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Where do you find the post fight presser?
They must have known he wasn't what he was before but they thought fuck it, let's give it what we've got.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
A man who has cashed out mentally does not stand and slug repeatedly and get off the canvas multiple times. Listen to me...sounding like I know when a fighter gives up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingWhy not? He's not made of money. He's a long time retired. He wouldn't be the first guy to cash in on his name would he? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFighter knows himself beyond a corner or yesmen, for sure. Boxers fight for money and prize fighting. But the way he has conducted himself in and out of the ring...fighting when hit, hurt and down on numerous occasions...I cannot buy at all he cashed out and doubted himself. No need for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI think that's a stretch, he doesn't strike the sort to simply come in for payday. His pride and ego have gotten him in trouble prior and its taken the post injury to make him see the extent of it. But he sure as shat didn't just come in for a pension and excepting hes at the endQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe's making money. Him and his people knew his knees weren't up to it coming into this fight but this is a big pension payday for him. You can't blame him. He hasn't got the movement he once had and is getting wobbled by punches he wouldn't have taken pre injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
All over.
You've forgotten more about boxing that I know but they must have known his mobility wasn't what it was before. Maybe once he'd signed the contract he didn't want to back out in case he'd have to pay previous earned money out or he thought it'd be alright on the night.
He's a long time retired though. The payday must have played into the calculations.
Mayweather-Cotto on deck.
Cotto is the hottest property in boxing right now. Mayweather and Alvarez will both be after the next fight. $$$$$. He hasn't signed to Top Rank has he? He's still a free agent after this fight?
If you fight you get paid, and I don't blame him for grabbing this last payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I didn't see the fight but from what you guys described, Martinez was dead in the water, no steering, no power, and no fuel.
I'll remember him the way he looked In the second Williams fight.
Good for Cotto, I hope he makes the the most of his win.
I like both those fighters and wasn't looking forward to seeing either one of them losing.
For sure, you fight to get paid, and I don't have an issue with that. It was just a shock to see how bad Martinez looked. Martinez literally had no legs and I presume the Cotto team knew that would be so. That first round was odd, he had no coordination in those legs, and it just looked wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedIf you fight you get paid, and I don't blame him for grabbing this last payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I didn't see the fight but from what you guys described, Martinez was dead in the water, no steering, no power, and no fuel.
I'll remember him the way he looked In the second Williams fight.
Good for Cotto, I hope he makes the the most of his win.
I like both those fighters and wasn't looking forward to seeing either one of them losing.
Fair play to Cotto looking sharp and making no mistakes, but I don't think Martinez would have looked even average against most top fighters in this state. It was very apparent how much those legs have meant to his career. A year is a long time and in boxing terms a year is a lifetime and multiple surgeries and age is the story of this fight rather than Cotto being a new MW superhero.
I think it's safe to say Martinez was not at 100% without shitting all over Cotto's superb effort. No one forced Sergio to take the fight. In all appearances leading up to the fight, Sergio pronounced himself much more ready physically than for the Murray fight. True, there's gonna be a bit of "poker hand" playing in there... but he didn't come into the fight on crutches. And Cotto didn't punch Martinez in the knee. He beat the shit out of him in the very first round. It was clear that Martinez was not expecting to be hit that hard by Cotto. Miguel employed every tool in his arsenal. Power, speed, boxing skills... everything. And credit must be given to Roach. He appears to be getting the best out of Cotto, whose career has been revitalized.
It's too damn easy to dismiss a fighter's great moments by trashing the quality of the other guy. But Sergio is a full-blown middleweight, with the speed and the power to have knocked out many a fellow middleweight. Yes... he's near the end of his career. Yes, his knee has never been the same. This is hardly Cotto's fault. As for Cotto "picking"... give me a break. You can make just as much a case for Martinez picking. Cotto is a welterweight body fighting in the middleweight division. And yet he showed the power to hurt a Sergio that has been hit by much bigger guys.
So how about a bow to both guys? Sergio showed nothing but class after the fight, refusing to blame his knee. Instead, his cornerman did it for him. Yeah... the knee acted up on him. Probably helped along by the barrage of punches Cotto rained on him from the very first round.
Cotto for sure looks great, but Martinez was ripe for the picking at this point in his career and I think we all know that. He's had too many injuries and taken way too much punishment in his last few fights.
Only saw the 1st 3 rounds. 1st round KDs came from nothing punches. Cotto fought well but Martinez had nothin left. Shame. I'd say Alvarez will go for Cotto next.
Martinez is done. Props to cotto but Sergio flight like a straight bitxh. Cotto deserved a win and Sergio earned a retirement.
Martinez is one of my favorites fighters he was great in he's prime. Taking nothing for Cotto he had a great game plan and look better then he ever has and he deserved the win great showing by him. He has big pay day fights set up for him now. Great fight by him
Oh how sour the grapes are. People picked against Cotto regardless of Martinez's issues and now that he got thumped he's shot. People claimed Cotto was more shot then he was but now that Cotto kicked his ass .....bla bla bla.
Martinez looked to be 100% to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
No and I said on many occasion on here that the past of both evened this fight out but now that the wrong guy won its only the one that lost who was long in the tooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMartinez looked to be 100% to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Martinez issue was hes knees which has nothing to do with the way he couldnt get away from Cottos left hook. Almost every hook he threw landed and Martinez could do nothing to get away from it. Even if he was 100% Cotto would still be landing those hooks. He was aggressive when he had to be and patient when he had to be. Props to Cotto. Hope Martinez retires he had a late start and still manged to have a great career great fighter lots of heart for wanting to stay in it.
Well clearly we didnt know how shot he was! He had surgery, I thought he would recover. I was wrong, his legs were gone, his movement was poor, and he got KD with glancing shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNo and I said on many occasion on here that the past of both evened this fight out but now that the wrong guy won its only the one that lost who was long in the tooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMartinez looked to be 100% to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Dammit, sounds like I missed quite a fight. :-\
Just found out the result a few minutes ago.
Like we discussed, it was an intriguing match-up and difficult to predict because of all the variables.