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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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cnote111
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miles
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:::PSL:::
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miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
So I guess Bernard Hopkins is on steroid too then huh? :-\ Similar thing what happened to Roy Jones Jr years ago.
Quit sourgraping Miley. ;)
Pac refused to fight Floyd Mayweather because he had issues with taking a drugs test. Hopkins should take tests too. All boxers should.
The only difference here is that Pascal still took the fight and for that Hopkins is no where near on the same level of ridicule as Pac. PBF claimed time and time again Pac is an easy opponent for multiple reasons, if he would fought and beat Pac without the tests, would we all still be talking about Bloodtests in the same manner.
Didn't a Klitchko turn down a blood test at some point, where is the uproar?
To me this blood test is only a big deal because Mayweather didn't want to fight without it, even though he gave a 14 day window (which was later accepted) and then changed it to 0, then went on vacation and stopped thinking about boxing.
Meanwhile Pac is still fighting without bloodtests and most are still watching hundreds of other fighters that have not taken a blood test.
Why is anyone watching Boxing or any combat sport without the blood test? We should go on strike as viewers, we should protest all combat sports, we should just kill ourselves in protest on how much not taking these fukking blood tests are ruining the way of life. Oh my Gawd this topic is so important i think i'm going to stop eating until all athletes take bloodtests everyday of their lives. That is the only way to be sure that sports are played fairly.
~taking my pill now~
If you don't think the subject is important, don't read it, don't coment on it.
Simple.
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fan johnny
Or how about they just don't give a fuk!
Cuz alot are juicing and it would make life harder for them. I Agree.
If you really think that fighters, sports athletes don't care about fairness in their sport then you really must be retarded.
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Hornfinger
Do you still watch boxing on TV and going to boxing matches?
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
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sillent killer
Hornfinger
Do you still watch boxing on TV and going to boxing matches?
Not as much as I used to, their just seems to be a lot less fights I'm interested in these days. I tend not to be interested in fights that I can see as one sided beatings.
I watched groves vs degale the other day that was quite entertaining.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Hornfinger
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sillent killer
Hornfinger
Do you still watch boxing on TV and going to boxing matches?
Not as much as I used to, their just seems to be a lot less fights I'm interested in these days. I tend not to be interested in fights that I can see as one sided beatings.
I watched groves vs degale the other day that was quite entertaining.
Same here, I used to watch all the fights but now not so much. I still watch MMA it is little more entertaining then all this BS in boxing now days.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
;D This thread makes entertaining reading, keep it up chaps, box on :box3:
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Mattyhitman
;D This thread makes entertaining reading, keep it up chaps, box on :box3:
;)
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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sillent killer
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Hornfinger
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sillent killer
Hornfinger
Do you still watch boxing on TV and going to boxing matches?
Not as much as I used to, their just seems to be a lot less fights I'm interested in these days. I tend not to be interested in fights that I can see as one sided beatings.
I watched groves vs degale the other day that was quite entertaining.
Same here, I used to watch all the fights but now not so much. I still watch MMA it is little more entertaining then all this BS in boxing now days.
I watch some MMA but I think it's a very real advert for how crap testing in some sports is.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Hornfinger
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InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. :lolhaha:
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. :lolhaha:
:beat:
Desperation.
I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Hornfinger
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. :lolhaha:
:beat:
Desperation.
I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?
You have been in this forum a lot longer than me and you don't know if they have posts that are 5 years old. You really are not credible.
This 'Boxing Talk' forum already has 1032 pages and I recently was able to dig up a post from 2006.
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Opps, I wasn't able to include this guy again in my last post. :lolhaha:
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Mattyhitman
;D This thread makes entertaining reading, keep it up chaps, box on :box3:
That sneaky brocktonblockbust :sneaky: , after instigating this by starting the thread he just disappeared. ;D
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. :lolhaha:
:beat:
Desperation.
I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?
You have been in this forum a lot longer than me and you don't know if they have posts that are 5 years old. You really are not credible.
This 'Boxing Talk' forum already has 1032 pages and I recently was able to dig up a post from 2006.
Good for you desperate dan.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
I think we can all agree that pactards know a thing or two about bias..... ;D
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything. The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs test.
Spin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?
It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted. ;)
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
You come up with this excuse about your old post being buried when I asked you for proof that you had already been passionate about this random drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. If there is one out there you will be more than happy to dig it out to shut me up. As made famous by a notorious idiot who wants to be shown evidence that boxers are clean to believe that they are clean: "WHERE IS THE PROOF?"
