All Time Pound For Pound List

* = still active


#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W *

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M *

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM *

#25 - Michael Spinks 31-1 LH

#24 - Joe Frazier 32-4-1 H

#23 - Sonny Liston 50-4 H

#22 - Shane Mosley 44-4 W *

#21 - George Foreman 75-5 H

#20 - Ronald Wright 51-4-1 M *

#19 - Manny Pacquiao 44-3-2 SF *

#18 - Mike Tyson 50-6 H

#17 - Lennox Lewis 41-2-1 H

#16 - Marco Antonio Barrera 63-5 SF *

#15 - Felix Trinidad 42-2 W

#14 - Larry Holmes 69-6 H

#13 - Thomas Hearns 61-5-1 W

#12 - Julio Cesar Chavez 108-6-2 LW

#11 - Oscar De La Hoya 38-5 LM *

#10 - Roy Jones Jr. 51-4 LH *

#9 - Bernard Hopkins 48-4-1 LH *

#8 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. 38-0 LM *

#7 - Marvin Hagler 62-3-2 M

#6 - Rocky Marciano 49-0 H

#5 - Roberto Duran 103-16 L

#4 - Ray leonard 36-3-1 W

#3 - Joe Louis 69-3 H

#2 - Ray Robinson 173-19-6 M

#1 - Muhammad Ali 56-5 H

mate i'll give you props posting a list...

but seriously? i would asume you havn't been a massive an or are quit young? i aint trying to be a kunt but there are so many fights missing from the top 10 that are basicaly unquestionablely there...

Pep, amstrong, shit i can go on and on...

(btw before anyone starts ripping this guy give him the benefit of the doubt that is still leanring..)

I appreciate the effort you put in to the list but
Michael Spinks?
No Jack Johnson,no Willie Pep,No Jake LaMotta,but Michael Spinks is on it?

Seriously Flawed list

Lets see:

#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W ??? WTF has he done aside from beating Margarito? You put him before pep? And what about prior? Anyways, he shouldn't be there

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W * Not yet P4P material. He just beat Judah and Judah ain't a P4P so what did he do to deserve this?

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M * That's probably the funiest thing I've seen. Taylor on a P4P all time?

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H Now I know you are not serious. What about Norton?

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM * Now you've lost all my respect. You put him behind De La Hoya and Trinidad? Only two words for you, 20 defenses.

I'll stop here because you're list hasn't been researched enough. Do some research and come back with a better list.

But a hint, RJJ should be before Hopkins... he beat him after all.

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Originally Posted by Azriel

Seriously Flawed list

Lets see:

#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W ??? WTF has he done aside from beating Margarito? You put him before pep? And what about prior? Anyways, he shouldn't be there

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W * Not yet P4P material. He just beat Judah and Judah ain't a P4P so what did he do to deserve this?

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M * That's probably the funiest thing I've seen. Taylor on a P4P all time?

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H Now I know you are not serious. What about Norton?

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM * Now you've lost all my respect. You put him behind De La Hoya and Trinidad? Only two words for you, 20 defenses.

I'll stop here because you're list hasn't been researched enough. Do some research and come back with a better list.

But a hint, RJJ should be before Hopkins... he beat him after all.

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And Hopkins beat Tarver

Be prepared for som serious thrashing. You should do some research before putting up a list on this thread. I'll give you a little help. With the exception of Roy Jones jr and Floyd Maywether Jr. Get rid of all the guys with an asterisks(*) next to it. And that includes Paul Williams whom you forgot to mark as an active fighter.

Trainer Monkey, Touché 8)

Wow a little harsh but i understand where some critisizm is valid..but this is his just his opinion and a good place to start for a discussion , hell most can't agree on a current pfp list so an all time list is gonna have tons of different views, definatly an A for effort though.

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Originally Posted by Azriel

Seriously Flawed list

Lets see:

#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W ??? WTF has he done aside from beating Margarito? You put him before pep? And what about prior? Anyways, he shouldn't be there

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W * Not yet P4P material. He just beat Judah and Judah ain't a P4P so what did he do to deserve this?

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M * That's probably the funiest thing I've seen. Taylor on a P4P all time?

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H Now I know you are not serious. What about Norton?

