He took a page out of Floyd's book.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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He took a page out of Floyd's book.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Honestly, I think this shows that Ruiz really isn’t that good. I mean Ruiz is supposed to be a boxer. He isn’t a slugger. He just got completely outboxed by a guy who is much more of a puncher. Not saying that AJ is garbage at boxing, but try to do that against Fury and he loses every single round easily.
The HW division is generally weak and still is. I think it’s better than the Klitschko era for sure, but not one fighter is great. AJ has generally done what he has needed to, but now I definitely pick Fury and Wilder over him. Whereas before I thought a fight with Wilder was more of a pickem fight.
Yep. The Pussy Page.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaHe took a page out of Floyd's book.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
As much as I think ruiz deserves a third match I am not sure I want to see it
WrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
You just called a the guy who won back three belts to become once again heavyweight champion of the world 'ruined'. I am not the one projecting anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonSo you agree his is changed yet ignore my first post WHICH IS QUOTED IN THIS CONVERSATION “AJ clearly has no confidence(you have agreed), hopefully this win helps that but he really just seems ruined”. Seems, not is, seems. You don’t disagree that that is how he looks. You project that that will change. There is no evidence that will change, I don’t even argue that he could not change. I only speak on what has been seen. But you disagree because I haven’t projected what I can’t know and you can’t either and you feel the need to bolster your projection by condescending. And let me guess, I’m being the dick by pointing out the condescending hahahahahahaha bizarro world.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzOf course not he was fighting the bogeyman that smashed his castle. It doesn' t mean he is 'ruined', ha! The clowns writing off Joshua are all a bit lame tbh. A pair of jeans are not even worth wearing until they are patched to within an inch of their life. What happened to character? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonDid he seem like a confident guy to you? A pair of jeans with a stain can cover your legs(comparable to winning) but they’re not what they were.(ruined)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzRuined? Ha! He can fight who he likes. At least you gave him some credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I spoke on what we have seen, I projected nothing, assumed nothing. How very biased of me(now I will condescend back since this is the only way to communicate)
You claim he has no confidence and then insist I agree with you and yet the guy just managed to get thru twelve rounds against what to all intents and purposes was his nemesis last time out.
Nobody is saying Joshua is some ATG but people here are now pretending that he is garbage because he didn't stand in front of Ruiz and give him a free shot or try to knock out a fella that took his best shots. It's boxing not WWE FFS ;D
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Fury is not going to take the shots on the chin Ruiz did, even if he does get past Wilder.
Ruiz doesn't deserve a rematch. He should have trained properly for this fight. He got used to those silk pajamas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
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Originally Posted by FatboxingfanYep. The Pussy Page.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaHe took a page out of Floyd's book.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
You sound like such a big man calling out a heavyweight champ in AJ and a modern great in Floyd.
Let's see if Usyk can change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Big fan of Usyk but let’s let him fight a decent heavyweight before we credit him at heavyweight
Ruiz does not deserve a 3rd fight
Highlights
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8psUfbNOXxU
Ruiz's very low performance. Joshua fought wisely
Anthony Jousua 117
Andy Ruiz Jr. 111
Yes he doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It wouldn't surprise me if Ruiz is inactive for a spell after this fight.
I am not adding to your prediction thread until a weigh in. I will only watch if he loses 2 stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
March 31, 2020. Joshua vs Ruiz III
Joshua: 247 pounds
Ruiz: 303 pounds
Hard to read the bias posts. AJ didn’t fight, he boxed. The fat boy was stupid. He thought he would be in a fight and could throw his weight around. He knows how to box but was just looking to brawl. I guess a win is a win good for AJ but he’s not going to get any respect fighting Wilder. With Wilders long reach, AJ is destined to get caught.
AJ is a coward. Look at that big strong Hercules guy six foot seven and he was running like a chicken from a short fat midget who eats 25 Snickers bars a day
Pathetic and they don't make them like they used to
I really hope so and I think he canQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaLet's see if Usyk can change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Usyk v joshua would be top drawer, usyk likes to do bugger all when he suspects danger for the first 1/4 of a f ight so he's always going to be down on the scorecards but once he starts ramping it up the git is very impressive,, he's not a short guy either and his movement and range finding would cause joshua so many problems... But of course he'll do nothing for the first few rounds and put himself in a hole and will have to chase it a bit and joshua is monstrously powerful so when he decides to get started he may still have to be restrained and give away more rounds or be kod.. Really intersting fight that I think will happen at some time(pretty sure usyk claims he got in bed with matchroom to get at joshua and commie mafia is powerful, even for fast eddie).... Blah blah blah, usyk has the skills and physicality to make joshua look silly but will he?
