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Watched the Tarzan film on TV and it was rushed, rubbish and too unbelievable
The new one, with Alexander Skarsgaad?
I watched it in the cinema last year, took my two young nephews to see it.
I absolutely hated it. The latent racism oozed out of almost every scene.
All those noble, yet incompetent, black Africans who were helpless to solve any problems until a bunch of white Americans arrived to sort it all out for them.
Anybody white automatically assumed a leadership position. Even black Samuel Jackson was deemed an honorary white person (or 'better') because at least he is American :furious2:
As the great great Muhammad Ali said "We look at Jesus, and we see a white with blond hair and blue eyes. We look at all the angels; we see white with blond hair and blue eyes. Now, I’m sure there’s a heaven in the sky and colored folks die and go to heaven. Where are the colored angels? They must be in the kitchen preparing milk and honey. We look at Miss America, we see white. We look at Miss World, we see white. We look at Miss Universe, we see white. Even Tarzan, the king of the jungle in black Africa, he’s white"
Fuck me, what's happening ...... I sound like a certain other poster on this website :confused:
My nephews, on the other hand, just enjoyed the film.
Should Tarzan be black African? I kind of thought the lessons Tarzan taught re: Nature vs Nurture put everyone of the same level....but hey, what do I know I'm just some crazy white guy married to an Injun.
Hey what about Mowgli? Does he catch any shit for being Indian and not black/African? RK wrote The Jungle Book, he had some not so great things to say in regards to races in Heart of Darkness......at least if you read Chinua Achebe's 'Things Fall Apart' which was an answer to 'Heart of Darkness'....I really disliked 'Things Fall Apart'....it was supposed to show the Tribal African in a good light, it really didn't tick that box for me but whatever I guess I read that when I wasn't in a mind to learn from it....all I seem to remember is Okonkwo being an asshole who gets drunk, beats his woman, wrestles like a boss, has a machete, and yams are extremely important....oh and the Catholic Church is baaaaaaaad for attempting to push religion on to these people. Not much is ever said of Islam though which is odd because those folks brought religion too.
Edgar Rice Burroughs (creator of Tarzan) was a white guy living from 1875-1950...an American as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellucidar...click on the 'races' link on wikipedia for his Pellucidar stories....interesting. I bet he was a bit less PC in his day people these days take offense like it'll win them some kind of prize (of course not meaning you........although, lol, hahahaha just because you thought you sounded like denilson).
Jungle book was in an Indian jungle.
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Thank you Captain Obvious.....I brought that up because "What, it's out of the realm of believability/possibility that a child of ______ race could be left to be raised by wolves or apes?"
Why is it an issue?
Sure I get the whole "Why are tribal folks seen as idiots?" question, I get that, but the "That character really should be ____ race" meeeeh, the author of the book didn't seem to think so.
Besides, I do not believe that the idea of a black/African Tarzan would be hailed as something great, I believe quite the opposite would be true.
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Master
Watched the Tarzan film on TV and it was rushed, rubbish and too unbelievable
The new one, with Alexander Skarsgaad?
I watched it in the cinema last year, took my two young nephews to see it.
I absolutely hated it. The latent racism oozed out of almost every scene.
All those noble, yet incompetent, black Africans who were helpless to solve any problems until a bunch of white Americans arrived to sort it all out for them.
Anybody white automatically assumed a leadership position. Even black Samuel Jackson was deemed an honorary white person (or 'better') because at least he is American :furious2:
As the great great Muhammad Ali said "We look at Jesus, and we see a white with blond hair and blue eyes. We look at all the angels; we see white with blond hair and blue eyes. Now, I’m sure there’s a heaven in the sky and colored folks die and go to heaven. Where are the colored angels? They must be in the kitchen preparing milk and honey. We look at Miss America, we see white. We look at Miss World, we see white. We look at Miss Universe, we see white. Even Tarzan, the king of the jungle in black Africa, he’s white"
Fuck me, what's happening ...... I sound like a certain other poster on this website :confused:
My nephews, on the other hand, just enjoyed the film.
Should Tarzan be black African? I kind of thought the lessons Tarzan taught re: Nature vs Nurture put everyone of the same level....but hey, what do I know I'm just some crazy white guy married to an Injun.
Hey what about Mowgli? Does he catch any shit for being Indian and not black/African? RK wrote The Jungle Book, he had some not so great things to say in regards to races in Heart of Darkness......at least if you read Chinua Achebe's 'Things Fall Apart' which was an answer to 'Heart of Darkness'....I really disliked 'Things Fall Apart'....it was supposed to show the Tribal African in a good light, it really didn't tick that box for me but whatever I guess I read that when I wasn't in a mind to learn from it....all I seem to remember is Okonkwo being an asshole who gets drunk, beats his woman, wrestles like a boss, has a machete, and yams are extremely important....oh and the Catholic Church is baaaaaaaad for attempting to push religion on to these people. Not much is ever said of Islam though which is odd because those folks brought religion too.
