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If leaning is a factor that could wear on Wilder. He needs to land his shots hard and that's when Fury will grab and lean. Yet if he tries to pot shot and move he could get outboxed himself. It is a very unusual fight. Hopefully a crazy KO from Wilder but it will do him some good to go a few rounds and see how he stands up against another top fighter.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
212lbs is too light. Fury will be not only the slicker fighter but a huge weight advantage too. Looks like wilder has no other way to win apart from finding that bingo punch
Oh Dear, that's a bit of a sad prediction, hope your not right but these things happen with 'questionable' refereesQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Yes. With the dodgy Jack Reiss as the referee, it's very likely that there will be an early stoppage in favor of Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Wilder!!! Potshot!!!! What videos you been watching? How is he going to potshot or jab a taller man with a massively longer reach, airshots all night and he'll probably trip over his own feet at least 3 times. Granted the ref may give points because Fury tripped him, but there is a suspicion he may be biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Mis match
I think some of you guys have been drinking too much of that "atomic windmill Kool-aid" that was being served by a former colleague. Not only that. Fury is now some master boxer out of nowhere, whose dazzling moves will make Wilder miss every single one of his shots. Wow... ok. If that's how it goes down, I'll be the first to admit how wrong I was. Frankly, I see Fury being wary of Wilder's shots and he won't be able dodge every single one of them for 12 rounds. Once that happens, the difference between Wilder and Cunningham will become all too clear. On Wilder's side, I suspect he'll be expecting Fury's dazzling boxing moves, and will at least try and attempt to keep his "atomic windmills" under control.
What fights has he been poor in, I'd like to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by FreedomYes. With the dodgy Jack Reiss as the referee, it's very likely that there will be an early stoppage in favor of Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
It’s as if people forget that Fury was never really that good. He beat Wlad but besides that he never looked impressive. I was never high on Fury. I never thought he looked that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Kessler-Ward, many others. He always favors the American boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat fights has he been poor in, I'd like to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by FreedomYes. With the dodgy Jack Reiss as the referee, it's very likely that there will be an early stoppage in favor of Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SVvyx8sR0
Wilder has a decent jab when he uses it and pot shot as in moving and then looking for the big punch himself before getting away. He has the speed to do it. Fury isn't that much taller at all. Personally I think Wilder is too light, but then again, maybe his plan is to move and be more elusive than Fury and wait for his big moments. He is unlikely to want a close inside fight. Maybe Fury does. Fury has looked odd on his legs for the last two fights IMO. If that is the same, then Wilder will land his shots and plenty of them. Fury himself hasn't fought a man this tall since Wlad years ago and even then only pot shotted himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomWilder!!! Potshot!!!! What videos you been watching? How is he going to potshot or jab a taller man with a massively longer reach, airshots all night and he'll probably trip over his own feet at least 3 times. Granted the ref may give points because Fury tripped him, but there is a suspicion he may be biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Mis match
Could they not have found a better opponent for Jarrett Hurd than Jason Welborn? Especially since that fight is for multiple world titles (IBF, WBA "Super" and the IBO).
Two years ago in 2016, Welborn lost to William Warburton. Why is Jarrett Hurd fighting a guy who lost to a boxer with 126 losses?
Here's Warburton's record: http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/491580
What's the point of a world champion taking a fight like this? It's the very worst of several ugly mismatches on this boxing event.
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Hurd has been injured so he is taking an easy fight. I don’t mind the fight but it shouldn’t be on a PPV undercard. And Hurd is making a million dollars off of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I miss @ross
Nuttier is current #1 mandatory wbc and ibf Julian Williams buried on undercard in an 8 rounder vs a guy Spence knocked out at welter 4 yrs ago. Hurd needs to make the big fights while his beard holds up.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHurd has been injured so he is taking an easy fight. I don’t mind the fight but it shouldn’t be on a PPV undercard. And Hurd is making a million dollars off of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Hurd-Welborn is a ridiculous, pointless mismatch. How is it even possible these privileged fighters get so much for so little (a million quid for this?). Amazing. And certain people will have you believe these guys get "ducked." Incredible.
Hurd will literally have to not throw a punch to carry Welborn.
5/4 rounds 1-4 (to be beyond safe), if that doesn't land I give up.
Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder ‘could have an immediate rematch’ due to unusual clause in their contracts
It is understood both fighters will be able to demand a rematch in the event of their first professional loss
Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder could meet in an immediate rematch regardless of who wins their WBC heavyweight title fight.
The rivals finally take to the ring on Saturday evening at Los Angeles’ Staples Center and it is understood that, unusually, both fighters have rematch clauses in the event of their first professional defeat.
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
While the most common circumstances are for the defending champion, in this case Wilder, to have such an option, it has also been extended to the 30-year-old Fury, who had not planned such a dangerous fight so soon into his comeback and who is still regarded by some as the division’s lineal champion.
It is even likely that a London football stadium, like where Anthony Joshua has established himself as the IBF, WBA and WBO champion, would be considered as the venue for a potential rematch in the spring.
Both fighters have again this week been critical of Joshua for, in their view, being unwilling to risk bouts against either of them, and also discussed their willingness to fight each other in a rematch.
Also considering the potential for a rematch, Fury’s promoter Frank Warren said: “It’s a great fight and if it turns out as I expect I’m sure there’ll be a rematch.
“I would love it to be in London; if it’s a good fight straight into a soccer stadium.
“If Wilder loses he’d have to make a statement. Tyson would fight anywhere; he’s a traveller, he’s done it many times.
“I don’t think Wilder wanted to come to London, that’s why Tyson (travelled).
“Tyson will fight in the UK again.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...ntract-clause/
Still cant call this one!
Wilder is always gonna be one punch away from a KO win but Fury can nullify everything he tries by spoiling, frustrating, hugging/sapping his energy and boxing him silly but can he do it against a livewire for 12 rounds.
I can see Wilder banging him out early too.
Would love to see Fury win this.
Im hearing its likely to start around 5.30 UK time too.
Whoever is in charge of pushing this fight has done a great job. At first it seemed like a joke. Fury was obviously nowhere near ready to face a top HW. Now, many people think that Fury not only has a chance to win but that he will win.
I haven’t changed my opinion on this fight from the beginning. Wilder will get him out of there early. Fury was never a great fighter. He has a great win though. Now after a long layoff of getting fat and doing cocaine, he won’t even be the decent fighter he once was.
The PPV show starts at 11:30pm but I'm guessing there will be a shit load of build up first, anyone got any idea what time the first fight is due to start?
I am guessing 2am and Fury v Wilder at 4.30amQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I reckon I'm gunna get my head down until 12ishQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI am guessing 2am and Fury v Wilder at 4.30amQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I can't see wilder winning this, he's just not very good, Fury to lean on him and stop him in the second half of the fight. 213 lbs is pretty light and fury will be able to grab him pretty easy.
Does Tyson have enough movement , boxing ability, reflexes after the layoff?
He's got slighty better reach,and used to be able to switch hit smoothly, another thing that can confuse Wilder if Fury can still do it.
In an interview with Holyfield , Lennox Lewis advised against switching, but its something that might come later into a fight if Tyson can still use it.
Any links for this that will work on an iPhone? I couldn’t be home tonight but I’d like to see it
A rematch with Fury will provide an excuse for Wilder to continue to avoid the real heavyweight champion, Anthony Joshua.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I think a fight right about now would be good. Bounce Lewis and Dempsey do my swede in.
Omg how bad is Hanks' chin?
Joyce knocks out Hanks in the first round.
Joyce is a big puncher but very slow and crude.
Good evening gents. A little late.... but here now. Saw the 1st round KO.
Dude can't talk for sh-t.
Joyce doesn't have any charisma at all does he
Geriatric joyce. Good win to be fair.would like to see him in v chisora which haye was chasing for a while
Next up, another mismatch.
Old Ortiz will easily KO the mediocre Kauffman.
That isn't that bad of a fight, Kauffman is certainly component he could have got a decision against (a faded to be fair) Arreola, there is way worse opponents than Kauffman out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Wilder coming to play cards or fight? That outfit ;D
Ortiz is still only 39? he's been 39 for the last 6 years at least
He appears to be in his early 50s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Ortiz playing with Kauffman in the 1st round easily winning it.
Anyone happen to have a link :bag:? Purely for educational purposes.