I think usyk would beat joshua(in a close contest) but lose to fury, the pikey scammer is a nob but he has learned how to use his size very well and with usyks tendency to give away rounds he'd just be too far behind on the cards before he found success v fury... Id tip joshua to walk through fury and KO him though.
I get that. I just think there’s been two fights - one a win by a lopsided comprehensive boxing shut out to one guy and the other a lopsided comprehensive beating win by the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaRuiz doesn't deserve a rematch. He should have trained properly for this fight. He got used to those silk pajamas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Had Ruiz been same weight as last time we”d be saying otherwise.
But not training properly just isn’t right so tough one.
We forgave Lewis once.
Ruiz cheated the public out of their money by being totally unprofessional and not training properly.
He won the lottery by getting his title shot and showed extremely limited ambition by settling for 2 big paydays as opposed to training hard, respecting the sport and actually becoming a good heavyweight champion.
A squat, tank like fighter with fast hands, surprisingly nimble footwork and a very good chin. He could have made something much better out of his talent but I will remember him for his laziness in training and for kissing that latent talent up the wall.
I’m not a Joshua fanboy, and sometimes find him cringeworthy, but what he pulled off is very impressive. Having built his entire career on being a destroyer, he showed true grit and also ability in transforming himself into a completely different fighter for this rematch. Not many fighters, and very few heavyweights have ever pulled off such a stylistic change.
ruiz never closed the gap, or never tried to, so that if joshua stopped moving, so would ruiz. if joshua was moving ruiz was following him, and if joshua set his feet ruiz would freeze in place waiting for something, anything to work off of. there wasnt. and all joshua had to do was set his feet to freeze ruiz at mid range, give him nothing, then pull him back out.
i dont know if ruiz beats that joshua, but if he was at all in shape, maybe he could at least try.
The pig fest is over.
The corporate managers at Snickers and KFC are suicidal right now.
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The fight was a classic case of a professional athlete who gives his sport 100% and someone who isn't and doesn't.
If you prefer to watch a fat guy plod around hoping his opponent forgets his game plan and gets in range for a game changing shot then there's plenty of carpark / back yard bare knuckle fights on youtube to watch but boxing's not for you.
A true pro learns from and corrects his mistakes. A 15 minutes of famer expects things to play out the same way and loses his desire when he flukes his way to the top.
This result was a victory for boxing, as it shows the difference between a pro boxer and a half interested punch.
Also there is also a lesson for Wilder from this match.
You keep losing rounds hoping your one punch is going to put your opponent to sleep ? Sure it will happen most of the time. But sooner or later there will come one fight where the opponent is smart enough to fight perfectly for 12 rounds...and you will lose that fight badly.
As for AJ ? He "Wladed" Ruiz. Gotta say it was kinda funny that you had this short fat guy having a spartan Adonis looking man running around fighting. Jab, jab, run, hold, jab, jab, run.
As well as AJ boxed he will never be able to slip, roll and ride with punches like a Fury
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But IMO he beats Fury because Ruiz has the kinda chin that Wayne Mccoullough, Marcos Villasana, Jake Lamatta and Oliver McCall had and some of the shots AJ landed on Ruiz would have taken Fury out.
Awesome post
Everybody says Fury is a better boxer but who is Olympic Champion Joshua that's who not Fury folks.
Olympic Champions are not two a penny they talk about amateur pedigree AJ has it don't be surprised he boxes Fury's head off.
Wilder has a punch pretty poor against a 40 plus old man yes he wins by ko but he lost 6 rounds on the trot not the best.
On any given night the 3 could beat each other.!
Agree on any given night they can all beat each other.
A disciplined AJ out points wilder easily
Wilder can stop Fury - but I'd favour fury ud
Fury schools AJ all day long for me
Exactly! Never forget Audley Harrison, another heavyweight Gold medallist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
if AJ is given a script, he can execute it Klitchsko style, its very evident he struggles to adapt unless a style is tailor made for him.