:lol: someones getting very desperate now. ;D
Yes I'm lying, posts I made 5 years ago wouldn't be buried would they, I'm sure their still on page two fresh as a daisy. hahahahaha
Can't dig up any, can you? And you're implying that you have been a crusader for stricter drug test even before the Mayweather accusation. :lolhaha:
:beat:
Desperation.
I haven't even tried to dig any up. Does this forum even have posts that are 5 years old?
You have been in this forum a lot longer than me and you don't know if they have posts that are 5 years old. You really are not credible.
This 'Boxing Talk' forum already has 1032 pages and I recently was able to dig up a post from 2006.
Good for you desperate dan.
I questioned your credibility and that's all you can say. Can't prove me wrong, can you?
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything.
The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.
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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.
If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?
Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything.
The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.
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My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.
If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?
Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.
Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?
It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted. ;)
You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.
I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread to declare how great he is nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But as a Pacfan I will defend him from any false and malicious accusations.
Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?
It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted. ;)
You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.
I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But I will defend him for any false and malicious accusations.
Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?
Look forum troll/forum banned guy- I made my points on that too. Check the post history. It's all there.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything.
The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.
.
My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.
If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?
Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.
Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.
You do share the same illogical thinking as hornfinger. Are you two clones or something?
You haven't read my previous post, have you? I already said that it's reasonable to blame Manny in the first negotiation because he had the burden of proof. Now that he already agreed to it, you still blame him. And how can there be a contract signing if the opponent did not want to fight?
It appears that you are not content with the drug testing that Manny agreed to in the second negotiation. But it would have been alright with you if Manny had agreed to it in the first negotiation. THOSE TWO ARE THE SAME DRUG TEST!!! Why would the type of test matter if Manny agreed to it in the second, third or tenth negotiation?
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
That's because Miley is still PO'ed of Pac beating his beloved Barrera twice and sending Hatton to Lala land. Nyahahaaa! ;D
Yes right and look up my posts about Manny following the Cotto fight. How cynical was I then? I was totally on his side, he looked fantastic and I was on his side when it came to the mayweather fight.....but oh yes, the refusal to test for illegal substances arose. It put quite a downer on everything.
The best fighter in the world refuses a drugs testSpin it all you want, I was in Manny's camp until that. I realised that he was great and then he turned down the fight of a lifetime.
.
My God, have you really been trapped in a cave after the first negotiation? You keep on repeating this refusal when Manny had already agreed to it in the second negotiation.
If Manny again refused the demanded drug test in a third negotiation, do you think it would be a logical reason to blame Floyd then because he went on vacation in the second negotiation?
Update yourself as to what the latest situation is.
Any fighter who refuses a drugs test is open to blame. Pac has never agreed to full and open testing either. I don't see where you have recieved your own view from. Has Manny signed a contract agreeing these things? If so, show it.
You do share the same illogical thinking as hornfinger. Are you two clones or something?
You haven't read my previous post, have you? I already said that it's reasonable to blame Manny in the second negotiation because he had the burden of proof. Now that he already agreed to it, you still blame him. And how can there be a contract signing if the opponent did not want to fight?
It appears that you are not content with the drug testing that Manny agreed to in the second negotiation. But it would have been alright with you if Manny had agreed to it in the first negotiation. THOSE TWO WERE THE SAME!!! Why would it matter if Manny agreed to it in the second, third or tenth negotiation?
Fukk Miley. ;D He's a hater.
He's just making poor attempts to at least justify the losses of his favorite fighters. He's still having nightmares on how Pac destroyed them.
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miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
I think we can safely declare Hornfinger the winner. Pac fans are ridiculous in their apathetic and blase approach to a very serious issue. Does anyone really think that all top level boxers shouldn't be rigorously tested for performance enhancing drugs? If there is nothing to hide then there should be no hesitation in taking a test.
This statement coming from an unbias poster ............ (SARCASM!!!)
First of all, this isn't even a competition. If it is, then hornfinger will insist that we get tested for drugs.
How am I biased? Because I believe in drug testing for all top level fighters?
It isn't a competition, but Hornfinger has the better arguments. You on the other hand just sound like a former banned poster. Go on back to Pac's left testicle. I know you hate to be distracted. ;)
You think you're the only one who believes in drug testing for all top level fighters? I believe in drug testing for ALL FIGHTERS, not just top level. That isn't even the argument in here.
