Cotto vs Margarito - the rematch - Saturday night chat/fight thread

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by CFH

I'm not sure how I feel about the stoppage, but I find myself agreeing with Kellerman here.

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The only way Margarito was going to win before the fight was stopped, was by KO, and that wasn't likely to happen. Miguel seemed to have plenty left in the tank, and Margo looked to be worn down.

It's not hard to imagine now that Margo used loaded wraps in the 1st fight, he looked like a different fighter.

BTW, that right eye looks like it got re-injured.

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Yeah, the rational side of me understands that argument. I just think Cotto looked so vulnerable that Margarito - who I loathe - deserved the chance to keep going.

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The thing is, it wasn't just Margarito's eye, he didn't look to have a lot left, certainly not enough to make the fight all that competitive. It was simular in that respect to his fight with Pacquiao, which also could have been stopped, but wasn't. I wouldn't give the stoppage a second thought.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen Cotto continue beating on the cheatin' muther-fucker.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

This victory belongs to Pacquiao for fucking up that eye in November. This victory for Cotto is almost as meaningless as Trinidad's "victory" over De La Hoya.

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"Meaningless" maybe to graceless Margarito fans, who can't accept the fact that Miguel outboxed, outpunched, and outclassed (always) the cheating scumbag they cheer for.

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If you want to watch the post fight press conference, it's on now.

Fight Night - Top Rank Boxing

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Originally Posted by Diane

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nqwdpz.jpg

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Hilarious stuff Diane. Margarito is just a couple brain cells above being a total retard.

God how does Bob believe some the shit he is saying.

Cotto fought like a Cuban? WTF!!

The cheater is still being a dick in the post fight press conference. He said that he was going to finish Cotto. LMAO!!

OMG, he keeps insisting that this fight was just like the first fight, and that he was going to finish Cotto off in the last few rounds.

Not only is he a cheater and a liar, he's delusional.

I'm glad Cotto didn't make nice after the fight, like happens other times when the animosity is mostly staged for publicity. This was REAL dislike and disdain, and Cotto did the perfect thing by going over to the cheater's corner after the fight and just stare at him. No words needed be said.

This is for Miles i found this post, and it explains about the gauze better than i could.



Many of you have seen Cotto/Margarito 24/7 when Cotto was trying to explain Margarito's hand wraps but somewhat failed.

Here's the deal, GAUZE is suppose to be directly on the hands before anything else. Gauze is like silk wool, so it may tear but it doesn't CHIP away like dried up paint. After the Cotto fight you can see Margarito's gauze is CHIPPED away because its plaster and not actualy gauze.

Anybody who's had a cut on their hand and Gauze was used to cover up the difference, any anybody who's had say a fractured wrist and was put in a cast. Can tell the difference between the texture of wool gauze and plaster.

Go to 1:00 of this video this is what Cotto is trying to explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zXxfbQ4Hpg

I have seen the 24/7's and heard what Cotto has to say. I am not saying either way if Margarito is guilty or not as I don't know for sure, but what I do know is that I believe in life after crime and I believe Margarito is a decent fighter to watch.

I also somewhat agree with Margarito, though he wasn't quite breaking Cotto down like before, he did win the last round half blind and he was the stronger man at the time of the stoppage.

Imagine what a pre-Pac Margarito would have been like. Cotto wouldn't have been able to target a damaged eye and Margarito would have been even more ferocious. It's a shame Manny got to them both first and more so that Manny was able to inflict such damage.

An undamaged Margarito against Cotto is a much better fight. You get the feeling that the eye will close no matter who Margarito fights from here on out.

Cotto boxed well though and used what he could to get what he wanted. He clinched more and took advantage of a handicap.

I don't regard Cotto as the better of the two fighters though. Over 12 Margarito still gives Cotto kittens.

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Originally Posted by miles

I have seen the 24/7's and heard what Cotto has to say. I am not saying either way if Margarito is guilty or not as I don't know for sure, but what I do know is that I believe in life after crime and I believe Margarito is a decent fighter to watch.

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There's plenty of middle ground here for you and ICB. ICB doesn't understand how anyone could support him or root for him, and you say he's an entertaining fighter. You could compromise and enjoy watching him lose.

anyone have a link....I fell asleep ;D

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Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

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Originally Posted by miles

I have seen the 24/7's and heard what Cotto has to say. I am not saying either way if Margarito is guilty or not as I don't know for sure, but what I do know is that I believe in life after crime and I believe Margarito is a decent fighter to watch.

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There's plenty of middle ground here for you and ICB. ICB doesn't understand how anyone could support him or root for him, and you say he's an entertaining fighter. You could compromise and enjoy watching him lose.

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LMAO...... classic.

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That was an exciting fight until it lasted which is the 6th round for me. That darn streaming went black and I had a hard time finding another one.

You really get what you paid (or do not pay) for.

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Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

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Originally Posted by miles

I have seen the 24/7's and heard what Cotto has to say. I am not saying either way if Margarito is guilty or not as I don't know for sure, but what I do know is that I believe in life after crime and I believe Margarito is a decent fighter to watch.

