Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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brocktonblockbust
Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea and Ethiopia.......
Everybody knows it but people are too chicken to say except for Donald Trump. Those countries are absolute cesspools.
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea and Ethiopia.......
Everybody knows it but people are too chicken to say except for Donald Trump. Those countries are absolute cesspools.
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
they fought for power and money of course big D, next question
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea and Ethiopia.......
Everybody knows it but people are too chicken to say except for Donald Trump. Those countries are absolute cesspools.
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
they fought for power and money of course big D, next question
So what are you saying ?
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea and Ethiopia.......
Everybody knows it but people are too chicken to say except for Donald Trump. Those countries are absolute cesspools.
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
they fought for power and money of course big D, next question
So what are you saying ?
I answered your question straight out, you asked why they fought, i told u, what else can I say
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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walrus
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DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea and Ethiopia.......
Everybody knows it but people are too chicken to say except for Donald Trump. Those countries are absolute cesspools.
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
they fought for power and money of course big D, next question
So what are you saying ?
I answered your question straight out, you asked why they fought, i told u, what else can I say
So what makes you say that Mandela, Steve Biko and Kwame Nkrumah fought for power and money ?
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
DENILSON how desperate are you?
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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DenilsonTheReturn
So if Africa is a sh*thole then why did they have to fight white supremacists Euro's to get out of there ?
Why all the trouble in South Africa and black people taken there land back ? Why the global outcry ? If according to you that it's sh*hole.
Why the hatred towards Mugabe in Zimbabwe when he was trying to take the land back ? If according to you, that it's a sh*hole.
Why the Mandelas ? Steve Bikos ? Kwame Knrumah ? Why did they give there lives for African independence and fight against white colonial rule if it's (as you say) as sh*thole ?
A lot of empires left Africa willingly...England bid adieu to South Africa due to the burden of the Crimean War. The Brits won South Africa (which wasn't a nation until it was made a nation) from the Dutch who wanted a route for spices.
Africa has a lot of valuable natural resources.....but the governments who rule there are inept, brutal, and for whatever reason unable to accomplish the very basics....but yes I know, I know, Africa was the greatest bestest most wonderful ever place and there were libraries and wonderful things....where is this stuff now? Where's the technology? Where's the economic success? Where are the brilliant African leaders? All I see are despots....idiot despots at that. Mugabe said he was taking the land from the white farmers and then OMG a food shortage happened (HOW THE HELL?!?!?! But you just took the land from the white folks and food fell from the sky like manna for them!!!!) and so he begged to have them come back. This idiot in South Africa is going to do the very same, kill the Boer farmers who have farmed the land and provided food for HUNDREDS of years and what do you figure will happen? OOOOH I know, there will be flying cars and it'll be all like Wakanda and everything.
Africa is still being colonized only more these days by Russia and China.
2 African nations have not suffered colonization: Ethiopia which was colonized by Italy for a couple of years (like from 1936 to 1941, hardly a generation) and Liberia which was land bought by the United States and given to freed slaves who of course in turn started up a caste system because why not? :dontknow: ....and the amount of aid given to Liberia from the United States, my God.....but again I don't expect them to be leading the way in production or tourism or nonviolence or cracking down on corruption or you know anything good or positive in general anytime soon.
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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El Kabong
The Brits won South Africa (which wasn't a nation until it was made a nation) from the Dutch who wanted a route for spices.
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I know you like history Lyle ........
There were Dutch settlers in South Africa, but they were not backed by or part of the Dutch State. A minority were traders from the Dutch East Indies company, but they were very few in numbers.
The majority of Dutch were farmers, fleeing religious persecution in Holland. Independent minded, tough and resourceful. Very similar to the first US settlers I imagine.
These settlers, or Voortrekkers, migrated independently and eventually made (and broke) several treaties with the powerful and dominant Zulu who allowed them to settle in Zulu territory.
Some of them set up a small independent enclave called the Orange Free State. There was some conflict, but the Zulu were much too powerful for the settlers to properly subjugate or conquer, and the Zulu - who could have easily wiped them out - were content for the Boers to peacefully stay there as long as they paid annual tribute to the Zulu.
Descendants of these Dutch trekkers evolved into today's Boer Afrikaners, and their language is still similar to Dutch and Flemish
The British came along later, firstly as settlers too, but later as representatives of Victoria's State.
They decided they wanted to annex the whole territory so they firstly constricted the Boers economically until the Free State reluctantly accepted British dominion.
They then invented cause for a war with the Zulu, which king Cetshwayo did not want. Despite the famous defeat at Isandhlwana, they eventually defeated the Zulu at Ulundi and created a new 'South Africa' under British rule.
Later, the Dutch rebelled in the Boer Wars, where the British invented concentration camps. The Zulu also rebelled and were pacified by being granted large autonomies within Zululand and a guarantee that their monarchy would be protected. Those guarantees still exist in today's South Africa.
Zimbabwe, which was next door, is a whole different story ..... Mzilikazi, the renegade Zulu general who founded the Matabele Kingdom, the Shona Wars, Cecil Rhodes and the East India Company, revolution and civil war, a blossoming during and after independence, and then a descent into corruption, dictatorship and poverty.
Fascinating histories.
If anybody is interested; search for the book "The Washing of the Spears"
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
That would explain why the white South African rugby players were so big.
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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El Kabong
A lot of empires left Africa willingly
Willingly ? Like what ?
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El Kabong
The Brits won South Africa (which wasn't a nation until it was made a nation) from the Dutch who wanted a route for spices.
Black settlement in South Africa predated European by hundreds of years. Blacks had displaced Khoikhoi as far as the Fish river before Europeans first rounded the Cape. Bantus were in the areas currently occupied by the Zulu people as early as 250 BCE.
