I think there will be an Upset. Jacob's is too fast and active.
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I think there will be an Upset. Jacob's is too fast and active.
bet they still give it to GGG and set up a rematch..the blueprint is evident
silver haired vixen in the crowd behind the guy who looks a bit like a fat antiono tarver is a gilf btw :S
Beating cancer and then beating GGG would be a story..he messed up big time with the IBF though.
i should be able to like my own posts
I think I have it 116-111 Jacobs. I did not expect that.
I don't score these fights because obviously I'm always fried but I've got Jacobs ahead based on the overall thing.
Jacobs whipped his ass over last few rounds lets just be real, he pulled away stronger but no fuckin idea on cards. Jacobs impressed the shit out of me..I was totally wrong thinking he'd fold! Golovkin needs a rematch off tough scrap
Triple G looked flat and very slow.
The winner is Golovkin
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Jacobs wins twice, the man with the story and new found glory.
Fucking hell man, I feel for Jacobs there
Too much money involved for a canelo vs GGG fight..this is boxing
Rematch surely!
I honestly think canelo will beat golovkin now.. golovkin has a lot of good stuff going for him... he really doesnt like body shots and canelo is great at those, golovkin cuts of the ring well, canelo doesnt but will he need to when fighting someone like golovkin ? I think canelo stops golovkin
I think this was the right decision by the judges btw
Of course. That was a bullshit decision, GGG won purely on reputation. Jacobs out-boxed AND out-punched him.
I suppose it was too much to expect for two legitimate decisions in a row.
WTF? Thats a bullshit decision. Aside from the knockdown, I thought it was like 9-3 in rounds, ridiculous. Jacobs deserved to win that....
I am unsure what sport golovkin is competing in, is it boxing ? :S
I didn't think it was close at all. I had it 9-3 in rounds too.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
GGG sounds embarrassed, I think he knows he has been very very lucky there
max this is boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I thought Jacobs did enough to overcome the KD there. Both guys had their moments, but Jacobs showed versatility and intelligence to find a way against a GGG that at times looked very predictable. Faced with someone who can take his power, GGG didn't look as impressive. I have no interest in a Canelo fight, I would prefer to see Jacobs in a rematch. Canelo doesn't deserve a GGG fight either. He had his chance, he should be left out to dry.
Glolovkin seemed slow and flat he was a lucky lad.
I have a funny feeling this is the best of Golovkin at this point. Have to say for ppv the fights unfolded very level and thoroughly competitive. Hindsight being 20-20 ;D great scraps
well the thing is canelo doesnt really need a golovkin fight at all, he is a big star and multiple weight world champion(well 154 and 155 division :S), he has the backing of de la hoya, canelo is in a pretty good position.. I would think golovkin doesnt really need a fight v canelo because who cares really but due to money making I would think ggg needs it more than canelo doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
He's pretty old and didn't he have about 400 amateur fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
what the dickens is jim lampley rambling about :S struggling in a fight is a good thing....
GGG IS 36...and now he's not fightingwelterweights anymore he needs to make that Canelo fight asap.
We all know who won but like I said before there's so much money involved in the Canelo fight, Jacobs had to knock him out to win.
Jacobs won tonight but I never expected Ward to get the decision against sergey...Sergey has not got a dance partner like Canelo so there's a big difference between the two.
Wrong decision but Jacobs will be back.
GGG is still a nice guy but he knows time is running out.
steady on m8... golovkin is still 34, stop adding years to the poor old gitQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
right then, bed times the right time for me. Couple of hours kip and then walk around like a zombie all day tomorrow
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Originally Posted by imp
I think GGG was fighting a light heavyweight tonight ;)
That weight difference must have made it harder for him tonight.
I had Jacobs winning that by a round but i don't agree that fighters should be allowed to pile on so much weight that they end up 1 or 2 weight divisions bigger than the opponent.
The rules were changed for a good reason after Arturo Gatti hospitalised/brain damaged an opponent after coming in huge at fight night.
I caught this on a feed so I can't say for sure till i see the replay (but I had Golovkin winning because a lot of Danny's flurry and shots landed on the gloves... I think Jacobs was getting survival points from people.. but like i said i'm not sure at this point) .. Anyway, Jacobs could have been as high as a 180 during the fight, which explains the shouldering in and pushing off. Victor Conte, who was part of jacobs' camp.. spilled the beans. He was a light heavy this morning (176 an hour before he skipped the IBF weigh in)Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
I think GGG was fighting a light heavyweight tonight ;)
That weight difference must have made it harder for him tonight.
I had Jacobs winning that by a round but i don't agree that fighters should be allowed to pile on so much weight that they end up 1 or 2 weight divisions bigger than the opponent.
The rules were changed for a good reason after Arturo Gatti hospitalised/brain damaged an opponent after coming in huge at fight night.
