who was the greatest: Muhammad ALi or Sugar Ray Robinson?

i say Muhammad Ali

b4 his exile he was impossible 2 beat

when he cameback he was still almost impossible 2 beat
beat the indestructible sonny liston 2x-

beat the indestructible George foreman and ko his ass(the only man 2 do so)
beat frazier 2x
beat norton 2x

all of those fights he wasnt even in his prime---imagine if a prime ali existed!

ray robinson however was impossible 2 beat--the only time he could get licked was when he was an old man at like 44

if ali reached a prime i believe he would have been the greatest p4p fighter 2 ever live---thats y i pick ali

this is a very hard choice

What about Willie Pep, he won more fights than those two fought COMBINED!

Willie Pep 230(65 KO)-11-1

Ray was great though! So was Ali but Ray was always exciting to watch...Ali not so much

Ali was a heavy weight
Robinson was a welterweight.
Apples and oranges. Welterweights are almost always more exciting to watch.

A featherweight. 26 yr. carreer. (pro and am.) Worthy, of thought.

Ali definately,

Ray slightly more exciting to watch but Ali's charismatic personality and clever ability to stirr media interest beats that of any other boxer, hands down!

I'd go with Ray.

I have to side with Robinson.

no question about it...SRR

Willie Pep, Benny Leonard were greater imo

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Originally Posted by undefeated

i say Muhammad Ali

b4 his exile he was impossible 2 beat

when he cameback he was still almost impossible 2 beat
beat the indestructible sonny liston 2x-

beat the indestructible George foreman and ko his a**(the only man 2 do so)
beat frazier 2x
beat norton 2x

all of those fights he wasnt even in his prime---imagine if a prime ali existed!

ray robinson however was impossible 2 beat--the only time he could get licked was when he was an old man at like 44

if ali reached a prime i believe he would have been the greatest p4p fighter 2 ever live---thats y i pick ali

this is a very hard choice

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I dunno Ray Robinson was licked pretty good against Lamotta their first fight... I think Ali was as good if not better because he fought way better guys.. .I never liked who Robinson foughts, and thought alot of his fights were way too close considering how bad his opponent was. IMO Roy Jones Jr. or Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Leonard would have all beaten him p4p very very badly.

Didn't they call Ali the heavyweight Ray Robinson ??? Ali's style he basically used Ray Robinson for influence and added some flair and jabbed more.

"If He was a heavyweight I think he'd beat me" - Ali, speaking about Ray Robinson

Ray's career spanded 30 years...won fighter of the the year in three different decades...was 121-1... beat lamotta 4 out of 5 times...finished 179-19... 15 of those losses cam after he was 38..10 of them after forty years old...the one against maxim came after he was winning but passed ut from heat exhaustion...had a 92 fight win streak...IMO this isn't even close....

Esp when Ali admitted that he'd would have lost to Ray ;)

ALi said on numerous occasion 'I am the greatest heavyweight ever, Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter ever'.

Experts were once comparing Roy Jones to Ray robinson as one of the best P4P fighters ever.

This is off topic, But how many times did Robinson loose to lamotta???

1 out 5....SRR 4wins lamotta 1 win