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On the net 24/7 ??? hmmm think not gimp boy !!
Listen Ali just stick with your basketball like I said, because you spout your mouth off on here and it's obvious you dont know anything, so instead of dissing people who obviously know what they are talking about, why don't you sit back and read what people are saying it will save yourself from looking a fool every time you post anything on here !!
You are a Fool, the end !!
Nobody gives a stinkin' poop about Lewis! Â ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Well check out your topic where you asked about who do you like the most tyson or Lewis, your own topic back fired because there were more people who voted for Lewis !!
Stick that in ya pipe and smoke the fucker !! LOL
Hey now go and run off and tell your boy friend Ali2gay to vote for Tyson on that topic !!
Why don't YOU vote for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Because I dont bother voting on really gay topics like that !!
Who do you like the most, what the fuck is that albout LOL
Why dont you just go right up to Tyson and wack your tongue straight down his pants !! Sick man
man for real you need to get a life. They are just threads, forums, posts. Be a real man, show respect, and if you have a problem dont diss on people on the forums like a pussy sitting behind your computer. Unless you can bring it, put up or shut the f u ck up. Nobody likes lewis...get over it marshmellow fuc kerQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Yeah, I think Rocky Marshmellow has nothing better to do and he says he can fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
`I usually like to stay out of these discussions and deal with the present But I saw both these fighters ringside and met Mr. Ali once. In actuality, Ali is a quiet individual and show business being everyone's business should know that some things arejust hype to sell tickets. As far as Mr. Lewis is concerned. His height brings him luck and he never really faced men with Ali's speed and chin in the ring. Let's just say that Although I am not a Lewis fan, I respect his accomplishments today. If he were coming up in Ali's youth, I don't see him as losing badly to Ali but a lost decision is eminent.
I agree. Lewis is too slow for Ali.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran
If Lewis thought that he had a hard time with boxers like a slow, upright defensive style Klitschko then wait until he wouldv'e dealt with someone that could hit hard and was much more faster and accurate. Ali would rumble on Lewis.
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
Once again DrUglyhead, you mention Lewis fighting Klitszcho when Lewis was out of shape and 37 years of age, It is unfair to mention Ali in his prime at 24 or 25 then mention Lewis in his last fight in his career at 37 !!
How about mentioning the Lewis that destroyed Golata or Lewis against Rahman in the rematch where everything was stacked against him and he totally destroyed them !!
Lewis never fought anyone of Ali's calibre and Ali never fought anyone the size and the skill of Lewis, and people who say Lewis was slow simply have not watched his fights, and I still haven't seen a heavyweight land a combo like the one Lewis landed on Botha, frightening accuracy with both hands !!
ali, drgoodlooking and rocky....
u lot obviously don't like each in boxing arguments, but i bet in real life u passionately make love in a three way gangbang. lol! ;D
dr uglyhead, ha!
good one marshmellow.
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Originally Posted by The_One77
If we did, Ali and Dr Uglyhead would be my bitches, just like they are on this forum !! :laugh:
That's right ganster! 8)
The One, you are a fruitcake. You listen to Rocky Marshmellow's bull and he makes excuses for a 37 year old Lewis and thinks Tyson wasn't almost the same age. Still, Tyson is around and like Ali says - no one gives a stinkin' poop about Lewis! He's a b#$%! Isn't that what Ronny Shields called him?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_One77
Wrong again Dr Uglyhead !!
Ronnie Sheilds may have said shit before the fight, but after it at the press conference, you know the one Tyson never turned up to because he was getting his face put back together. Well Sheilds said Mike was a good champion, Lennox is a great champion !!
Once again Uglyhead your saying Lewis was shit, just backing up everything that I have said about you and your Boy friend all along, you wouldn't know a good boxer if he came up to you and KOED you with a slap !!
Also why am I making excuses for Lewis because he was 37, he wupped Tyson and Klitszcho, both of them looked like they had been mugged !!
Lewis doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him, Tyson does !!
Actually I am wrong, LOL
It was Tyson's trainer at Stacey Mckinney at the Time of the Lewis fight who said Mike was a good champion, But Lewis is a great champion !!
Ronnie Sheilds, who is he to even comment on Lewis ???
The fact is, Tyson wanted Manny Steward as his trainer, Steward didn't want to know, because he knew Lewis was better.
Just like Ali and dundee, Lewis and Steward were a great partnership !!
LOL .... Ronnie Shields calls Lewis so it must be true, Shields is nothing more than a glorified Tyson cheer leader.
Hey, you got something right. Ronnie Shields isn't all that for a trainer and you help prove my case that Manny Stewart is a great trainer. For example, Lewis didn't have that "killer instinct" in him until Emmanuel started convincing him that he was bigger and stronger than most of those guys. He's good, but was a very boring fighter most of his career and again, I am not discrediting Lewis. I just saw that Emmanuel Stewart had to do a lot to "wake the sleeping lion."Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Well I think you need to look at Lewis's career before he got with Manny, then you would see some killer knockouts.
He didn't look to boring when he smashed Ruddocks head in, if anything Manny sorted Lewis's defence and footwork out. Lewis already proved he could KO people with 1 punch, and killer combo's !!
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
The so called boring fight Lewis had were against Tua, Holyfield he was with Manny then.
