In a historial look at the boxrec record it is. But he beat up an invalid. He'll still lose to Mayweather again, even Alvarez when he eventually fights him. Watch him call Mayweather out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
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In a historial look at the boxrec record it is. But he beat up an invalid. He'll still lose to Mayweather again, even Alvarez when he eventually fights him. Watch him call Mayweather out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
No disrespect to cotto byt ggg by death if that ever happensQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
You could see from the off that Martinez had little movement and that he had no way fight in his usual style. In fact, I don't think Martinez should have been fighting seeing how weak his movement was. His style is all about being unorthodox, with movement, and landing hard shots with the power from the legs. I don't think I saw a power shot land. I don't give Cotto much credit for that, he picked his way to a title, and most would look good against this 39 year old Martinez.
Step up Cotto and beat a fighter in his prime for ooh maybe the first time in half a decade. I feel sorry for Martinez, but he shouldn't have fought. He must have known his condition, he is smart. Little credit for that.
He certainly could have done better without it..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMartinez has never recovered from the 12th round of the Chavez fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I counted 5 times where he looked like he might fall without getting hit. Boxnation is talking like there is no doubt he'll retire before Sergio even spoke. Seems rude but I can't disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMartinez has never recovered from the 12th round of the Chavez fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Fighter knows himself beyond a corner or yesmen, for sure. Boxers fight for money and prize fighting. But the way he has conducted himself in and out of the ring...fighting when hit, hurt and down on numerous occasions...I cannot buy at all he cashed out and doubted himself. No need for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI think that's a stretch, he doesn't strike the sort to simply come in for payday. His pride and ego have gotten him in trouble prior and its taken the post injury to make him see the extent of it. But he sure as shat didn't just come in for a pension and excepting hes at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe's making money. Him and his people knew his knees weren't up to it coming into this fight but this is a big pension payday for him. You can't blame him. He hasn't got the movement he once had and is getting wobbled by punches he wouldn't have taken pre injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
All over.
You've forgotten more about boxing that I know but they must have known his mobility wasn't what it was before. Maybe once he'd signed the contract he didn't want to back out in case he'd have to pay previous earned money out or he thought it'd be alright on the night.
He's a long time retired though. The payday must have played into the calculations.
Mayweather-Cotto on deck.
based on what?Quote:
Originally Posted by arminNo disrespect to cotto byt ggg by death if that ever happensQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
GG was getting walked into right hands by the slow and basic Adama.
Cotto is no shot to hell Kassim Ouma.
Cotto worked on lovely sight! Video
He probably tallked himself into beliving he still could do it I agree I don't think he did it purely for part he seems to, proudQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFighter knows himself beyond a corner or yesmen, for sure. Boxers fight for money and prize fighting. But the way he has conducted himself in and out of the ring...fighting when hit, hurt and down on numerous occasions...I cannot buy at all he cashed out and doubted himself. No need for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI think that's a stretch, he doesn't strike the sort to simply come in for payday. His pride and ego have gotten him in trouble prior and its taken the post injury to make him see the extent of it. But he sure as shat didn't just come in for a pension and excepting hes at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe's making money. Him and his people knew his knees weren't up to it coming into this fight but this is a big pension payday for him. You can't blame him. He hasn't got the movement he once had and is getting wobbled by punches he wouldn't have taken pre injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
All over.
You've forgotten more about boxing that I know but they must have known his mobility wasn't what it was before. Maybe once he'd signed the contract he didn't want to back out in case he'd have to pay previous earned money out or he thought it'd be alright on the night.
He's a long time retired though. The payday must have played into the calculations.
Mayweather-Cotto on deck.
Martinez took all the guess work out of what happened by explaining he never recovered from that first hard shot. Of course the weakest part of his body his knee show up, I though it was a good decision for Martinez' corner to throw in the towel.
Just wish he had gone out at the hands of a true middle? So I guess citto is.ring mw champ now
Why not? He's not made of money. He's a long time retired. He wouldn't be the first guy to cash in on his name would he? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFighter knows himself beyond a corner or yesmen, for sure. Boxers fight for money and prize fighting. But the way he has conducted himself in and out of the ring...fighting when hit, hurt and down on numerous occasions...I cannot buy at all he cashed out and doubted himself. No need for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI think that's a stretch, he doesn't strike the sort to simply come in for payday. His pride and ego have gotten him in trouble prior and its taken the post injury to make him see the extent of it. But he sure as shat didn't just come in for a pension and excepting hes at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe's making money. Him and his people knew his knees weren't up to it coming into this fight but this is a big pension payday for him. You can't blame him. He hasn't got the movement he once had and is getting wobbled by punches he wouldn't have taken pre injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
All over.
You've forgotten more about boxing that I know but they must have known his mobility wasn't what it was before. Maybe once he'd signed the contract he didn't want to back out in case he'd have to pay previous earned money out or he thought it'd be alright on the night.
He's a long time retired though. The payday must have played into the calculations.
Mayweather-Cotto on deck.
A man who has cashed out mentally does not stand and slug repeatedly and get off the canvas multiple times. Listen to me...sounding like I know when a fighter gives up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingWhy not? He's not made of money. He's a long time retired. He wouldn't be the first guy to cash in on his name would he? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFighter knows himself beyond a corner or yesmen, for sure. Boxers fight for money and prize fighting. But the way he has conducted himself in and out of the ring...fighting when hit, hurt and down on numerous occasions...I cannot buy at all he cashed out and doubted himself. No need for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI think that's a stretch, he doesn't strike the sort to simply come in for payday. His pride and ego have gotten him in trouble prior and its taken the post injury to make him see the extent of it. But he sure as shat didn't just come in for a pension and excepting hes at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe's making money. Him and his people knew his knees weren't up to it coming into this fight but this is a big pension payday for him. You can't blame him. He hasn't got the movement he once had and is getting wobbled by punches he wouldn't have taken pre injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
All over.
You've forgotten more about boxing that I know but they must have known his mobility wasn't what it was before. Maybe once he'd signed the contract he didn't want to back out in case he'd have to pay previous earned money out or he thought it'd be alright on the night.
He's a long time retired though. The payday must have played into the calculations.
Mayweather-Cotto on deck.
Props to Inuit, he had confidence in a great fighter. I was not so clever
That first round was just horrible to watch. It really wasn't so much that Cotto was being a monster, it was simply that Martinez had no coordination and kept falling down. You saw from the first 30 seconds the condition he was in. It was a very cynical ploy on the part of the Cotto team and I now think it rather despicable. However, Martinez signed to fight and being an intelligent man, should have known better. Cotto is a good fighter and you don't play games signing up to fight good fighters when you are effectively shot.
Reading through this thread with comments about a career defining fight and masterclass. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You don't have a career defining fight against a man who is half disabled. The obvious fact of disability is a slight detraction to such claims. I felt like I was watching a bit of a freakshow during that first round and it was unpleasant seeing it go on and for some to claim it has meaning. Please.