I am not a Pachugger. I haven't created any thread nor complemented him for any supernatural powers. I have criticized him a number of times. But I will defend him for any false and malicious accusations.
Whereas you are the one who hangs on to the testicles of the pachaters in this forum. I haven't seen you comment on what happened in the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation. Did you suddenly developed an amnesia because that was favorable to Manny?
Look forum troll/forum banned guy- I made my points on that too. Check the post history. It's all there.
Do you think I'm the only one who would be reading this? Most of the readers here (especially non-members) would not even check your post history so they're at a lost as well as to what those points are. Whereas I needed to repeat myself numerous times because I believe in the points that I'm making.
There was no point in you butting in because you have the same argument as hornfinger. Nothing new.
And accusing me of being a banned former poster. Sorry to disappoint you but you're wrong. It reminds me of those who throws out accusations without any proof. As they say, "Birds of the same feathers flock together.".
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.
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fan johnny
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miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.
Breeding people into poverty is idiocy, a man should have more sense than to combine religion with politics. His thinking is warped and illogical. He initially turned down a fight because he was unable to agree to full and comprehensive blood testing. The man is a hoax. He can get tattoo's carved all over the place and yet is scared of needles and random testing.
Manny Pac is well suited to political life. Deception and fraud are welcome bedfellows.
Utter nonsense.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.
And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?
Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?
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miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.
And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?
Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?
I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.
And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?
Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?
I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.
Let's keep his political views and his singing out of this.
You keep going on and on about him turning down the megafight. What did you expect Pacquiao to do in that second negotiation, isn't it for him to accept the drug test demand? He already did that so what still is your problem?
It's already late here so we'll have to continue this tomorrow. Don't take this personally, it's just an exchange of two conflicting ideas.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
What does his political views have to do with the drug test argument? For your information, I disagree with Manny on those views and I'm not even going to defend him on that. But his views are based on his religious beliefs and convictions and I respect him on that.
And what does his awful karaoke singing also have to do with this? Are you running out of things related to boxing to criticize about him? If people would pay to buy his albums or go to his concerts, then so be it. They are not stealing from you to do this nor are you forced to listen to his songs so what's the beef?
Manny did invite criticisms by his actions in the first negotiation, I am not even going to argue with that. But did you get stuck in that first negotiation? I haven't heard anything from you with regards to the second negotiation. Why is that?
I make the point about breeding people into poverty because it shows the kind of logic and stupidity we are dealing with. Only a fool wishes his country people a life of eternal poverty and only a fool refuses a mega fight because of a drugs test. Furthermore the ridiculous attempts at singing show that the man is pure ego. He has no talent whatsoever and yet wants to put this stuff out. Only an egotistical lunatic would turn down a mega fight because of a fear of needles.
Let's keep his political views and his singing out of this.
You keep going on and on about him turning down the megafight. What did you expect Pacquiao to do in that second negotiation, isn't it for him to accept the drug test demand? He already did that so what still is your problem?
And let's not forget the extra marital affairs and love child. "I just want what is best for my people". Sure you do, you just want to impregnate them all! Haha, what a sleazeball.
The fact that he turned it down first time out is what bugs me. What kind of man does that? An egotistical fool, that is who.
To counter that Floyd is an eogtistical fool too, but the man never refused a drugs test.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
miles
You believe in the points you are making, but it is quite clear that Pac and seemingly this issue are the only points you have ever tried to make. You basically defend a nasty little creature who would happily have the population of his country breed themselves into eternal poverty rather than take a drugs test. Manny Pac has no integrity, it doesn't matter how many awful karaoke songs he sings or how many times he fights over the hill old men, he avoided a mega fight because he wouldn't take a drugs test.
The man invited criticism by his own actions. Continue to defend your man because it is the only thing you can do.
Your reply about integrity is a complete oxymoron. The reason than man has a problem with his political position is because of his religious integrity and not because he lacks it. The problem has 'never' been about not taking the tests but rather about a cut off date.
Breeding people into poverty is idiocy, a man should have more sense than to combine religion with politics. His thinking is warped and illogical. He initially turned down a fight because he was unable to agree to full and comprehensive blood testing. The man is a hoax. He can get tattoo's carved all over the place and yet is scared of needles and random testing.
Manny Pac is well suited to political life. Deception and fraud are welcome bedfellows.
Utter nonsense.