Edgar Rice Burroughs (creator of Tarzan) was a white guy living from 1875-1950...an American as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellucidar...click on the 'races' link on wikipedia for his Pellucidar stories....interesting. I bet he was a bit less PC in his day people these days take offense like it'll win them some kind of prize (of course not meaning you........although, lol, hahahaha just because you thought you sounded like denilson).
Jungle book was in an Indian jungle.
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Thank you Captain Obvious.....I brought that up because "What, it's out of the realm of believability/possibility that a child of ______ race could be left to be raised by wolves or apes?"
Why is it an issue?
Sure I get the whole "Why are tribal folks seen as idiots?" question, I get that, but the "That character really should be ____ race" meeeeh, the author of the book didn't seem to think so.
Besides, I do not believe that the idea of a black/African Tarzan would be hailed as something great, I believe quite the opposite would be true.
Feral children in India has occured and is an extension of that premise.
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Feral children in India has occured and is an extension of that premise.
'The Jungle Book' .....based on a true story :rolleyes:
.... @Master, I'm sure that has happened, I'm sure it's happened to people who aren't Indian, AND I'm certain that's not the point I was going for
If Tarzan or Mowgli was black/African then there would be charges of racism and the autistic screeching would be deafening
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I watched Get Out yesterday - proper old school drama / horror
well worth a watch
I enjoyed that movie. Highlights many prejudices.
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Watched The Train to Busan last night. Ho..ly shit! Maybe it was the late hour but that was top notch brutal. Everything World War Z was supposed to be but better.
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X Men Apocalypse was a good film, loved it.
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X Men Apocalypse was a good film, loved it.
Yeah I loved it too. Especially that Quick Silver scene at the mansion. The whole movie reminded me of the old animated series. Reminded me what I loved about the X-Men.
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X Men Apocalypse was a good film, loved it.
Yeah I loved it too. Especially that Quick Silver scene at the mansion. The whole movie reminded me of the old animated series. Reminded me what I loved about the X-Men.
Quicksilver was very funny and I have not watched all of days of future past yet but he is good in that too. I am a big Marvel geek and so are my kids now so looking forward to Thor 3 with Hulk in and Avengers 3 with Thanos.
Guardians look good too but not even watched the first film yet.
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Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - It wasn't as good as the first one, but Drax and Baby Groot are brilliant
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The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou ....there's nothing to hate on in that movie, it's a great film.
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Watched Jason Bourne and was not too impressed. Matt Damon has got older but the storyline was not good and the action unrealistic, predictable and too contrived. They need to call it a day for the franchise.
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Watched Jason Bourne and was not too impressed. Matt Damon has got older but the storyline was not good and the action unrealistic, predictable and too contrived. They need to call it a day for the franchise.
You take that back!! Prick.
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Watched Jason Bourne and was not too impressed. Matt Damon has got older but the storyline was not good and the action unrealistic, predictable and too contrived. They need to call it a day for the franchise.
You take that back!! Prick.
I knew you would be upset at that post.
notice Sky movies are doing a Matt Damon month of films. You must be creaming your pants.
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Watched Jason Bourne and was not too impressed. Matt Damon has got older but the storyline was not good and the action unrealistic, predictable and too contrived. They need to call it a day for the franchise.
I actually enjoyed it but agree the franchise has run it's course.
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X Men Apocalypse was a good film, loved it.
Yeah I loved it too. Especially that Quick Silver scene at the mansion. The whole movie reminded me of the old animated series. Reminded me what I loved about the X-Men.
Quicksilver was very funny and I have not watched all of days of future past yet but he is good in that too. I am a big Marvel geek and so are my kids now so looking forward to Thor 3 with Hulk in and Avengers 3 with Thanos.
Guardians look good too but not even watched the first film yet.
Some of the Marvel stuff is good. I like how the TV stuff ties into the movies.
I re-watched Red 1 & 2 as the 1st time I saw them I didn't realize the chick is from Weeds. She's so hot.
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Watched Jason Bourne and was not too impressed. Matt Damon has got older but the storyline was not good and the action unrealistic, predictable and too contrived. They need to call it a day for the franchise.
I actually enjoyed it but agree the franchise has run it's course.
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Master
X Men Apocalypse was a good film, loved it.
Yeah I loved it too. Especially that Quick Silver scene at the mansion. The whole movie reminded me of the old animated series. Reminded me what I loved about the X-Men.
Quicksilver was very funny and I have not watched all of days of future past yet but he is good in that too. I am a big Marvel geek and so are my kids now so looking forward to Thor 3 with Hulk in and Avengers 3 with Thanos.