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There's plenty of middle ground here for you and ICB. ICB doesn't understand how anyone could support him or root for him, and you say he's an entertaining fighter. You could compromise and enjoy watching him lose.

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I am very sure that a lot of people did enjoy that.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

anyone have a link....I fell asleep ;D

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I a ashamed to say I fell asleep after the 3rd round but got up at round 9.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

anyone have a link....I fell asleep ;D

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I a ashamed to say I fell asleep after the 3rd round but got up at round 9.

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That's understandable, when it's like 3 or 4 AM, i'd probably never watch fights that came on at that time until they showed the replay.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by Master

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anyone have a link....I fell asleep ;D

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I a ashamed to say I fell asleep after the 3rd round but got up at round 9.

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That's understandable, when it's like 3 or 4 AM, i'd probably never watch fights that came on at that time until they showed the replay.

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I wanted to watch this fight all year!!! But watched Chisora and then some porn to keep me awake and the Murray fight which was very good. Then it was about 5.30am and I nodded off.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

anyone have a link....I fell asleep ;D

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I a ashamed to say I fell asleep after the 3rd round but got up at round 9.

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That's understandable, when it's like 3 or 4 AM, i'd probably never watch fights that came on at that time until they showed the replay.

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I wanted to watch this fight all year!!! But watched Chisora and then some porn to keep me awake and the Murray fight which was very good. Then it was about 5.30am and I nodded off.

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I tend to record it and watch it next day for that very reason. Trouble is i then have to go around that day avoiding sports news and any friends or relatives who may have seen it, usually walking into a room saying "i don't want to know about the boxing" even when people clearly are not interested enough to have watched it. Today was even worse because i thought maybe Cotto might have just carried on smashing Margarito's eye after the bell at the end of round 12, and then have to be dragged off ,and then it would be all over the news and ...well you get the idea. Sometimes i don't think very rationally. Well done Miguel some classy work, the ability to change and evolve styles for a particular fight is a sign of a great boxer, and last night you were fantastic. Calm , measured, great movement and brilliant game plan. Margaritto...pity nobody dropped a piano on your head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSRl...e_gdata_player

I had never seen this before, but someone sent it to me while we were watching the undercard of the Cotto fight. Now that I've seen it, I hate Margarito more than ever before. Too bad Cotto didn't get the chance to blow out Margarito's eye socket. Maybe the cheater should thank the ref and the doctor for saving him from further punishment. I myself wish they would've let it continue.

Sorry.... the video is in Spanish. But there's an interview with Freddie Roach in there, and enough visual aids to get the point across. I especially found interesting how many left uppercuts Margarito throws at Cotto INSISTENTLY during those last few rounds. It's like he KNEW he was hammering Cotto with a plaster sledgehammer.

F*cking criminal. I actually hope he DOES get to fight again... and this time, maybe he'll get retired permanently.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSRlcxsOIw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I had never seen this before, but someone sent it to me while we were watching the undercard of the Cotto fight. Now that I've seen it, I hate Margarito more than ever before. Too bad Cotto didn't get the chance to blow out Margarito's eye socket. Maybe the cheater should thank the ref and the doctor for saving him from further punishment. I myself wish they would've let it continue.

Sorry.... the video is in Spanish. But there's an interview with Freddie Roach in there, and enough visual aids to get the point across. I especially found interesting how many left uppercuts Margarito throws at Cotto INSISTENTLY during those last few rounds. It's like he KNEW he was hammering Cotto with a plaster sledgehammer.

F*cking criminal. I actually hope he DOES get to fight again... and this time, maybe he'll get retired permanently.

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That's is why in the other thread I wished Cheatony Diablo fights James Kirkland next at either junior middle or at middle so he'll get sent to the morgue next. It's kinda funny though Margarito's worst ass whoopins was against guys naturally smaller than him.

Antonio Malignaggi is nothing without his power-wraps. He looked special-olympics in there at some points. Cotto was just Bappin! him to the face all night like a mean ghost.

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Originally Posted by LaMigra

Antonio Malignaggi is nothing without his power-wraps. He looked special-olympics in there at some points. Cotto was just Bappin! him to the face all night like a mean ghost.

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Tony is like a little Chihuahua now, all bark, no bite..

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by LaMigra

Antonio Malignaggi is nothing without his power-wraps. He looked special-olympics in there at some points. Cotto was just Bappin! him to the face all night like a mean ghost.

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Tony is like a little Chihuahua now, all bark, no bite..

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LOL!!

Well... in actuality, he's kind of a big Chihuahua. Other than that..... nailed in on the head, bro.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by LaMigra

Antonio Malignaggi is nothing without his power-wraps. He looked special-olympics in there at some points. Cotto was just Bappin! him to the face all night like a mean ghost.

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Tony is like a little Chihuahua now, all bark, no bite..

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All tough-guy frown with NO skills or true power.