What the fuk are you talking out of the side of your mouth for? It's a simple concept to understand. Promoting natural family planning in favor of he believes is God's design over mans designs in contraceptives. You are the one warping the message. The same as your twisting facts. Pac has taken the tests and is willing to take the tests. You don't even know what the fuk is a "comprehensive test", same as Hornifinger. Pac never claimed to be afraid of needles. That is a BS accusation started by the Mayweathers. What he concerned about is the affect of blood being drawn so close to the fight that it weakens him. This is because blood was drawn in the first fight against Morales just before the fight and he said it weakened him.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.
An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.
An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.
Oh bwoy :vd:
Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.
Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.
Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.
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miles
As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.
An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.
Oh bwoy :vd:
Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.
Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.
Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.
It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.
As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.
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Re: WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???
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miles
It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. But the point is still true that Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made. We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing. There is no getting away from that.
As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.
It is not blatantly untrue to say either fighter was the cause of the first failed negotiation. I once refused to drive a car but that doesn't mean, I don't know how to drive. Anyone can continue to quote the original statement and say I don't know how to drive. The fact is, I drive just fine. Someone saying I can't drive, because I once refused to drive is intentionally misleading the point of the subject matter, which is exactly what you do taking about a fight being made between Floyd and Pac. What appears more and more evident is that Mayweather Jr. simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. There is no because argument to the contrary because Floyd is unwilling to even go to the negotiating table.
You keep repeating that Pacquiao doesn't want to take the test but that is a blatant lie according to the NSAC which has stated he has testing clean in every test he is ever taken. And before you start repeating the BS, what they test for is what is on the list of banned substances including tests that fall under the Random testing policy they implemented in 08'. It doesn't matter if they test blood or urine, the fact is they test for what is on the banned list. Having a discussion about any other testing is simply not within the criteria of the rules and not part of the negotiations so it wouldn't be relevant toward making a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.
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miles
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:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
miles
As if an imaginary concept such as god is really relevant to whether you put a condom on your penis or not. Pac believes in foolish things because he is a simpleton. Great fighter, but nothing much going on between the ears. Superstition and religion is hocus pocus for primitive beings. If Manny really thinks a little blood being taken weakened him then he really is a nut. Morales beat him because he was better on the night. As simple as. What else was it? He had on the wrong colour socks or some such nonsense. Honestly, Pac and his team are so full of shit that their camp is starting to look a bit like a sewage facility.
An honest person with nothing to hide takes the tests with no questions asked. Manny fucked up and the question will always be asked....why did he back out of a super fight over a blood test? It will always be ripe for healthy speculation.
Oh bwoy :vd:
Pac is STILL trying to meet Floyd demands. He never backed out you moron.
Floyd is the one who has been killing this fight from day 1. You have to be an idiot not to see this. When he came off from his semi-retirement and asked if hed fight pacquiao, he said no! No I wont fight him because he is no PPV draw, No I wont fight him because of Bob Arum. No I wont fight him because he never called me out.
Then he made a ridiculous demand for a blood testing which is outside the standards of athletic commission instead of properly appealing to boxing commissions to change their testing protocols. On the other hand manny has NOW EVEN AGREED TO THE CUT OFF THAT FLOYD WANTED. 14 days! Mosely and Mayweather were no longer tested 18 days prior to the fight, so I dont see anymore reason why he has to alter the terms again. And then when manny agrees to the new terms, floyd will again demand that blood be drawn out of them in between the rounds of the fight just to make sure he is not taking anything during the 1 minute breaks.
It is blatantly untrue to say that Pac was not the obstacle in the initial negotiations. I am
not disputing that Floyd has been the main obstacle in getting the fight made following those initial negotiations either.
But it appears your hatred had been directed at Manny even after he agreed to the demand. I don't think Floyd cares less about the fight anymore. Floyd never cared about the fight in the first place, he had been trying to avoid the fight that's why the drug test demand. But the point is still true that
Pac would not agree to random testing and that this was the big stumbling point in getting the fight made.
He already agreed to it but you still think that's the stumbling point? Hello!!! We have since heard them say that they will accept a 14 day window and so on, but still Pac
initially refused a mega fight because he didn't want to adhere to comprehensive drugs testing.
Stop living in the past. There is no getting away from that.
As I say Floyd is a lot of things, but we cannot say that he has ever refused a drugs test.
He just demands the kind of blood test that should be done.
It seems like hornfinger just went on vacation and he sent in a substitution.