Guardians look good too but not even watched the first film yet.
Some of the Marvel stuff is good. I like how the TV stuff ties into the movies.
I re-watched Red 1 & 2 as the 1st time I saw them I didn't realize the chick is from Weeds. She's so hot.
You are new to the forum but without pictures we can not agree this.
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A dogs purpose - I fucking love Bailey. The Dog Horse bit was genuinly funny.
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Powers Boothe died today! Absolute underrated great actor if you ask me http://youtu.be/f0CSZxcmXfY
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Watched Alien: Covenant last night.
Enjoyed it, better than Prometheus and the silly Alien v Predator spin offs. Lots of suspense for the first half, without crash bang wallop horror, great sense of foreboding throughout the film.
its a tough ask for the director, he has to somehow refresh the series while at the same time including and being true to various parts of the film canon (civilian ship in space, mysterious signal, ridiculous disregard for quarantine procedures, skulking alien creeping around, people going off on their own, strong female hero character)
Definitely a film worth watching.
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Incidentally, has anybody seen a film called 'Predestination'?
Watch it, well made with the wierdest most disturbing plot twist I have ever seen!!!
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Stanley Kubrick's 'Barry Lyndon' ....every scene is a fucking portrait, it is a beautiful piece of work
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Incidentally, has anybody seen a film called 'Predestination'?
Watch it, well made with the wierdest most disturbing plot twist I have ever seen!!!
That's the time traveling one with Ethan Hawke right? Yep that film is messed. Good watch tho.
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The missus caught on pretty early that it was him/ her/ whatever. EWWWW in love with yourself? OK then...
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Incidentally, has anybody seen a film called 'Predestination'?
Watch it, well made with the wierdest most disturbing plot twist I have ever seen!!!
That's the time traveling one with Ethan Hawke right? Yep that film is messed. Good watch tho.
SPOILER:
The missus caught on pretty early that it was him/ her/ whatever. EWWWW in love with yourself? OK then...
There is that film with Bruce Willis where they send people in the future to be killed and he finds out he is next. He ends up doing his own mum.
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Suicide Squad was ok for a DC movie. Will Smith was good as always and Harley Quinn was hot.
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Have been trying to watch X Men Apocalypse for roughly 4 days now ;D. Things keep coming up. Btw highly annoying to have film studio intros and titles take up over first 5+ minutes of a movie, any movie. The new Mummy looks pretty damn good. Poor Brendan Fraser must feel like someone stole his girlfriend.
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Watched Jack Reacher never go back and it was better than I thought it would be. I enjoyed it.
Jack helps a military colleague who is being framed. Also a side story is that he may have a daughter. His main enemy is a corrupt ex-soldier who is a nut and loves to kill.
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Man that was bad. Apocalypse was a big fail for me. Was part Raiders of the Lost Ark last crusade and part Mtv The real world: Season 1.
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The wife has me watching Orange is the New Black.....gotta say, I'm not a fan. You start off with your typical waspy gal who is kind of tippy toeing around being a "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" without being too too nuts about it, but then she just all out nose dives into a life of crime and absolutely idiotic decisions. The series is poorly written, ham handed (in your typical way: anti-God unless you're NOT Christian which typically doesn't bother me but HAM HANDED, can't stress that enough, all lesbians and gays and transgenders are amazingly wonderful good and virtuous, people from the South are dumb toothless meth addicts, and the Yankees are all street smart), and just typical of this era.....it's the laser like focus on the self featuring quirky neurosis from 'Girls' meets the OMG we're not in Kansas anymore shock and awe of 'Oz'.
Taylor Schilling is horrible or maybe it's the character she's playing....I'm not a fan.
As a man I'll just say.....there's a lot better things about women in prison out there to watch if you get my drift.
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Last movie I saw was Ghost in the Shell. Loved Scarlet :) The film is great too. Made me wish to watch anime version, though I don't like anime.
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For whatever reason ended up watching The Road again. That has to be one of the darkest movies I've seen. One where it ends and you just feel like going outside and smelling the air and rolling in the grass ;D:p.
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A movie called Sleight. Was decent. About a young street magician left to care for his little sister after their parents die, and turns to illegal activities to keep a roof over their heads.
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For whatever reason ended up watching The Road again. That has to be one of the darkest movies I've seen. One where it ends and you just feel like going outside and smelling the air and rolling in the grass ;D:p.
Never really did a lot for me that didn't, having said that it took me about 3 attempts to get through the book as well.
