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I think its more reflective of the forum, and you have to factor in at least a couple Non-UK residents voting UKIP and distorting the results. UKIP will get votes because they appeal to many people who feel disenfranchised or unrepresented. The labour party no longer represents the working class, and then there are those for whom unbelievably Tories are no longer right wing enough. The crazy thing is both groups will probably vote for Farrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Yup, all because he likes a pint and a smoke. And blaming foreigners is the easiest political line to spin since the bloody Anglo-Saxons arrived and took over this wonderful Celtic country. Send em all back to Anglesey I say!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI think its more reflective of the forum, and you have to factor in at least a couple Non-UK residents voting UKIP and distorting the results. UKIP will get votes because they appeal to many people who feel disenfranchised or unrepresented. The labour party no longer represents the working class, and then there are those for whom unbelievably Tories are no longer right wing enough. The crazy thing is both groups will probably vote for Farrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Miliband And Cameron Prepare For Live Showdown
David Cameron and Ed Miliband are preparing themselves for the first big media setpiece of the election campaign, as Sky and Channel 4 jointly present Cameron & Miliband Live: The Battle For Number 10.
The programme, which starts at 9pm tonight, is part traditional interview and part questioning by a studio audience.
After winning a coin toss, Mr Miliband has elected to appear after the Prime Minister.
Miliband And Cameron Prepare For Live Showdown
How was it? I've only just checked in now, and frankly I was still under the impression that the TV debate was off the table. Then again, as it was Sky and Channel 4, no surprise I missed it, as I generally follow the Beeb for news coverage, and I doubt they'd be promoting something on these channels.
Comfortable win for Miliband. This demonstrated exactly what Cameron won't face him head-to-head.
Anyone that has watched PMQs for the last 5 years knew that anyway.
PMQ's in the notorious playground of war criminals, perverts, petty criminals, and general acts of treason against the populace. Why is anybody voting exactly? :)
exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
it is a lose lose lose situation just like in the United States. Those are just three or four parties which are all ugly privileged pompous heads of a 4 headed beast. It is the same beast.any head of the beast which you vote for will still empower the beast to continue to fleece the people like the f****** scallywags and filthy thieves and perverts that they all are.
the beast gets the Sheep to argue to and fro about which one of its four heads is the best.
It was on BBC news, as well as sky and channel 4, which was better viewing because it had no adverts.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Paxmon asked some really personal and difficult questions which was great viewing.
Both politicians were asked questions from the audience.
Cameron looked nervous and sweaty. Milliband was bumbling at times.
Like 'Why have you privatised the NHS?' or 'Why has the national debt doubled despite you killing vulnerable members of society?' or 'How can you criticize Russia when you voted to invade Iraq and won't publish the Chilcott enquiry?' I don't believe tough questions were asked at all. It is pantomime on a dusty stage in the theater of financiers.
Did you watch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Cameron was asked about nhs, borrowing more and breaking his promise, and Milliband said invading Iraq was wrong.
well I am glad to see that atleast these points were mentioned at all! How did they respond to Milliband's assertion on Iraq? i didnt see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDid you watch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Cameron was asked about nhs, borrowing more and breaking his promise, and Milliband said invading Iraq was wrong.
Only 'highlights' but I thought it was just pantomime and soundbites. Where were the tough questions about child abuse? About HSBC? About war criminals? Also, they let Cameron lie repeatedly without following up on it. I also thought they were much harder on Milliband too who just came across as a dork. It's almost as though he doesn't want to win and the super coalition that is planned becomes inevitable. They are both awful, though Ed is obviously the nicer of the two. If Labour was serious the first thing they would do is kick Blair out of the party. Cameron is just a nasty piece of work looking to loot the place and get his place on the corporate ticket ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDid you watch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Cameron was asked about nhs, borrowing more and breaking his promise, and Milliband said invading Iraq was wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfOnly 'highlights' but I thought it was just pantomime and soundbites. Where were the tough questions about child abuse? About HSBC? About war criminals? Also, they let Cameron lie repeatedly without following up on it. I also thought they were much harder on Milliband too who just came across as a dork. It's almost as though he doesn't want to win and the super coalition that is planned becomes inevitable. They are both awful, though Ed is obviously the nicer of the two. If Labour was serious the first thing they would do is kick Blair out of the party. Cameron is just a nasty piece of work looking to loot the place and get his place on the corporate ticket ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDid you watch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Cameron was asked about nhs, borrowing more and breaking his promise, and Milliband said invading Iraq was wrong.
yep its all fucking staged, its demonization of Milliband, of course he didnt "want" to win, he doesnt want a bullet in the head so to speak.
They did get personal with Milliband saying hurtful things like Labour party chose the wrong brother, that he is a wimp and Putin would wipe the floor with him at the international stage also that Labour should be way ahead in the polls but it was him that was the reason why Labour are behind in the polls.
He blamed media, Murdoch propaganda and that he was more interested in real issues not interested in perpetuating myths.
The funny thing about Putin is that everything the British condemn him for they have done infinitely worse. Putin has actually improved life for his middle classes and built his economy on sound principles whilst the British have added another 75,000 pounds of debt on to each family in order to continue the ponzi scheme and prop up criminal banks. Putin took a region after a poll in which they chose to stay with Russia whilst Britain full on invaded several nations and left the Middle East a ruin. They full on threatened Scotland who now knows the score! Russia is no paradise, but the British are laughable in their hypocrisy. Carry on speculating.....