This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..
Calzaghe though he did well, and IMO is still a great he would stand a chance against Prime Jones and I knew he never would before this fight... HIm having difficulties with a guy like Bika is something Jones never would have had to deal with... He was so much faster than Calzaghe and stronger it would have been a one sided slaughter... People say all Calzaghe could do is fight dirty back, but IMO a strong boxer-puncher can always create the distance... once Jones lost his power he couldn't against Tarver and Johnson, but before that he would have easily beaten either of them.
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RJJ was untouchable in his prime.....Joe C would be second fiddle during RJJ's reign.....Too fast too strong too good!!!!!
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Im not 100% up on Jones's record but he must had a few stinkers?
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RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke
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Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.
RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business
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Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
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Wow mate. You must have really done your homework on Jones Jr. You would have been what 5 at the time?
Or are you just saying that to sound smart? :cwm13:
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I still think Jones vs Calzaghe would have been one hell of a fight.
People make excuses for Roy now and say well he's 37 or whatever but Joe is 34 or 35, so you could just easily make the argument that he is not at his best now.
Plus Calzaghe has never been sparked out or bullied and beaten up like Jones was against Johnson.
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Wow mate. You must have really done your homework on Jones Jr. You would have been what 5 at the time?
Or are you just saying that to sound smart? :cwm13:
Who me? I have his boxing career collection... He fought alot of people I would consider much stronger, and more skilled than Bika... Julio GOnzalez, Mike McCallum(even old MIke), Virgil HIll, David Telesco, Lou De Valle, Clinton Woods, Eric Harding, and all of them Roy easily beat, and by easy I mean 119-109 type fights.
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people give credit for blowing Lacy out like that and being THAT impressive ONCE. Roy did it ALL the time
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Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?
Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.
Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.
Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
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Originally Posted by Snakey
Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?
Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.
Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.
Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
*SPOILERS*
Where's my month of coolclicks wacko?
I told you and I bet u a month of coolclicks that Joe would look average his next time out. I'm here to collect ;)
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Never been a JC fan. Always been a RJ fan.
Calzaghe has a tendency to fight to his opponent's level, like the commentators said, JC stuck to his gameplan versus lacy but is getting wild with bika. So what, he still beat the guy. And Bika is not a bad fighter. Give JC guy the respect he deserves.
RJ was a good talent and has physical gifts but he was never a great technical fighter like JC is. This was prooved when RJ got KO'd because his speed and reflexes faded a little. RJ would have beat Calzaghe but anyone who says that RJ would do to Calzaghe what he did to below average guys he fought is stupid.
BTW Bika was a dirty fighter with a good chin, these kind of guys are hard to look good against.
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Never been a JC fan. Always been a RJ fan.
Calzaghe has a tendency to fight to his opponent's level, like the commentators said, JC stuck to his gameplan versus lacy but is getting wild with bika. So what, he still beat the guy. And Bika is not a bad fighter. Give JC guy the respect he deserves.
RJ was a good talent and has physical gifts but he was never a great technical fighter like JC is. This was prooved when RJ got KO'd because his speed and reflexes faded a little. RJ would have beat Calzaghe but anyone who says that RJ would do to Calzaghe what he did to below average guys he fought is stupid.
BTW Bika was a dirty fighter with a good chin, these kind of guys are hard to look good against.
I agree with you totally. Very fair post.
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Originally Posted by Snakey
Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?
Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.
Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.
Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
Mate you know very well this isnt his first tough fight against low opposition. And by the way, ok roy didnt fight heaps of great fighters at super middleweight but who the hell has calzaghe fought. The man doesnt even want kessler and took him like 10 yrs to unify.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Snakey
Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?
Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.
Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.
Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
Mate you know very well this isnt his first tough fight against low opposition. And by the way, ok roy didnt fight heaps of great fighters at super middleweight but who the hell has calzaghe fought. The man doesnt even want kessler and took him like 10 yrs to unify.
If Calzaghe doesnt fight Kessler I will be dissapointed. Taylor and Winky are not fights that are gonna happen anytime soon. Jones Jr and Hopkins are pretty much semi retired, and okay, they will be able to sell a huge fight, but their best days are over...
Fighting Kessler in March is the best option....