Also it's not just about farmland. You ignore the hundreds of thousands of blk ppl who were forcibly removed from urban areas. We are talking about home owners who had their land confiscated and their houses bulldozed because the area was declared whites only.
But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.
But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.
Even if (And this is a massive if) whites SA's hijacked the entire SA military, there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.
As to the rest of the world's reaction:
This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago.
As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them
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El Kabong
Africa has a lot of valuable natural resources.
Which is under the control of the white supremacists
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El Kabong
but the governments who rule there are inept, brutal, and for whatever reason unable to accomplish the very basics
Coming from a white yank and he's talking about brutality ?
Really ? But what governments are you talking about ?
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El Kabong
....but yes I know, I know, Africa was the greatest bestest most wonderful ever place and there were libraries and wonderful things
Isn't this were you say
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El Kabong
....where is this stuff now?
White supremacy and gunpowder.
African armies were only defeated when the Europeans got access to gunpowder. Marco Polo brought it back to Europe, and whites immediately started using it to kill people with.
White people have something going for them that black people don't to the same extent.
Whites love to kill.
In Africa, they generally kill for food. In Europe, they kill for sport.
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You have a white supremacist who majored in physics and what does he do ?
He think's "well if I cut an an atom in half, which in turn cuts other atoms in half and so on. I can make a nuclear bomb that would kill thousands and thousands"
Who thinks like that ? Fking crazy. The white supremacist (like you) thinks like that.
And even then white Europeans never did a Rambo on Africa (At First)
The came in as friends, with smiles. That's the tactic they still use to Today with the Red Cross, Oxfam and missionaries (A bag of rice for a bag of diamonds)
But there is no question that whites used to gunpowder to take over the world. That meant they could shoot and kill someone from distance. Rather up close and personal, Sword with Sword.
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El Kabong
Where's the technology? Where's the economic success?
This assumes that white supremacists would be fine with technology advanced black economic powerhouse in Africa that was not under there thumb.
Look at Rosewood in the early part of the last century
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Here was a thriving black community living independent of whites, yet was burned to the ground by white supremacists.
Not 2 mention Bruce’s Beach, Black Wall Street, Bronzeville in Chicago and Black Baltimore during the days of sailing ships all show a pattern of White officials making extraordinary efforts to cut black business development off at the knees.
Black degradation is essential 2 White supremacists.
Thriving Black business districts and strong Black communities would expose the lie at the heart of White Supremacy ideology.
The Tulsa Riot in the early part of the last century.
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Same again. Thriving black community. Blew up by white ppl with the aid of the US government.
Growth of ones own country can't happen in isolation. It has to be within an agreed shared global structure which includes everyone. While the ideology and controlling structure of white supremacy remains firmly in place, restrictions will ultimately always apply to black nations.
Its no different to slaves growing their own independent business on the plantation. Sooner or later if its successful the master will want a cut of any of the profits or control of it. Eventually either dominating it completely, eliminating it to avoid unfavorable competition or even having it challenge the plantation slave institution itself.
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El Kabong
Where are the brilliant African leaders? All I see are despots....idiot despots at that.
You (or should I say white supremacist kill them all)
One only has to look at the likes of Colonel Gaddifi who was trying to create a central african bank and an african communication network in Africa. Africa is a massive source for mobile phone networks and internet. Africans make billions for the white supremacists. Gaddifi plan went against there wishes just as would have an African bank. So he had to be killed
Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.
The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.
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El Kabong
Mugabe said he was taking the land from the white farmers and then OMG a food shortage happened (HOW THE HELL?!?!?! But you just took the land from the white folks and food fell from the sky like manna for them!!!!) and so he begged to have them come back.
Yeah black people in Zim are gonna starve because growing crops and mechanized agriculture is such a complicated science.
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As long as USAID, IMG and World Bank don't try and send in there economic hitmen. Black people will be al right.
And the land is NOT just for Agriculture only but other forms of development including Mining, Infrastructure development, building malls n modern houses etc
Just be thankful I'm not running shit in SA. I'd open up the gates of hell on those robbing white supremacist bastards down there. I'd destroy them economically. I'd turn them into a total underclass. I'd make sure they're begging on the streets. I'd reduce them to nothing and then laugh and mock them for being in that position.
Do exactly to them as they delight in doing to us.
Also have you been to Zimbabwe of late ?
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All built and designed and run by black people and those were built AFTER independence.
And this was done despite the deep hyper-inflation that was ravaging their economy because they starved for foreign exchange because Zimbabwe tried to return some of the vast, stolen land-holdings to Zimbabweans, since then the U.S, Britain, IMF, World Bank have waged a relentless economic almost psychotic war against the country.
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El Kabong
This idiot in South Africa is going to do the very same, kill the Boer farmers who have farmed the land and provided food for HUNDREDS of years and what do you figure will happen? OOOOH I know, there will be flying cars and it'll be all like Wakanda and everything.
This thing about white SA. Whites around the world are like
"What ? We can't 100% exploit black ppl anymore ? We can't 100% shit on them ?. The world had ended ! That's all I live for ! Life is not worth living if white people are not stomping on black people ..............No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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South Africa was taken by the white man in blood and must be returned in blood. Whites in SA can still work for black farmers as field hands and laborers for minimum wage.
What they are doing is right.
No white man is African.
The goal for black SA's is to break the white supremacists in SA's spirit. Black SA's should have a heart of stone towards white supremacists in S-A. In fact they should laugh and mock them, and deride them, the same way white supremacists do to black people. They should delight in white suffering. The same way they delight in black suffering. Give them in SA a heavy dose of what they love to dish out.
And that is what they are doing and I applaud them.
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Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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brocktonblockbust
Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people
How about Italians
Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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brocktonblockbust
Tell me when an Armenian exploited black people
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