the idea that the weight lost will affect him a bit but this is kind of a wild assumption from me.
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
Well, I dont give a shiit if anyone moans about this but fuuck me, how can Manny come up such a large percentage of his pro debut weight and look bigger than Cotto?
Hes got sinews ripping out all over the place, whereas you can see with Cotto that hes moved up a weight, his body looks far more comfortable for him, Pac doesnt look drained like Hatton did at light welter on the scales but hes not got an ounce to spare!!
He must be doing or taking something extra, it might well be why he has long sessions away in the philipines, I just dont see and have never known a fighter to come through so many weights in such good shape and carry his speed and power up with him, in time im sure something will surface, I mean, a couple of years ago, whod have believed that Margarito was only dominant due to hardened wraps?
Iv got no idea how this ends, although I would say that Cotto loses, ive never been that sold on him, hes too One paced.
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
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He must be doing or taking something extra, it might well be why he has long sessions away in the philipines,
when he is here he makes movies, shoots tons of commercials. he has a tv series here too, he also host a tv show. meets up with politicians cause he will run for congress next year. this things never stops for pac. he doesnt rest at all. i literally see him on tv everyday unlike other boxers that you ll only see b4 during and after a fight.
one more thing cotto is bigger than pac. on the weigh in pics cotto is barefoot and pac is wearing rubber elevator shoes. lol
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
Took a while for me to decide whos goin to win. I mean my heart is with Cotto but i couldnt make up my mind until today an i say Cotto wins by stoppage on the 8th.
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
My official prediction Miguel Cotto by TKO in round 7
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Took a while for me to decide whos goin to win. I mean my heart is with Cotto but i couldnt make up my mind until today an i say Cotto wins by stoppage on the 8th.
I pick mine about 1 1/2 year ago when Pac was still at SFW.
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Re: Lets say Pacman vs Cotto 2009
If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.
Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.
Now we knew how strong Pac is at 140-142, For this fight Pac will be at the heaviest at 145. That means extra power. Roach already revealed what M1P1 virus means, Pac's Middleweight Power. I see another Pac Domination in action Pack fight. Pac by rd 8 TKO.
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Took a while for me to decide whos goin to win. I mean my heart is with Cotto but i couldnt make up my mind until today an i say Cotto wins by stoppage on the 8th.
I pick mine about 1 1/2 year ago when Pac was still at SFW.
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Re: Lets say Pacman vs Cotto 2009
If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.
Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.
Now we knew how strong Pac is at 140-142, For this fight Pac will be at the heaviest at 145. That means extra power. Roach already revealed what M1P1 virus means, Pac's Middleweight Power. I see another Pac Domination in action Pack fight. Pac by rd 8 TKO.
So why did u quote me? r you showin off? cuz i dnt take kindly to that. :mad:
Re: Cotto-Pac - Who wins? Fact.
Voted Pac Man, although all logic says a good big man should beat the smaller guy, I thought Cotto looked a little drained at the weigh in, cheeks slightly hollow, Manny on the other hand looked a picture of good health with plenty in the tank for the later rounds, which I am sure this fight will go, Manny to win a wide ud for me.
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Took a while for me to decide whos goin to win. I mean my heart is with Cotto but i couldnt make up my mind until today an i say Cotto wins by stoppage on the 8th.
I pick mine about 1 1/2 year ago when Pac was still at SFW.
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Re: Lets say Pacman vs Cotto 2009
If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.
Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.
Now we knew how strong Pac is at 140-142, For this fight Pac will be at the heaviest at 145. That means extra power. Roach already revealed what M1P1 virus means, Pac's Middleweight Power. I see another Pac Domination in action Pack fight. Pac by rd 8 TKO.
So why did u quote me? r you showin off? cuz i dnt take kindly to that. :mad:
Because you are the last one on the thread. I'm always showing off anyway!!!
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I pick mine about 1 1/2 year ago when Pac was still at SFW.
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Re: Lets say Pacman vs Cotto 2009
If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.
Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.
Now we knew how strong Pac is at 140-142, For this fight Pac will be at the heaviest at 145. That means extra power. Roach already revealed what M1P1 virus means, Pac's Middleweight Power. I see another Pac Domination in action Pack fight. Pac by rd 8 TKO.
So why did u quote me? r you showin off? cuz i dnt take kindly to that. :mad:
Because you are the last one on the thread.
I'm always showing off anyway!!!
And it works so well for you, as evidenced by your sterling reputation around here :rolleyes:.
