he was also highly trained in wing chun by ip man himself i doubt pacman would last 60 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
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he was also highly trained in wing chun by ip man himself i doubt pacman would last 60 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Bruce would kill him. Manny has much better hands, Bruce has much better everything else. Bruce trained grappling and submissions as well - he was a pioneer of MMA in a lot of ways.
One of the biggest misconceptions people have about Bruce Lee is that he was just another action star, like Jackie Chan or Jet Li. Another guy who had incredible athleticism, but was only tough in front of a camera.
Bruce was a martial artist who saw film as a way to spread his philosophies of fighting. Bruce Lee had a lot of fighting experience in tournements/challenge matches, on the street, and in sparring. And if he wasn't fighting, he was training. And if he wasn't training, he was think about fighting.
His ideas were really ground breaking. In a time where idiots where squabbling about which style was the best (karate, kung fu, boxing, judo, ect), he said "no, you're all stupid. It's about the individual. You should train EVERYTHING and be well rounded. Be adaptable like water, take the techniques that work and use them, if it doesn't work, forget it."
Which was genius, because 30 years after his death his theories were proven by the evolution of MMA, where to survive you had to be able to strike, wrestle, and grapple.
If you're a fight fan, you have to give it up to Bruce.
He also did some boxing training and fencing training I would think lees hand speed would also be faster than pacmans
I woudln't go that far hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3he was also highly trained in wing chun by ip man himself i doubt pacman would last 60 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Calzaghe was into that wing chun shit too..
What's next.. van damme knocks out Kovalev with his super splits
Manny couldn't beat Steven Seagal right now............if you ask Seagal that is. Lol
Full contact fighting is the only proven martial art (boxing kickboxing mma grappling). As Bruce Lee said "Boards don't hit back".
Manny Paq is one of the greatest professional boxers in a h2h sense for his size that ever lived.
Anybody who thinks Bruce Lee's collection of ninja turtle video's (or whatever the cartoon of his day was called) can compete with that is a fucking idiot! LOL
So he had streetfights and sparring right? Big deal! There are millions of guys that are amateur boxers and beat people up all the time but they are not world ranked professional fighters! And never would be!
Lee's only shot is a swift kick in the nuts as Manny is moving in for the kill!
Those so called " streetfights" he got into werent even well documented and its not like he fought in the 30s or 40s.. he was active in the 70s and beibg as famous as he was, its hard to believe nobody was able to get footages of him in action... and those fake 1 inch punch crap he did in the dojos dont count..Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Bunch of fairtales if u ask me..
I really respect his philosophies though. He was clearly ahead of his time..
Yeah I'm extremely sceptical about those too. I think the stories are vastly exaggerated for fame and legitimacy purposes. As for the 1-inch punch business, don't get me started! haha
I really don't dislike Bruce Lee, I'm actually a fan like everyone else. I've been to his and his sons grave site to visit. My only problem is what his popularity brought. TMA schools.
My biggest problem is TMA, traditional martial art or "artist". IMO these guys are either delusional or frauds. The money they make teaching nonsense is ridiculous and yes I once upon a time spend thousands as a youth. The other problem is the MOvies and gullible morons. Growing up movies and video games made boxers and wrestlers look like just brainless brutes. While you got TMAs like kung fu and karate looking like superior athletes with unlimited amount of stamina and fighting I.Q.
I'm pretty passionate about talking about this shit so I'm trying not to write a book here but nobody trains harder than a professional boxer. Boxers and wrestlers are the only two who know what its like to have to make weight for a fight. That alone is a battle not suited for 70% of men let alone the real combat they prepare for.
I'm always going to shutdown any tma mofo when they talk about beating a boxer or mma. I'm dedicate to this shit and most of the time none of these TMA guys are even willing to put it to the actual physical test. They just want to continue living a fucking lie. They not fighters they glorified dancers.
They always use the argument about boxing or mma or wrestling is a sport but fail to realize applying rules to anything makes it harder to win. They say kung fu is too dangerous and can kill people. Never heard of a murder cause by kung fu or TMA but I've heard of plenty and seen deaths in boxing. Man I can go on and on about this shit. I know its coming but I can't wait for the day that there are no more of these fraudulent scams. MMA is the proving ground for all martial art and for those who are being proven false are of course dissing MMA.
Growing up with 5 brothers all we did was fight and watch fights. We love TMA growing up but when you are actually trying to win fights in real fights against a fully resisting opponent you find out what works and what don't work. Personally what I've found out is boxing, muay thai, wrestling and ju jitsu works. The four main ingredient of a good MMA fighter. Those fancy animal forms are nonsense, just like any other Chinese made product. Fucking scam artist and I can't stand the fact that there are plenty of nerds who believe this enough to pay thousands a year for lessons they are told not to use. Yea you are a walking deadly weapon cause you know kung fu.
Alright I need to stop now this is pointless anyway, just wanted to vent that out and hopefully somebody who disagree reads it but some day realize what I'm saying here holds truth from a real fight fan. I'm not a fan of stunts and choreograph fighting. I'm a fan of real time fighting with risk and real brave and those who train hard to prove real forms of fighting. Fuck the frauds, if I could I'd go to every TMA school and knockout there "masters"! I see them as scam artist and nothing more.
What a joke these Pac huggers. Who can suck Arums dick better Pac or Linda Lovelace?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
So new thread is JMM could put Bruce Lee to sleepQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaThose so called " streetfights" he got into werent even well documented and its not like he fought in the 30s or 40s.. he was active in the 70s and beibg as famous as he was, its hard to believe nobody was able to get footages of him in action... and those fake 1 inch punch crap he did in the dojos dont count..Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Bunch of fairtales if u ask me..
I really respect his philosophies though. He was clearly ahead of his time..
No need for a thread. I think it's a pretty reasonably safe call that JMM could sleep Lee for awhile.