Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
Yes I am dealing in fact because i'm accepting the official verdict (regardless of whether or not I agree with it)
"Deserving" the lineage is utterly irrelevant. You either win or lose. Simple as that. It doesn't matter that "most" people think Briggs lost to Foreman. We'd be here till the dawn of time discussing "robberies" and bad decisions.
Ottke is undefeated. That's a fact. If you think he lost certain fights that's your "opinion." It wont change the record books. Just as history will never change the fact Lennox Lewis took the lineage from Shannon Briggs.
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Yes I am dealing in fact because i'm accepting the official verdict
OJ simpson is innocent!
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You either win or lose. Simple as that. It doesn't matter that "most" people think Briggs lost to Foreman. We'd be here till the dawn of time discussing "robberies" and bad decisions.
Who won?
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Ottke is undefeated. That's a fact. If you think he lost certain fights that's your "opinion." It wont change the record books. Just as history will never change the fact Lennox Lewis took the lineage from Shannon Briggs.
I think his claim is pretty weak.. Foreman hadn't done anything meaningful in years, had long been stripped and the decision was razor thin... Briggs - by virtue of a bogus decision - WAS a lineal champ. The fight wasn't even for a belt either! U accept officialdom if u want though.
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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THE PHILOSOPHER
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Yes I am dealing in fact because i'm accepting the official verdict
OJ simpson is innocent!
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You either win or lose. Simple as that. It doesn't matter that "most" people think Briggs lost to Foreman. We'd be here till the dawn of time discussing "robberies" and bad decisions.
Who won?
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Ottke is undefeated. That's a fact. If you think he lost certain fights that's your "opinion." It wont change the record books. Just as history will never change the fact Lennox Lewis took the lineage from Shannon Briggs.
I think his claim is pretty weak.. Foreman hadn't done anything meaningful in years, had long been stripped and the decision was razor thin.. Not sure that I'd personally give that claim to him. Briggs - by virtue of a bogus decision - WAS a lineal champ. U accept officialdom if u want though.
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Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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It doesn't matter, Shannon Briggs wasn't the lineal champion because "people" "thought" that Foreman won their fight so I'm never wrong.....NEVER WRONG.......NEVER
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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It doesn't matter, Shannon Briggs wasn't the lineal champion because "people" "thought" that Foreman won their fight so I'm never wrong.....NEVER WRONG.......NEVER
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Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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It doesn't matter, Shannon Briggs wasn't the lineal champion because "people" "thought" that Foreman won their fight so I'm never wrong.....NEVER WRONG.......NEVER
See Philosopher? That's the way it's done. You include the person's name within your quote...... so other people can see who posted the original post, and then proceed to post a reply that has nothing to do with what you just posted.
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Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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THE PHILOSOPHER
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Yes I am dealing in fact because i'm accepting the official verdict
OJ simpson is innocent!
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You either win or lose. Simple as that. It doesn't matter that "most" people think Briggs lost to Foreman. We'd be here till the dawn of time discussing "robberies" and bad decisions.
Who won?
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Ottke is undefeated. That's a fact. If you think he lost certain fights that's your "opinion." It wont change the record books. Just as history will never change the fact Lennox Lewis took the lineage from Shannon Briggs.
I think his claim is pretty weak.. Foreman hadn't done anything meaningful in years, had long been stripped and the decision was razor thin... Briggs - by virtue of a bogus decision - WAS a lineal champ. The fight wasn't even for a belt either! U accept officialdom if u want though.
A jury found OJ Simpson NOT guilty in a criminal court. That's a fact. My personal opinion that he was guilty still doesn't change that fact.
You don't need a belt for lineage. That's the beauty of it. You just need a champion.
Foreman upset Moorer.
Moorer upset Holyfield.
Holyfield upset Bowe.
Douglas upset Tyson.
Spinks upset Holmes.
Etc etc etc
The title passes hands without discrimination. There's no politics. No alphabet nonsense. The fighter purely gets rewarded for beating the champ.
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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Fenster
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THE PHILOSOPHER
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Yes I am dealing in fact because i'm accepting the official verdict
OJ simpson is innocent!
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You either win or lose. Simple as that. It doesn't matter that "most" people think Briggs lost to Foreman. We'd be here till the dawn of time discussing "robberies" and bad decisions.
Who won?
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Ottke is undefeated. That's a fact. If you think he lost certain fights that's your "opinion." It wont change the record books. Just as history will never change the fact Lennox Lewis took the lineage from Shannon Briggs.
I think his claim is pretty weak.. Foreman hadn't done anything meaningful in years, had long been stripped and the decision was razor thin... Briggs - by virtue of a bogus decision - WAS a lineal champ. The fight wasn't even for a belt either! U accept officialdom if u want though.
A jury found OJ Simpson NOT guilty in a criminal court. That's a fact. My personal opinion that he was guilty still doesn't change that fact.
You don't need a belt for lineage. That's the beauty of it. You just need a champion.
Foreman upset Moorer.
Moorer upset Holyfield.
Holyfield upset Bowe.
Douglas upset Tyson.
Spinks upset Holmes.
Etc etc etc
The title passes hands without discrimination. There's no politics. No alphabet nonsense. The fighter purely gets rewarded for beating the champ.
Yes but PROVE Shannon Briggs was the lineal champion that's all I'm asking.
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Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
Lyle ;D
(you will never see me ban anyone, stop asking, that stuff is for Saddo.. oh and missy)
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
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Lyle ;D
(you will never see me ban anyone, stop asking, that stuff is for Saddo.. oh and missy)
You weigh the least don't you? That's why you are the worst mod
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Greenbeanz
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El Kabong
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Fenster
Lyle ;D
(you will never see me ban anyone, stop asking, that stuff is for Saddo.. oh and missy)
You weigh the least don't you? That's why you are the worst mod
I would not be so sure alcohol can pile on the pounds and walking to the off licence and bookies is not even necessary any more due to the internet, so thats the daily exercise out the window.
I get plenty of daily exercise by playing darts whilst watching the racing. Fact.
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
In fact that whole short period of lineage was pretty tenuos IMO. Briggs probably lot to GF. GF definitely lost to Schultz. And even in the Moorer v Schultz SD a case can be made for a DRAW! But as u say fact is fact and i will concede to that point. However brigg's was garbage and i personally did not consider him 'The Man'.
Do u know what OJ said after the trial was over? Can i have my glove back now please. ;)
P.s El Kabong. It's not my fault u inadvertantly admitted VK is the 2nd hardest puncher of all time on my 'WK's resume' thread. Trolling my post's will not compensate for this. And fenster is not fat. He is big boned. U however just have a big BONER for me. LOL.
Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....
Oh YOU didn't consider Briggs "THE MAN"....well by all means let's rewrite history then.
Is George Foreman an All-Time Great power puncher "yes" or "no"? I don't require any explinations or caveats or anything else just a simple "Yes" or a "No".
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Is George Foreman an All-Time Great power puncher "yes" or "no"? I don't require any explinations or caveats or anything else just a simple "Yes" or a "No".
Yes.
Quid Pro Quo. Is Vitali Klitschko the 2nd hardest puncher of all time?
