sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
the fight will take place sometime in september and be telivised on showtime according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
until he gets hit.....he has never been hit by a true banger.....Rahman doesn't count....
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
until he gets hit.....he has never been hit by a true banger.....Rahman doesn't count....
true, but..............
imo, i think toney is still a pretty slick hw and will be able to out box sam peter but that is contingent upon toney getting in decent shape
but again thats a big IF
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
We all know James is higly talented and gets by without much effort since he is so gifted...As he gets older he is gonna have to put more work into his conditioning or he is gonna be in serious trouble when he gets in there with a true power puncher he is gonna have to up his workrate and outbox these guys instead of lying on the ropes and getting tooled on
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
YES! I think Peter can take this one.
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
until he gets hit.....he has never been hit by a true banger.....Rahman doesn't count....
What in the hell are you talking about, Rahman doesn't count... THat's all Rahman can do is punch...and he hit Toney with some big right hands... Peter basically sucks, imo... He is a sloth, Toney would make him look absolutely silly... I think if Wlad fought him again he could KO him fairly quickly, and I think that was a piss poor performance by Wlad in the first fight, people give him major props for that win... I see it as him almost being KOed by a total amatuer who had nowhere near the same physical tools, and isn't even on the same planet in terms of skill... I mean really, Wlad handled him just fine except for the 4 times Peter landed a punch on him, Toney can handle punches just fine, so he would beat him easier, imo, because he wouldn't have the mental baggage that Wlad did in that fight... I mean that may as well have been Wlads pro debut all over again he was just there to shake off his nerves and get comfortable.
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
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Originally Posted by jtrock
We all know James is higly talented and gets by without much effort since he is so gifted...As he gets older he is gonna have to put more work into his conditioning or he is gonna be in serious trouble when he gets in there with a true power puncher he is gonna have to up his workrate and outbox these guys instead of lying on the ropes and getting tooled on
well said..............
i agree 100%
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by jtrock
We all know James is higly talented and gets by without much effort since he is so gifted...As he gets older he is gonna have to put more work into his conditioning or he is gonna be in serious trouble when he gets in there with a true power puncher he is gonna have to up his workrate and outbox these guys instead of lying on the ropes and getting tooled on
well said..............
i agree 100%
WOW!!!! We finally agree on something ;)
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by jtrock
We all know James is higly talented and gets by without much effort since he is so gifted...As he gets older he is gonna have to put more work into his conditioning or he is gonna be in serious trouble when he gets in there with a true power puncher he is gonna have to up his workrate and outbox these guys instead of lying on the ropes and getting tooled on
well said..............
i agree 100%
WOW!!!! We finally agree on something ;)
that and meldrick taylor getting screwed (assuming youre talking about jcc)
that in my opinion was the biggest robbery of all time
and richard steele KNEW that round was going to end
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
I'll say it again if that fight ruined Taylor and he wasnt going to be the same, then he should have at least had a chance to finish the last few seconds and claim his much deserved victory...What a heart breaking robbery...The man earned it and went through hell and to have it ripped away from him is unexcusable IMO
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
according to boxingtalk.com
i gotta give the edge to james toney if he can get his fat a** in half way decent shape
until he gets hit.....he has never been hit by a true banger.....Rahman doesn't count....
true, but..............
imo, i think toney is still a pretty slick hw and will be able to out box sam peter but that is contingent upon toney getting in decent shape
but again thats a big IF
he's slick I'll give you that....but once Peter drops one of those monster Hambones upside his head/body/arms....JFAT is going to be in serious trouble....
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Originally Posted by jtrock
I'll say it again if that fight ruined Taylor and he wasnt going to be the same, then he should have at least had a chance to finish the last few seconds and claim his much deserved victory...What a heart breaking robbery...The man earned it and went through hell and to have it ripped away from him is unexcusable IMO
He wasn't fit to continue. He was clearly ou of it and it isn't worth it to risk those last seconds.
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by jtrock
I'll say it again if that fight ruined Taylor and he wasnt going to be the same, then he should have at least had a chance to finish the last few seconds and claim his much deserved victory...What a heart breaking robbery...The man earned it and went through hell and to have it ripped away from him is unexcusable IMO
He wasn't fit to continue. He was clearly ou of it and it isn't worth it to risk those last seconds.
there was like 2 SECONDS left (or something like that)
and i may be wrong but was jcc's promoter don king back then? cuz i remember in that period of boxing you could have A LOT of stuff go your way if he was promoting you.
not so much anymore though
Re: sam peter vs. james toney is in the works!
WHAT?!?! Hell yeah, this is a fight that I wanna see. I'm sorry guys but Peter is gonna KO Toney. Yeah, Toney is great blocking and slipping punches with his shoulders, but when you have arguably the hardest hitter P4P hitting you on your shoulders, Toney will wear down and get caught.
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by jtrock
I'll say it again if that fight ruined Taylor and he wasnt going to be the same, then he should have at least had a chance to finish the last few seconds and claim his much deserved victory...What a heart breaking robbery...The man earned it and went through hell and to have it ripped away from him is unexcusable IMO
He wasn't fit to continue. He was clearly ou of it and it isn't worth it to risk those last seconds.
exactly...risking death for that is not worth it.....