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Jason Bourne was alright, but kind of repetitive following the same formula as the last films. The action scenes have become too much now and it is ending up like James Bond which I absolutely loathe with a passion almost beyond description. They are talking about making another, but I hope they don't. The first 3 were all excellent, but this one pushed the formula too far. In the second film he hurts, he slows down, but in this one he falls off buildings, can handle dumbells being thrown at his head, can crash into buildings at force at impossible angles. I mean I am sure they can't teach these at the 'Black Ops Invincible Academy'. I know, I know "It's only a movie", but I need my movies like this to be somewhat grounded. I want to believe in the character and that means he has to be human. The first one did that best, but the second and third really expanded the world very well. It's not a bad film by any means, but it's not as good as the original trilogy.
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Jason Bourne was alright, but kind of repetitive following the same formula as the last films. The action scenes have become too much now and it is ending up like James Bond which I absolutely loathe with a passion almost beyond description. They are talking about making another, but I hope they don't. The first 3 were all excellent, but this one pushed the formula too far. In the second film he hurts, he slows down, but in this one he falls off buildings, can handle dumbells being thrown at his head, can crash into buildings at force at impossible angles. I mean I am sure they can't teach these at the 'Black Ops Invincible Academy'. I know, I know "It's only a movie", but I need my movies like this to be somewhat grounded. I want to believe in the character and that means he has to be human. The first one did that best, but the second and third really expanded the world very well. It's not a bad film by any means, but it's not as good as the original trilogy.
movies are basically PISS.
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Jason Bourne was alright, but kind of repetitive following the same formula as the last films. The action scenes have become too much now and it is ending up like James Bond which I absolutely loathe with a passion almost beyond description. They are talking about making another, but I hope they don't. The first 3 were all excellent, but this one pushed the formula too far. In the second film he hurts, he slows down, but in this one he falls off buildings, can handle dumbells being thrown at his head, can crash into buildings at force at impossible angles. I mean I am sure they can't teach these at the 'Black Ops Invincible Academy'. I know, I know "It's only a movie", but I need my movies like this to be somewhat grounded. I want to believe in the character and that means he has to be human. The first one did that best, but the second and third really expanded the world very well. It's not a bad film by any means, but it's not as good as the original trilogy.
movies are basically PISS.
Most are whence I am very selective about what I watch. The Bourne films are usually very strong.
Also rewatched American Beauty which still holds up well. The character who films everything and thinks everything is beautiful was just pretentious and silly. The rest of it was really strong though. Blends pathos and humour very well. I really enjoyed Jane's responses to her weird parents. It's a good film. The only normal characters seem to be the gay couple.
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I don't like james bond either
the old ones are alright, takes me back to my childhood, bit tongue in cheek, but the new ones are well shit
actually I wouldn't know about the new new ones because I stopped watching about 5 films ago
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I watched Dunkirk with my eldest son on Sunday and thought it was really good
best film I have seen in a while
well worth the £30 I spent on 2 tickets, a hot dog, some popcorn and a large coke
£3 on parking too
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I don't like james bond either
the old ones are alright, takes me back to my childhood, bit tongue in cheek, but the new ones are well shit
actually I wouldn't know about the new new ones because I stopped watching about 5 films ago
Old school Bond was alright for watching on a boring Sunday afternoon, new Bonds are ok but they take themselves far too seriously.
They all seem to meld into one another as well.
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Watched I Daniel Blake today. It was very good, but extremely bleak. If that film is in any way a real depiction of life in the UK today, then I am upset and angry. Some of it was too close to the bone for me reminding me of my childhood. Very grim film with a very sad ending. The poor bloke had a heart attack and was given nothing but the runaround and denial until his heart just couldn't take it anymore. Britain, you are fucked up, mate. Killing him and turning another woman to shoplifting and prostitution. Does that really have to be the way out of it? :mad::rolleyes:
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Watched I Daniel Blake today. It was very good, but extremely bleak. If that film is in any way a real depiction of life in the UK today, then I am upset and angry. Some of it was too close to the bone for me reminding me of my childhood. Very grim film with a very sad ending. The poor bloke had a heart attack and was given nothing but the runaround and denial until his heart just couldn't take it anymore. Britain, you are fucked up, mate. Killing him and turning another woman to shoplifting and prostitution. Does that really have to be the way out of it? :mad::rolleyes:
Good film, and yes, a fair depiction of some peoples lives and circumstances. It's got to be said though, they wrapped up two pretty compelling cases and presented them as the norm to make for a hard hitting film. I've seen first hand someone being given the runaround by DWP, and also someone being essentially forced to go and live hundreds of miles away where they know nothing or no one. That said, in my experience, the 'norm' where housing and benefits is concerned, is that it's quite a cushy caper. For every person I can think of who's been pushed from pillar to post by the council/DWP, I can think of at least half a dozen that have had things pretty easy. Coining it in with benefits. Using social housing (right to buy) to essentially build up enough dough to buy a 'proper' house.
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i dunno anyone whos heart has given way due to the lack of medical care or anyone turning to shoplifting or prostitution and I live in Britain