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Ive never undertood this, while leenox is a great fighter that fight does not define him tyson was done agianst holyfield over 4 years prior, I certainly did not think he would win he looked dreadlyful against frans botha and many could have beat him. People talk as if this is lennoxes defining fight but giv eme a break tyson was dreadful.
Boxing needs them, they are significant. From Corbett/Sullivan, to Jackson/Jeffries, Tunney/Dempsey, Marciano/Louis, Holmes/Ali, Holmes/Tyson to finally Lewis/Tyson, they help show that the King is dead and a new King is crowned.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacdog
They are a necessary evil, because as Lewis/Vitali showed, when the Coronation fails, chaos occurs, and boxing suffers... Lets hope Wlad can finally prove he is for real, and clean up this holy mess left mostly by his big brother.
Tyson avoided Lewis for as long as possible .Same could be said for Evander and Bowe . Lewis beat em all with ease so you have to give the man credit .
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Originally Posted by GAME
no way he should get credit for beating tyson anymore than williams and mcbride can say they did
Williams and Mcbride beat Tyson years later plus some people were saying Mike could beat lennoxQuote:
Originally Posted by LawHoops
Prime Mike knocks Lennox the fuck out.
Well yes, Lewis was an amateur at the time, it would be a little bit embarrassing if he could not!!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
I've always found it odd that some people disregard Lewis's victorys over guys like Holyfield and Tyson because they were old and past it, really, Lennox was no spring chicken either, he was as good as he ever was at nearly 40, it's not his fault these guys burned out quickly. Lewis wasn't high profile enough to fight Tyson before he went to prison in 92, and by then Tysons peak had passed so no matter when he fought him people would end up saying he fought a washed up Tyson, because Tyson got washed up real quick.
I think the point with Lewis v Tyson. is that their primes were at very different stages in their caerrers.
Lewis is actully older than Tyson though peaks way later, when Tyson is barely 20 hes bobbing weaving and being an absolute monster, while lewis is off playing amauter games and hunting olympic medels. It is only far later that Lewis obtains these killer jabs and thunderbolt uppercuts that made him virtually unbeatable from the mid 90's onwards.
There was probably a point where their talents crossed over and you would have had an even match up but it was never to happen. Your right Lewis fought a faded tyson, but he was still considered a threat and was capable of taking out any number of contenders, in many ways i think lewis probably accerlated tyson's decline by that brutal pummerling he gave the man.
Prime for Prime is a real tough one, for although they shared the same time, it is the older man who has the later prime. personally i think ive got to with tyson, for lewis's ringcraft he showed he was suspectable to be ko'd by one good shot, and tyson's movement in the late 80's was something else, so i would side with tyson but Lewis's huge frame and reach would have given him a chance to nulify tyson. Its a fight that we were never going to be able to see and what we got, though an even match was much needed for linege and also to end the debate over who was the best at that time.
Tyson at his best, beats Lewis at his best then if your playing that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
I don't really think Lennox's victory over Tyson really mattered. I hated Lewis at the time, but he well established his legacy before collecting a bunch of Tyson dollars. I was great before fighting Tyson.
I do however think Tyson would have knocked his block off had they've fought in Tyson's prime.
No, a 220lbs Tyson, would just not be able to stand up to prime 250lbs Lewis. Tyson, even at his dominant best, had awkward fights with big men... Ribalta, Smith and Tucker come to mind. Even Tillis and Green found ways to neutralize much of Tyson's offence.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Lewis is better athlete than all of them, After a couple of rounds chasing Lewis, Tyson would just eat the jab up, for the rest of the night, and whenever Tyson tried to get inside, he would walk into the Telephone pole that was Lewis' straight right or get all tied up.
Lewis by easy decision 8/4 ;)
Tyson mid rounds KO.
I hate to have to keep saying this but McBride didn't actually beat Tyson... Tyson quit inbetween rounds because he now lacked the skill to KO McBride. A short old guy with diminished skills struggling to beat a journey because of his side? He lost interest... ::** No heavyweight contender beats McBride on points... they knock the bum out.
Even jouneymen like Michale Murray knock Mcbride out .
As for Lewis - Tyson . Lewis did and would beat Tyson easy