Just rewatched Pacquaio-JMM 1

High you figure Pac wasn't in his prime against JMM? How is JMM past his prime? i've never heard this before today.

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Originally Posted by The Boxer

High you figure Pac wasn't in his prime against JMM? How is JMM past his prime? i've never heard this before today.

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Pac was left hand happy back then against JMM. Morales benifited from that fight and defeated Pac. EM used Pac-JMM blueprint.

I noticed JMM's reflex was starting to slow down a bit against Jaca. He won that fight by KO btw, I gotta give him that. His punching power has deteriorated and have been brawling more lately. His fights with MAB and Juarez are very indicative of that.

i'll give you JMM being past it a little, but Pac was prime when they fought.

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

Do you know that JMM didnt want an immediate rematch dont you?

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Funny Miron those followers of JMM and the JMM camp says the compete opposite. Unless someone can provide actual truth to the issue it should not be tossed around as a given that it was JMM that avoided the rematch. That is unless you have concrete facts / evidence.

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Originally Posted by The Boxer

i'll give you JMM being past it a little, but Pac was prime when they fought.

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That's your opinion. I can live with it.:)

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Originally Posted by brucelee

Hahaha.I could be Roach, Pacstraight is Arum and Julius is Pacquaio himself. PAcfan..... you are?????;D

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ARA MINA!!!

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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing

Funny Miron those followers of JMM and the JMM camp says the compete opposite. Unless someone can provide actual truth to the issue it should not be tossed around as a given that it was JMM that avoided the rematch. That is unless you have concrete facts / evidence.

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I believe the rematch was offered to Marquez but instead he fought Chris John for only 50k and got robbed in Indonesia.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I believe the rematch was offered to Marquez but instead he fought Chris John for only 50k and got robbed in Indonesia.

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addicted to boxing, that should be enough fact for you. Ice is one of the most accurate and detail poster around even though his still a young pup like me. Ice knows a lot about boxing and what goes around boxing. His not a pac fan by the way, but he'll tell you the truth. That there is not any bias statement. That came from a nuetral guy cause his a fan of jmm more so then of pac.

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Originally Posted by The Boxer

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

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Yes he kd jmm three times, yes jmm came back to win most of the rounds after that and yes many though jmm won the fight (jmm fan ofcourse). Everything you said has already been thought about and heard of, what was it that was suppose to be especial for us to think about? how can we be sure pac can finish jmm off this time around?

well if you know boxing, everything points to jmm getting stop.

The first fight was jmms best performance, and it only got him a draw. If you want to talk technically, you can ask the judge that mis-scored it. He apologize for his mistake. He admit pac should of won sd. although jmm put up a great fight he didn't win that fight. Pac won enough to still win. It was a hill jmm just couldn't climb.

Another big factor, pac was one demensional then. Since you don't agree pac wasn't prime then. Well do you think pac is still one demensional now?

Keep it coming, I like replying to you more than addicted to boxing cause you seem like you have a bit more sense then that retard. ;)

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Originally Posted by The Boxer

so are you saying JMM didn't get any better.

i'm gonna say this to give you Pac fans something to think about. PAC knock JMM down 3 times in the 1st round and JMM comes back to make it an extreemly close fight. fight many including myself felt he won. what makes you so sure that he can finish him? he couldn't do it then. i'm gonna re watch the fight with in the next week so i can tell you exactly how JMM will win.

this fight should have happen at least 3 years ago.

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Because Marquez is brawling much more than he used to, even though he is a surperb counter puncher he seems to want to get stuck in much more than he used to. Marquez can win many ways by using the straight right hand which is a southpaw's biggest weakness and one of Marquez's best punches. In fact i know this may sound strange but i think he should abandon the jab because its hard to deal with the southpaw jab. And he should just lead with straight right hands IMO. He needs to take a step back when Pacquiao is on the offensive then counter, he also needs to time Pacquiao's bobbing and weaving, Pacquiao may have faster hands but have you ever heard the old saying timing beats speed ?? Marquez can also step outside Pacquiao's lead leg and force him to move in a direction that is against Pacquiao's natural power. It all depends on how Marquez approaches this fight, Pacquiao has improved since there first meeting and has much more array of punches, where as Marquez has been brawling much more which doesn't bode well for Marquez, but im still going with my boy Marquez pulling off a tough UD, 115-113, 116-112, 115-113. I think Marquez has what it takes to beat Pacquiao *Style Wise* lets just see if he can execute it.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Because Marquez is brawling much more than he used to, even though he is a surperb counter puncher he seems to want to get stuck in much more than he used to. Marquez can win many ways by using the straight right hand which is a southpaw's biggest weakness and one of Marquez's best punches. In fact i know this may sound strange but i think he should abandon the jab because its hard to deal with the southpaw jab. And he should just lead with straight right hands IMO. He needs to take a step back when Pacquiao is on the offensive then counter, he also needs to time Pacquiao's bobbing and weaving, Pacquiao may have faster hands but have you ever heard the old saying timing beats speed ?? Marquez can also step outside Pacquiao's lead leg and force him to move in a direction that is against Pacquiao's natural power. It all depends on how Marquez approaches this fight, Pacquiao has improved since there first meeting and has much more array of punches, where as Marquez has been brawling much more which doesn't bode well for Marquez, but im still going with my boy Marquez pulling off a tough UD, 115-113, 116-112, 115-113. I think Marquez has what it takes to beat Pacquiao *Style Wise* lets just see if he can execute it.

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We still have our bet right ??, My opinion has changed from Pac points to Pac KO ;)

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Originally Posted by leftylee

We still have our bet right ??, My opinion has changed from Pac points to Pac KO ;)

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hey wait a minute, you two timing whore!!!! :mad:

we have a bet too, and your going with jmm now i find out you have another bet with ice and your going with pac? you dirty bastard! :mad:

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

hey wait a minute, you two timing whore!!!! :mad:

we have a bet too, and your going with jmm now i find out you have another bet with ice and your going with pac? you dirty bastard! :mad:

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I'm only teasing my filipino friend, ICB won't accept anyway ;)

The bet with you is still on.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

I'm only teasing my filipino friend, ICB won't accept anyway ;)

The bet with you is still on.

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:lolololol:

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

:lolololol:

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CHECK YOUR PM AND LEFTY WILL EXPLAIN ALL!!!! ;D