Definition of heart...

What your definition of a fighter having heart?

I know most will say or have been saying that Zab showed a lot of heart against cotto..and that gatti has heart....

but imo i think that gatti showed heart when he broke his hand against ward and kept fighting to a victory..but didn't show "heart" against mayweather because it was just stupid to stand there and constantly absorb punishment...

also i think roy jones showed "heart" in the first tarver fight to fight through tremendous amount of fatigue to the victory...

basically i don't think a fighter shows "heart" when he's doing nothing but absorbing punishment..like zab did...I think a fighter has to over come a major set back during the fight and fight through it win or lose to keep fighting despite the setback is what exemplifies "heart" to me..not to just constantly show that you can absorb punishment...

what do you guys think?

I think heart is the willingness to fight back no matter how much punishmnet you are taking. The desire to be hit, hurt and maimed in order to dish out your own assault in an attempt at glory.

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Arturo Gatti

Alexis Arguello

Evander Holyfield

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Arturo Gatti

Alexis Arguello

Evander Holyfield

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Their pictures are actually under the definition of heart in the dictionary!Check it out! lol
Good list

Jeff Fenech v Marcos Villasana
Jeff broke both hands / nose and orbital bone by round 2 and still fought like a madman and won UB 12
Hardman or wot ???
and yes ZAB showed lots of heart

Chacon
Gatti
LaMotta
Alexis
JCC
Evander
Corrales
Gomez

Confidence

You can bust me chops with power shots,
but thou shalt never see me crumble.

Till every pip that leaves me lips,
is but a senseless mumble.

This is heart.

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What your definition of a fighter having heart?

I know most will say or have been saying that Zab showed a lot of heart against cotto..and that gatti has heart....

but imo i think that gatti showed heart when he broke his hand against ward and kept fighting to a victory..but didn't show "heart" against mayweather because it was just stupid to stand there and constantly absorb punishment...

also i think roy jones showed "heart" in the first tarver fight to fight through tremendous amount of fatigue to the victory...

basically i don't think a fighter shows "heart" when he's doing nothing but absorbing punishment..like zab did...I think a fighter has to over come a major set back during the fight and fight through it win or lose to keep fighting despite the setback is what exemplifies "heart" to me..not to just constantly show that you can absorb punishment...

what do you guys think?

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I agree with you. Generally whenever someone mentions a person having heart it means they have getting a beating, not just in boxing but in life. Little child has cancer then they have tremendous courage, person gets paralysed in a horrific accident then they are tremendously brave etc.

Having to display heart means you are a loser.

A winner on the other hand seldom gets anyone talking about their heart which is unfair.

To me Cotto had more heart than Zab. Zab just got beat up, thats it. If he had heart (and balls) he wouldn't have gone down 3 times in the fight. He wouldn't have looked for a way out against Floyd etc.

Danny Williams

my def of heart is to show pride to your family
never to show fear always to be loyal

Corrales showed heart against Castillo in their 1st bout that made him earned 2005 RingMag FOTY.

Arce vs Hussein

Barrera vs McKinney

Barrera vs Morales vice versa

As much as I dislike him, Paulie Malignaggi showed tremendous heart against Cotto. To me, heart is never quitting no matter how badly things are going for you, and fighting back no matter how badly you are being beaten or outclassed. It's an overriding belief and desire to win, no matter the odds and the actions one takes towards that goal, regardless of the circumstances.

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As much as I dislike him, Paulie Malignaggi showed tremendous heart against Cotto. To me, heart is never quitting no matter how badly things are going for you, and fighting back no matter how badly you are being beaten or outclassed. It's an overriding belief and desire to win, no matter the odds and the actions one takes towards that goal, regardless of the circumstances.

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Exactly.

I used to dislike Judah, but I was really impressed with his performance against Cotto. He proved that he is a TRUE, BLOOD AND GUTS WARRIOR and can go toe to toe with the top dogs.

I fwocking hate his dad though. >:mad

Rocky Marciano
Julio Cesar Chavez
Carmen Basilio
Rocky Graziano
Tony Zale
Evander Holyfield
James Braddock
Jake LaMatta
Joey Maxim
George Chuvalo
Joe Frazier



that should get you started