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OK folks, so I was wondering after all this debate that we have had about the Kessler v Calzaghe fight, and there are plenty of varying opinons on how good he is, and whether he's a hometown fighter, over hyped or many other permutations, so I think a straw poll of Saddos members, from across the globe, and Britain of course, on how good you all think he is.
He is a world class fighter who has wasted his talent. The fact that Sven Ottke was considered better than him would have made me slit my throat. Galzaghe would have beaten him with one hand tied behind his back. He has two major wins, Eubanks and Lacy the rest are ex-champs. He should have been as famous and rich as Naz and Lennox, he was in that class but he has been a let down. Even if his last 3 fights are with Kessler, Wright/Hopkins, Taylor it would still be a waste of a career. A shame.
hes world class but in that division . with those oponants he is never an all time great , sorry Joe fans but its the truth :)
is this gonna be a no sadclick thread then ?????? ;D
i'm not a huge fan of Calzaghe but not because of his boxing ability
He's been seriously let down imo by Warren
completly agree with u master he should have been rich and famous but he isn't
it has been a waste
and u have to ask if now it's too late
with his hand breaking during most fights now how long can he realistically carry on ???
he deserved more as a fighter and didnt get it
the onli reason im not a fan is the showboating during the Lacy fight :-\
it just put me off
in a way i guess he had a right to act in that manner but it just ruins things for me personally
although i realise that isnt everybodys opinion
world class at the moment. If he beats Kessler next and then either winkyt or b-hop he'd have to be regarded as an all time great as well.
He unfortunately came through at the wrong time. Think of the class he could of mixed with only a few years earlier...
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Joe Calzaghe is my fav Brit boxer.
Agree with most of that - but I think that he earnt th right to showboat against Lacy, afterall the doubters gave him no chance and thought he would get owned and he kept his gob shut and did his talking in the ringQuote:
Originally Posted by katfight
He's a very good fighter in a fairly ordinary era for his weight. No Leonard, Hearns etc to compare himself against.
But great work rate, very accurate puncher, very fit, excellent boxer. Would beat a lot of good fighters from yesteryear - Dick Tiger etc.
I have a high respect for Calzaghe's skill level.
I also respect him now fighting Kessler, which is
all things considered his most worthy opponent at
168. It's hard to say All-time, when he hasn't had
the competition to prove it. But he is definately
the best of today.
The thing about opposition is.........who did B-HOP or RJJ really fight that was in their prime?
You can pick holes in any record - but admitedly Warren has not always done a grat job for him (apart from Lacy & Kessler fights)
I'd make him favourite against any of the "great" supermiddleweights... barring Roy.
When he turns Kessler into the Euro-Lacy in a few months time it wont change the knockers view that he's a hometown fighter that obviously ducked Hopkins, Winky, Jones etc...and don't nobody dare compare a protected hometown Eurobum to those great Americans.
Now that the Kessler fight is about to jump off I no longer think Calzaghe a coward. No matter if he wins or gets KTFO I am proud of him now and will no longer hate on him.
My personal view is that Joe Calzaghe is at present rated as a world class fighter, who needs to grab a couple of high profile wins if he wants to earn a place among the all-timers. He hasn't really littered his record with big names that you would see on other records of all-time great fighters, but we shall see what the future holds for him.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
i did say that i guess he had the right to act that way
and he does keep his mouth shut you absolutly right
but thought the showboating made himlook like he was taking the piss and i just personally dont like it ;D