BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

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08-17-2013, 10:51 PM
imp

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The ref stopped the fight...then sat him down and let the fight carry on.

Shoulda been stopped right there...I mean fuck you're in there with a dude who saddly tragically is part of an in the ring death, why fucking risk getting seriously injured.

Never seen that before!

He stopped the fight..sat him down (whilst the other team are celebrating) and frank warren is standing up barking out orders!

So corrupt.
08-17-2013, 10:51 PM
Spicoli

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

John David Jackson has been good for Kovalev. Doesn't try to turn him into something he's not. Kovalev is a knock out fighter. And they go for the knock out

Tremendous mind to have in a corner. I like that he boxes first and the power just rolls off. Very calculated with great punch variation all set up.
08-17-2013, 10:51 PM
IamInuit

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

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Originally Posted by imp

The ref stopped the fight...then sat him down and let the fight carry on.

Yup. His cockiness crawled up and bit him in the ass. It was my biggest fear for him going in.
08-17-2013, 10:52 PM
Gandalf

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

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I'm disappointed with that performance. Cleverly just had no idea what to do and was flopping around like a fish. The commentator talks about granite chins, but a granite chinned fighter doesn't get stopped in 4. If anything Cleverly perhaps reminds me more of Enzo Mac rather than Joe Calzaghe. :-\

A terrible showing and you have a hard time seeing Cleverly doing all that much now that the chin has been checked.

I think you have to give Kovalev a bit more credit. Yes Cleverly didn't box to plan but he was never going to be Joe. Kovalev is VERY good. Cleverlys dad is a dick.

No, fair play to him and his power is clearly unpleasant, but Cleverly never really showed any gears or versatility. He started cautiously and as soon as he was hurt he lost it. He could have retreated and tried to survive the 3rd round and just clear his head, but instead he got himself brained and in boxing you have to have savvy otherwise you are just another number, which might well turn out to be the case. I just think it is such a shame.

It's sad that Cleverly is more Enzo Mac than Joe Calzaghe. He was utterly. Still, you are right Kovalev deserves his credit and though I don't think he can box especially well, he will fuck you up given the slightest sniff. If anything Hopkins should avoid this fight, but it would be fascinating to see if he can play the matador.
08-17-2013, 10:53 PM
imp

Anyone must be crazy to compare him to calzaghe.

JC would have been too quick and smart but who knows of the outcome.

Makes you appreciate JC as a boxer regardless of the fights he might have missed.
08-17-2013, 10:53 PM
IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

John David Jackson has been good for Kovalev. Doesn't try to turn him into something he's not. Kovalev is a knock out fighter. And they go for the knock out

Much better rounded then I thought he would be based on what I had seen previously.
08-17-2013, 10:54 PM
Gandalf

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

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I'm just glad you cunts that kept comparing him with Calzaghe can now shut the fuck up.

In terms of the output and combinations, there were comparisons. However, Calzaghe really had a great chin and was much more versatile, intelligent and savvy. Only Calzaghe can ever be Calzaghe. He was the best SMW of all time.
08-17-2013, 10:55 PM
armin

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I'm disappointed with that performance. Cleverly just had no idea what to do and was flopping around like a fish. The commentator talks about granite chins, but a granite chinned fighter doesn't get stopped in 4. If anything Cleverly perhaps reminds me more of Enzo Mac rather than Joe Calzaghe. :-\

A terrible showing and you have a hard time seeing Cleverly doing all that much now that the chin has been checked.

I think you have to give Kovalev a bit more credit. Yes Cleverly didn't box to plan but he was never going to be Joe. Kovalev is VERY good. Cleverlys dad is a dick.

No, fair play to him and his power is clearly unpleasant, but Cleverly never really showed any gears or versatility. He started cautiously and as soon as he was hurt he lost it. He could have retreated and tried to survive the 3rd round and just clear his head, but instead he got himself brained and in boxing you have to have savvy otherwise you are just another number, which might well turn out to be the case. I just think it is such a shame.

It's sad that Cleverly is more Enzo Mac than Joe Calzaghe. He was utterly. Still, you are right Kovalev deserves his credit and though I don't think he can box especially well, he will fuck you up given the slightest sniff. If anything Hopkins should avoid this fight, but it would be fascinating to see if he can play the matador.

What makes you say he can't box well??? Granted all his fights almost end up by ko within three, but he rarely looses a round actually. He's not a crude brawler and say what you want that clev wasn't himself or some shit he not only got kod he got outboxed and outworked.
08-17-2013, 10:56 PM
Fenster

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

Game plan - just keep your hands up, let him hit you, he's never gone past 8 and will fold.

Bernard Hopkins said about Cleverly - he doesn't understand defense, he just blocks punches with his arms. Respect.
08-17-2013, 10:56 PM
imp

Adonis stevenson
Andre ward
Hopkins.

These are the opponents that he needs to fight next...hopefully chad dawson can bounce back..
08-17-2013, 10:59 PM
armin

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Game plan - just keep your hands up, let him hit you, he's never gone past 8 and will fold.

Bernard Hopkins said about Cleverly - he doesn't understand defense, he just blocks punches with his arms. Respect.

Issue is when ya punch like kovalev it don't matter if the dude has his hands up, in the first round his hand were up yet his had was still snapping back.

Haha just actually got what ya sayin
08-17-2013, 11:00 PM
imp

Who was saying that FROCH would loose to cleverly?
08-17-2013, 11:05 PM
ryanman

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

Fuck the stepping stones, Kovalev vs Ward now.
08-17-2013, 11:05 PM
Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by imp

Anyone must be crazy to compare him to calzaghe.

JC would have been too quick and smart but who knows of the outcome.

Makes you appreciate JC as a boxer regardless of the fights he might have missed.

Kovalev would need to be 40 years old before Calzaghe gets in the ring with him
08-17-2013, 11:06 PM
ryanman

Re: BOXNATION - RED MIST - Cleverly v Kovalev Saturday Night Fight CHAT THREAD

Not that it would have made a difference tonight, but for his future career Clev needs a proper trainer.

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