Also, Lewis was already Olympic gold medalist, Commonwealth gold Medalist, european champion, commonwealth champion, and world champion even before he got with Manny... So dont even try to make out it was all Manny's work !!
Ali over Tyson and Lewis as well, Tyson cannot fight on the inside, and doesn't know how to react when things are against him.
Ali would beat both, Lennox is overrated...
they will never fight so we will never know
Agree with that part of what you said......don't know about the rest thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by rambo11110
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i dont understand why people believe lewis would beat ali simply because he has a better jab and more power advantage.
these two factors alone cannot predict a fight.
wasnt foreman stronger and younger than ali? wasnt frazier more stronger than ali?
wasnt sonny liston stronger than ali?
ali was a superb boxer with high intelligence. I'm sure he would have studied lewis fights and would have devised a strategy.
ali was fast, clever, brave, solid chin and had high stamina.
he had plenty of game plans to beat an opponent.
to say lewis would beat ali simply because he is stronger and has a better jab is laughable. :boxing2:
good post mate and welcome to the forum ;)
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Originally Posted by fbi
Tyson would be the end of ali. He would slip his jab and show him what a real punch is! :boxingmatch:
good post, some small correctionsQuote:
Originally Posted by fbi
before thw winky - tito fight most people were saying "the fact that winky has a good jab wont win him the fight"
not look how that turned out.
his intellengence wasnt good atall, his score in the IQ test was 78, not even high enough to be in the US army.
other than that, sound work...
oh, and watch that phrasology (the bit in bold)
is there any other threads with as many posts in it as this one??? Someone post in it and send me a message when they have found one if there is one
Ali would of knocked tyson out because he would have been to clever for him. And tyson would of ran out of things to do after the fifth round when he realises nothing is working
why do people even bother comparing the opponents that both tyson and lewis have fought?
just because tyson ko'd biggs in 7 and lewis ko'd biggs in 3 doesnt mean lewis would beat tyson.
frazier beat ali. Then lost to foreman.
ali beat foreman and then beat frazier.
you have to look at the overall styles ans skills and what they have achieved in the ring.
and whats with all the people discrediting tyson just because he lost to douglas and holyfield?
u want to laugh at those losses?
look at how hard douglas and holyfield had to work to beat tyson. At any time, if douglas and holyfield lost their concentration and slacked, both would have been knocked several centuries ahead in time.
fighters have to have total concentration and supreme fitness to beat tyson.
i'll tell u what is hilarious. ;D ;D
lewis getting knocked over with a single punch by rahman? hahahahahhaa. how embarassing.
and knocked over by a punch by blinking cry baby oliver mcall?
lewis has to constantly prove himself to the public. it took him ages to be recognised as a great heavyweight.
u dont have to constantly convince the public how great u are if u truly are great.
tyson was recognised as formidable and devastating within his first 3 or 4 fights.
people were scared out of their minds even before he was champ.
The 3 word story thread has about a hundred million responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxing Game Maker
How embarrassing. :-[
I love Mike, but Ali could have taunted Mike into mistake after mistake.
And he would have done the 'arms at his sides' dodging of haymakers just like he did vs. Liston.
That kind of defense pulls mistakes out of a power puncher, cuz then all he wants to do is knock the smartasses head clean off. ;D
Ali every time.
Tyson doesn't have the heart or stamina for an opponent like Ali.
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Originally Posted by brad4dboxer
Why like Liston ??? Liston was old fat and probably paid off, if Ali fought Tyson in his prime the fight would be nothing like the Liston fight.
All of you who think Tyson would beat Ali are living in dream land.
Yes Tyson had alot of power and good head movement in his prime. But who did Tyson beat? The heavyweight division was not in the best of shapes. Tyson stood out in a very ordinary division, to my knowledge the best heavy weight he beat was Tubbs. I like Tyson back in the day and he has done alot bor boxing because he was exciting etc.
But I'm sorry all you Tyson fans, Ali would frustrate Tyson with his movement, his foot and hand speed, his reach, his jab etc.
Tyson would get tired in the later rounds and i feel Ali wins by a unanimous decision or possibily late stoppage.
Liston = puncherQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Tyson = puncher
Get it?
Like I said...
Because what he did against Sonny was embarrassing to Sonny.
It made Liston want to kill Clay.
Throwing wide open haymakers looking like an idiot.
And because I just watched both Liston fights again the other day and they are fresh in my mind. ;)
I had forgotten how foolish Clay made Sonny look.
It was worst than Sugarray's Leonard's taunts.
So?Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
You guys have been saying all week how old & fat Tyson is.
(We should all be so "fat") ::)
If I shared you conspiratory pessimism, I wouldn't be a fan of boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
If Ali fought Tyson in his prime the fight would be exactly like the Liston fight. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
You have to remember, if you are talking Prime Mike, you have to be talking Prime Ali.
Prime Ali wouldn't have been scared like all the guys (slobs) Mike fought in his prime.
Ali would get Mike into the later rounds & embarrass him into mistakes.
And I'm a Tyson fan!
BTW~
"conspiratory pessimism" is a 5$ Don King phrase I just made up ;D
Tyson always has the strikers chance, but Ali always seemed to weather the storm.
PLEASE PEOPLE, stop posting in this thread!
It's been argued to death a zillion times before and frankly i say 'let's forget about it!'
ps. mike tyson could beat ali in his prime ;D
Ali would decimate Tyson!
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kristian