Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.
He talks endless shit, was given MULTIPLE opportunities to back it up and failed to do so. He has now been called out by THE Heavyweight Champion of the World Wladimir Klitschko and this flimsy response from his trainer/manager is all we get.....well that and his trainer saying that "We're (trainer and his charge) not sure who the real champion is and maybe we need to find that out before we fight Wlad or Vitali"
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.
As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.
On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...
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Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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Fenster
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Lyle
No Fenster the people complaining about Wlad are the ones "complaining about a fighter not entertaining you"
Wlad will fight by the end of this summer probably vs Povetkin although Sam Peter has an outside shot. The yellow pride of England will probably fight the winner of Chagaev-Meehan a fight he'll probably lose.
At least it will make you happy Lyle.
Imagine the horror you would suffer if Haye landed that right hand on Wlad's china chin.
Trust me, it will happen soon enough.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
Let him bask in his title a little bit, before he gets his face broken by one of the Klitschko bros.;D
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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killersheep
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AdamGB
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killersheep
Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.
Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.
I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant
Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.
HBO were paying the promotion a license feee, they weren't paying the boxers individually. And the way the fight contract worked was that Junior got almost everything other than the Setanta money for the fight and then about 10 000 options on Haye afterwards. Haye probably would have made enough from the non-Setanta revenue streams to cover his expenses but would have been basically fighting for free.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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JazMerkin
This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.
As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.
On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...
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It'll happen. Junior will eventually agree to 50/50 because he's desperate to get his sewn-on hands on the Sky PPV loot. Haye will be his biggest payday.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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JazMerkin
This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.
As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.
On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...
* Saddo/Mods - Anything that might cause the site some trouble, just edit out ;)
I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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Hornfinger
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Lyle
Never once did I say Kirk Johnson was a credible heavyweight force! I merely commented on his return to boxing and given the lack of depth and consistency of the heavyweight division (outside of The Klitschkos) I merely stated that an in shape Kirk Johnson would prove to be an interesting matchup for some contenders and journeymen, I never even said Johnson would win. So Hornfinger just give it a rest
You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol
Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
;D
Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.
What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?
Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.
The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.
I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.
Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.
Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.
I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.
The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British! lol
Wasnt that the response he was giving people that criticize Haye?:vd:
;D
Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.
What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?
Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.
The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.
I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.
Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.
Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.
I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.
The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:
I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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smashup
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.
As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.
On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...
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I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)
I read on this forum sometime after the Valuev fight that Booth/ Haye wanted Roach to get involved ???
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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BIG H
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Violent Demise
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Hornfinger
Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.
What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?
Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.
The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.
I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.
Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.
Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.
I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.
The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:
I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight
I don't understand why the HAYTERS find this so hard to understand. It won't happen this time around with the backing of SKY anyway.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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Jimboogie
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Originally Posted by
smashup
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
This is great, for once I actually have some inside info on why they might (and I stress might) have come out with this.
As I mentioned in another thread, I met Steve Bunce last week and among other things he mentioned that Freddie Roach's team had called David Haye and effectively said something along the lines of 'well Adam, you've done a nice job with him, we'll take it from here'. Obviously Booth told them to fuck off. Anyway, Booth felt that this had been partly instigated by this journalist Davies, who has very close ties with Roach (he apparently basically acts as his UK mouthpiece). So he was pretty pissed off at both of them and it's apparently not a new thing with how he feels about Davies/Roach and them trying to take Haye away from him.
On the basis of that I'll let it go, but I like everyone else would be disgusted if Haye doesn't actually fight one of the brothers, especially with that shit he came out with about Mayweather/Pacquiao being a fight that needs to happen for the sake of the sport. Those in glass houses etc...
* Saddo/Mods - Anything that might cause the site some trouble, just edit out ;)
I heard something about Roach sniffing round him last year as it goes... ;)
I read on this forum sometime after the Valuev fight that Booth/ Haye wanted Roach to get involved ???
Well before Khans last fight Roach, Haye and Khan were all having a nice chat and then Roach realised the cameras were on them and and ended the coversation quickly. Haye was showing them his broken hand when Roach realised the cameras were on.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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skel1983
Booth: “We are not considering anything or any opponents at the moment. None whatsoever. We want to let everything settle, the last year was quite busy with negotiations for four world title fights, two of which have taken place, and David is now going to take a well-earned rest.
Jesus christ, the guy has fought 4 fights in two and half years but he needs rest?? I thought he wants out by the time he is 31?
Getting very boring this, needs to sort out a fight with the Klits no doubt they are waiting for them both to be tied up then they will come out with the Klits didn't want any of David Haye, fuck your rest sort the fight out for late summer/Autumn then have your fucking rest!!!!
I think where in the age of modern boxers, where they think they have fought a lot if they fight more than twice a year. In the old days Sugar Ray Robinson fought 19 times in one year in 1950...19 times in one year !!!!
Sugar Ray Robinson - Boxer
And the fights were a lot harder in them days than they are now.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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BIG H
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
Well no one has come up with any real explination to dislike him.
What's worse, me saying 'You're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British!' Or you fuckers actually hating on him because you're just jealous of David Haye because he's good looking and British?
Truth hurt gentleman? I think so.
The klits are top of the pile, haye has done more than any of the fat bums in the division to earn a shot. Will he beats the klits who knows, I don't. But I will back him when he does fight them.
I am absolutely amazed that there are people on here that claim to be knowledgeable boxing fans yet seem completely oblivious to the notion of spin.
Any fan of boxing knows the negotiations to huge fights never go smoothly. fighters winding each other up and getting pissed off with each other is part and parcel of the sport and has been going on for years.
Adam Booth giving the whole 'Haye needs a break' is just more spin. Does everyone on this site believe everything they read? It's more mind games, nothing more nothing less. I find it funny, almost as funny as lyle touting kirk johnson.
I personally think Haye vs klit will be announced before the end of next month.
The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:
I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight
No one is ducking anyone. Wlad wants haye haye wants wlad. simple.
You can't say that an injury means that a fighter is ducking someone. I wouldn't go into any kind of pro contest with an injury. George Foreman sustained a cut before the rumble in the jungle and the fight was postponed. That was a genuine injury. George wasn't going to fight injured and he was the vast favourite to win. Was there an outcry that he was trying to duck ali?
It's all down to negotiation, spin, media/fan manipulation and mind games now. The fight will happen, it's about building anticipation. The whole 'will they, won't they?' thing is a big part of that.
Make the fans desperate to see the fight and then they're happier to part with their money and it will also attract bigger numbers.
It happens in all big fights.
Re: " David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"
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rjj tszyu
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BIG H
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Violent Demise
The Haye-Wlad fight was all set. And 2 weeks before it happens the hand injury comes up. Scratch that. Back injury. And groupies got the nerve to claim Wlad is ducking Haye. :vd:
I'm not defending Haye and I definitely don't think Wlad is ducking him, but Haye clearly pulled out of the fight becuase the TV company with rights to the fight was about to go bankrupt and he wouldn't have got paid. He had to use an injury as an excuse. It turned out to be a wise decision becuase Setanta did go bust before the date of the fight
I don't understand why the HAYTERS find this so hard to understand. It won't happen this time around with the backing of SKY anyway.
The Vitali fight was backed by SKY.
