Congratulations to Oscar. Now let's keep things in PERSPECTIVE!!!!!

Gotta admit it. Oscar's performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn't to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.

But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let's keep some perspective. I think it's pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it's because:

1. Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
2. Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
3. Tito got lucky.
4. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he's the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!

Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but.....
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter.... Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot.... Tito KO'd Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO'd Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?

You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar's next opponent. I've got a better candidate. How about......... Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?

Hey, I know Oscar's fans won't like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there's one thing he'll never get off his record and will never get payback for:

His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).

But anyone who saw the fight saw Tito get school in boxing. Oscar is and alsway will be better.

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Originally Posted by a4mrmarine

But anyone who saw the fight saw Tito get school in boxing. Oscar is and alsway will be better.

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That's not what the judges saw. The judges saw someone who was winning the fight, got tagged good, and decided to run for his life in the last rounds. DLH threw the fight away, whether that makes you feel good or not.
;)

Then I hope they do it again, and see how many times Tito can retire and come back I think he is going for a record.

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Originally Posted by a4mrmarine

Then I hope they do it again, and see how many times Tito can retire and come back I think he is going for a record.

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This time though, I'd like to see Oscar stand toe-to-toe with Tito like he did with Mayorga. Not run like a bitch-slapped hooker.

well oscar and tito are now currently neighbors and live in the same neighborhood in PR. so maybe they can choreograph a better more convincing thrown fight in their backyards. :lickish:

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Gotta admit it. Oscar's performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn't to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.

But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let's keep some perspective. I think it's pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it's because:

1. Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
2. Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
3. Tito got lucky.
4. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he's the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!

Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but.....
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter.... Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot.... Tito KO'd Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO'd Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?

You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar's next opponent. I've got a better candidate. How about......... Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?

Hey, I know Oscar's fans won't like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there's one thing he'll never get off his record and will never get payback for:

His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).

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Holy shat I actually agree with you!

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Originally Posted by Starr

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Gotta admit it. Oscar's performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn't to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.

But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let's keep some perspective. I think it's pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it's because:

1. Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
2. Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
3. Tito got lucky.
4. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he's the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!

Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but.....
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter.... Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot.... Tito KO'd Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO'd Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?

You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar's next opponent. I've got a better candidate. How about......... Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?

Hey, I know Oscar's fans won't like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there's one thing he'll never get off his record and will never get payback for:

His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).

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Holy shat I actually agree with you!

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Miracles DO happen.
;D

lets ask Mayorga who hits harder. he dropped his hands for Tito and didnt budge. and he got dropped by Oscar.Again Oscar is not stupid he wont stand toe to toe with anyone who he can clearly outbox. I hope this happens, but i doubt it, and if tito does come back who is he gonna pick to fight this time. who is a smaller guy out there that cant fight and is stupid.

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Originally Posted by a4mrmarine

lets ask Mayorga who hits harder. he dropped his hands for Tito and didnt budge. and he got dropped by Oscar.Again Oscar is not stupid he wont stand toe to toe with anyone who he can clearly outbox. I hope this happens, but i doubt it, and if tito does come back who is he gonna pick to fight this time. who is a smaller guy out there that cant fight and is stupid.

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Tito: 42-2-0
DLH: 38-4-0 (including a loss to one Felix "Tito" Trinidad)

I know this hurts, but accept it, and move on.....

Tha is exactly why I do hope it happens again so we can see Tito get schooled again and sent into retirement again, maybe the third i sthe Charm.

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Originally Posted by a4mrmarine

Tha is exactly why I do hope it happens again so we can see Tito get schooled again and sent into retirement again, maybe the third i sthe Charm.

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Better yet, let's let Oscar stay like that and be forever bothered by that "chink" in his legacy armour.
;)

Oscar beat Tito, anyone who knows boxing knows that.. He decisevely won 8 rounds and outlanded him by over 100 punches.. DLH has also never been completely embaressed and outclassed the way Tito has in his 2 defeats.. So I disagree. I don't think this win does a whole lot for Oscar and I see your point about him feasting on Trinidads opponents, but DLH is still the better fighter by a stride I think.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Oscar beat Tito, anyone who knows boxing knows that.. He decisevely won 8 rounds and outlanded him by over 100 punches.. DLH has also never been completely embaressed and outclassed the way Tito has in his 2 defeats.. So I disagree. I don't think this win does a whole lot for Oscar and I see your point about him feasting on Trinidads opponents, but DLH is still the better fighter by a stride I think.

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Hey, at least you add "I think." It's more than most people do. You know, I've read tons of posts on this forum about how Tito was so embarrassed by Hopkins. Personally, I think Tito's showing against Hopkins wasn't as disgraceful's as Oscar's. But again, that's only my opinion. Yes, Tito was outclassed. Losing to one of the greatest 160-pounders in history is no shame in itself. Don't forget that this was Tito's 2nd fight at 160. His first one was a thorough beating of Joppy, someone everyone thought was great until Tito destroyed him. Then he was just a bum. Typical of Tito haters. I WILL cave on the Wright fight. I don't know what the hell was wrong with Tito that night. I was thoroughly disgusted with his showing, and I'm sad that was his last fight. Again, boxing fans, being the fickle group they are, only remember you for your last fight. They quickly forget how storied a career has been.

But having said all that, I commend you for expressing your points of view without sounding like some of the idiots on this board.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Gotta admit it. Oscar's performance impressed me last night. I was hoping for a Mayorga KO, but it wasn't to be. I predicted an Oscar win by UD, by the way.

But before we start nominating Oscar for President, let's keep some perspective. I think it's pretty funny how boxing fans see things the way they WANT to see them. When Tito beat Mayorga, it's because:

1. Mayorga fought a stupid fight.
2. Mayorga is not a true 160-pounder.
3. Tito got lucky.
4. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now Oscar beats Mayorga, and he's the best fighter in the history of boxing. Stop the presses!! Oscar for sainthood!!

Well, I hate to piss the De la Hoya fans off (again), but.....
Does anyone else see a pattern here? Tito destroys a fighter.... Oscar comes by later and cleans up the scraps. Happened with Vargas, happened with Campas, happened with Mayorga. Oh, I forgot.... Tito KO'd Vargas in 12, but DLH did it in 11. Tito KO'd Mayorga in 8, but DLH did it in 6. That means Oscar must be better, huh?

You know what? Forget about PBF being Oscar's next opponent. I've got a better candidate. How about......... Joppy?!? Or Oba Carr? How about David Reid?

Hey, I know Oscar's fans won't like this, but Oscar can beat PFB and ride off into the sunset on his white horse. But there's one thing he'll never get off his record and will never get payback for:

His loss to Tito in the biggest fight of his life, not in Puerto Rico where he could blame partisan judges, but in Las Vegas, close to his own backyard and in front of thousand of screaming, adoring fans. That thorn will always be sticking into his side. (Heh, heh).

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Trinidad never took rematches against fighter who beat him, didn't even pursue it. He is willing to come out of retirement go down to 154 or catch weight for peanuts, to beat a fighter he dominated but won't fight oscar for millions and to exonerate his biggest win from controversy. At least oscar rematched mosley whether u believe he won or lost and also has been calling out trinidad for years. whenever tito loses and is humiliated in a fight he wants no part of that fighter. Objective minds know Oscar won the trinidad fight only eggheads will say Tito won.

by the way Oscar has already fought oba carr, and ppl recognize oscar as a better fighter than tito, not because oscar fought tito's leftovers but because he dominated and embarrased tito, because isn't one-dimensional like tito, and because he never got a one-sided beating like tito (also not once but twice)