Wilder struggles too, just trying to time that right hand all night. Does anything think AJ can cope with that handspeed and power for 12 rounds?
AJ boxing Furys head off? Lets LOL at that shall we?
All three have glaring weak points. however at this stage we can only dream that they actually fight each other.
Prime Cassius Clay makes all 3 look like the garbage they really are.
Yeah, of course he does. But I don’t think anyone is saying this crop is anything less than sub standard comparatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatboxingfan
Was Fury a outstanding amateur No AJ Olympic Champion need I say more Harrison well he was a very poor pro.
AJ is a two times Champion shit there is know pleasing some people he lost he came back he totally outboxed Ruiz.
Ruiz was in shocking condition shameful really 20 stone of blubber.
The art of boxing to hit and not be hit that was a classic display of the noble art.!
The one thing I can’t understand is how anybody would be interested in a third fight between AJ and Ruiz. I would only be interested if Ruiz took a couple of fights and beat some top fighters to prove that he would take a third fight seriously. I have no interest to watch another cash grab by Ruiz.
Groves and Froch post fight shenanigans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCsBA_xPMIY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3f RHxXt4a8MW_GPrwj8TU1T9GjcwLSxrrBqiHi8H0MH3u1boNBGb 5A9zQ
Wilder already trying to piggy back off AJ and claim that he is being ducked ;D
https://dailypost.ng/2019/12/08/deon...nthony-joshua/ WBC champion Deontay Wilder has revealed he does not see a fight with Anthony Joshua for all the belts ever happening.
Joshua reclaimed his WBA, IBF, WBO, and IBO belts from Andy Ruiz in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, almost six months after he lost it at Madison Square Garden.
This has led to talk that Wilder and Joshua could face off in a unification bout.
However, Wilder told The Athletic: “I don’t think we’ll ever see a unification bout.
“We’ll never see it, and I don’t want people to get their hopes up on it because it’ll never happen.
“They couldn’t say anything about fighting me. They couldn’t mention my name. They went around me
“I’m too dangerous. You’ve seen what I do in the ring. I don’t play around. And they know if Ruiz can get Joshua out of there, imagine. That’s why they stayed away from me.”
Seems Joshua may fight Usyk and Pulev in mandatory fights next
We all want to see an undisputed heavyweight champion at the end 2020. No excuses from anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Fury will be the first to quit boxing. Wilder and Josh'll be around much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe all want to see an undisputed heavyweight champion at the end 2020. No excuses from anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Agree with this, he already has 1 foot outside the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatboxingfanFury will be the first to quit boxing. Wilder and Josh'll be around much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe all want to see an undisputed heavyweight champion at the end 2020. No excuses from anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
If I were AJ, I would just push for the Wilder fight. I think he loses, but I also think that if he has to fight Usyk, he has a strong chance of losing also. If that happens, he loses even more money.
But I honestly think that Wilder would be more than willing to fight AJ right now because he sees weakness and doubt. I can’t see AJ being mentally prepared for Wilder.
Just watched a few rounds, don’t think I need to watch it all. Joshua did what he had to, made the adjustments he had to, more power to him.
Ruiz, well, inexcusable really. But you can’t blame Joshua for that. Massive disappointment for me. And to ask for a 3rd fight..... fuck off will ya. They should say to him, right if you come in at 260lbs or less, you get your full purse. If you come in over that, you get £20!
But that’ll only waste 6 months of AJ’s time cos he’ll pull out.
All these people saying “AJ is a coward” and “he just got on his bike”, have a fucking word with yourselves. This is fucking Boxing, it’s an art. If you don’t like it, don’t watch.
But guess what? Loads DO WATCH! And that’s why he earns the big money.
So let’s address AJ’s “mental state” :rolleyes: if they say “AJ , for this fight , you have to be 265lbs , guess what? On the money. Or “AJ, you need to come in light, 245lbs, bang, he’s on it. Tell me another HW capable of that?
Focused for 12 rounds. It’s not like he hasn’t proved he can knock people out is it?
Like that great philosopher Taylor Swift once said:
“Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate , hate.
Players gonna play, play , play, play, play.”