Victor Conte speaks on Daniel Jacobs' fight weight - The Ring
Had GGG winning the last two rounds and clearly the last round. Jacobs tried stealing the 11th round in the last minute. Close fight no doubt, but I'm surprised so many had Jacobs winning. I expected more of a 50-50 split. Now, chocalito got robbed imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I didn't score but will enjoy the replay tomorrow. Still saw Jacobs looking stronger and fighting his fight second half. Static but effective. Golovkin would gain ground and not do work when he had Jacobs hung up and it's Jacobs upside now off coin flip decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkHad GGG winning the last two rounds and clearly the last round. Jacobs tried stealing the 11th round in the last minute. Close fight no doubt, but I'm surprised so many had Jacobs winning. I expected more of a 50-50 split. Now, chocalito got robbed imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
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Originally Posted by J_UndisputedI caught this on a feed so I can't say for sure till i see the replay (but I had Golovkin winning because a lot of Danny's flurry and shots landed on the gloves... I think Jacobs was getting survival points from people.. but like i said i'm not sure at this point) .. Anyway, Jacobs could have been as high as a 180 during the fight, which explains the shouldering in and pushing off. Victor Conte, who was part of jacobs' camp.. spilled the beans. He was a light heavy this morning (176 an hour before he skipped the IBF weigh in)Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
I think GGG was fighting a light heavyweight tonight ;)
That weight difference must have made it harder for him tonight.
I had Jacobs winning that by a round but i don't agree that fighters should be allowed to pile on so much weight that they end up 1 or 2 weight divisions bigger than the opponent.
The rules were changed for a good reason after Arturo Gatti hospitalised/brain damaged an opponent after coming in huge at fight night.
Victor Conte speaks on Daniel Jacobs' fight weight - The Ring
Says it all really, the other sanctioning bodies need to follow the IBF ruling, on one hand they install weight divisions but on the other hand dismiss them like they don't matter - it's fucked up :confused:
That includes ex-BALCO ringleader Victor Conte, now working on the right side of the law as a nutrition and supplement consultant.
“I predict Danny will be between 178-180 when he steps into the ring. He was at 176 at 8 a.m. this morning. Don’t be surprised if Danny does very well this evening. He had a tremendous training camp on the west coast. He spent the last four weeks of his training camp at my SNAC training facility in San Carlos, California. He is in the best shape of his life. He will be huge tonight when he steps into the ring! Danny will be big, fast and powerful. We will soon see how this all plays out.”
Conte said he knew Friday night Jacobs would not be doing the morning of weight check, for the record.
Indeed. Smartly played, perhaps, on paper by Jacobs. He can win four other belts off Golovkin tonight, so missing one wouldn’t wreck his mood.
Now, should the sport be allowing one man to be a cruiserweight and his foe a super middleweight on fight night? I would say ideally no. Maybe time for all the sanctioning bodies to follow the IBF and institute the day of weight cap.
Great fight. Not one of the Greatest or an ATG but a great fight nonetheless. I fail to see how it is anything but a vindication for Golovkin but can not say I am surprised that some are trying to literally rewrite history on the tail end of a fight GGG did not even lose. Sad negative rubbish. It seriously undermines any achievement of Jacobs to pretend that he lost narrowly to an overhyped one dimensional KO merchant.
Early doors Golovkin went about business as usual, but Jacobs was harder to tag and much taller and heavier with a range advantage that made it hard work. Credit to Jacobs he did a great job of peppering GGG with that up and down jab but his corners non stop exaltations to "fight fire with finesse" where always going to sell both fighters short. The myth of Golovkin having no defense is like a snowball that has gathered mass since his first fights without headgear, but you could clearly see even in this his hardest task yet that he slipped, feinted, leant, tilted and ducked at several opportune moments through the fight. This is what coming forward so relentlessly requires of a fighter particularly when in against an opponent with the one punch stopping power of Jacobs.
Round four even without the KD was a virtual whitewash and Jacobs had by then already squandered his opportunity to jump on GGG early and then failed to decisively turn the bout around in his favour. He won more of the late rounds bar 9 and 12 but 5,6 and 7 where too close and the right man won.
A rematch should include an IBF still upper weight rehydration clause or GGG should maybe try and force Oscars hand if they really think this fight has exposed him. The ridiculous idea touted somewhere here that Canelo would stop him with a body punch or outbox him is so far off the mark it hardly warrants a reply, but I will indulge whoever said it.
Do you really think that Golovkin is so fragile and exposed after last night that all it is going to take to beat him is a single wonder punch from a fighter that has yet to fight far lesser fighters in the same weight class?
Golovkin could have lost last night and it still would not have made his career much less impressive. People moan about wanting fearless champions willing to do anything, including travel into the opponents back yard and taking less than stellar pay days in order to unify and fight the best, and then when they turn up they can't wait to tear them down and dismiss them as charlatans.
Had Jacobs winning a close fight. I think it is clear he won though. I didn't see him dominating at any point as some here saw. I think in a rematch Jacobs has more options but GGG makes it hard to keep a game plan.
I had Jacobs the winner but there were some very close rounds.
GGG is a week off 35 age may be catching up,! Jacobs boxed used his brain GGG done a lot of stalking and not much landing.
A good fight not a great one but Jacobs well worth a rematch.