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM * Now you've lost all my respect. You put him behind De La Hoya and Trinidad? Only two words for you, 20 defenses.

I'll stop here because you're list hasn't been researched enough. Do some research and come back with a better list.

But a hint, RJJ should be before Hopkins... he beat him after all.

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you will find it hard to find a bigger calzaghe fan on this board than me, but shit not even i would put joe above de la hoya and tito...

Joe has defended his belt 21 times but oscar is a 6 weight world champion, both he and tito have mixed it with some of the biggest names of boxing in the era...

Joe has still got work to do before he has done, but i doubt he will ever be considered greater than de la hoya

In my opinion, De La Hoya is viewed as an all time great because of his fame and not his accomplishments. But that's only my opinion. I just think Trinidad and De La Hoya are too high on the list.

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Originally Posted by Mikefields

* = still active


#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W *

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M *

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM *

#25 - Michael Spinks 31-1 LH

#24 - Joe Frazier 32-4-1 H

#23 - Sonny Liston 50-4 H

#22 - Shane Mosley 44-4 W *

#21 - George Foreman 75-5 H

#20 - Ronald Wright 51-4-1 M *

#19 - Manny Pacquiao 44-3-2 SF *

#18 - Mike Tyson 50-6 H

#17 - Lennox Lewis 41-2-1 H

#16 - Marco Antonio Barrera 63-5 SF *

#15 - Felix Trinidad 42-2 W

#14 - Larry Holmes 69-6 H

#13 - Thomas Hearns 61-5-1 W

#12 - Julio Cesar Chavez 108-6-2 LW

#11 - Oscar De La Hoya 38-5 LM *

#10 - Roy Jones Jr. 51-4 LH *

#9 - Bernard Hopkins 48-4-1 LH *

#8 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. 38-0 LM *

#7 - Marvin Hagler 62-3-2 M

#6 - Rocky Marciano 49-0 H

#5 - Roberto Duran 103-16 L

#4 - Ray leonard 36-3-1 W

#3 - Joe Louis 69-3 H

#2 - Ray Robinson 173-19-6 M

#1 - Muhammad Ali 56-5 H

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List is so bad, there's no need for me to bad mouth it. Enough people will do that.

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Originally Posted by Azriel

Seriously Flawed list

Lets see:

#30 - Paul Williams 33-0 W ??? WTF has he done aside from beating Margarito? You put him before pep? And what about prior? Anyways, he shouldn't be there

#29 - Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0 W * Not yet P4P material. He just beat Judah and Judah ain't a P4P so what did he do to deserve this?

#28 - Jermain Taylor 27-0-1 M * That's probably the funiest thing I've seen. Taylor on a P4P all time?

#27 - Riddick Bowe 42-1 H Now I know you are not serious. What about Norton?

#26 - Joe Calzaghe 43-0 SM * Now you've lost all my respect. You put him behind De La Hoya and Trinidad? Only two words for you, 20 defenses.

I'll stop here because you're list hasn't been researched enough. Do some research and come back with a better list.

But a hint, RJJ should be before Hopkins... he beat him after all.

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If you even had any creditability you would of just lost it. Good thing for you, you don't have any.

Hey dude, are YOU saying I don't have credibility because you know me? or because of the number of posts I have? Either way, your credibility check failed.

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Originally Posted by Azriel

Hey dude, are YOU saying I don't have credibility because you know me? or because of the number of posts I have? Either way, your credibility check failed.

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No you failed it. You put Calzaghe ahead of De La Hoya and Trinidad. That shows you know nothing about boxing.

I said, in my opinion. And no, it doesn't show I know nothing about boxing, it doesn't mean that because a fighter is not American that he is defacto not better then Trinidad.

Someone in here said that nobody today can agree on a current P4P list so I don't expect you and I to agree on everything

Plus, remember that I wasn't ripping the guy just voicing my opinion so again, I can't be wrong, it's an opinion.

If you tell me that you don't agree, fine, but saying someone doesn't have any credibility because he prefers 21 world title defenses and an undefeated record over a very unidimensional Trinidad, you are missing what a conversation should be all about.

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Originally Posted by Azriel

In my opinion, De La Hoya is viewed as an all time great because of his fame and not his accomplishments. But that's only my opinion. I just think Trinidad and De La Hoya are too high on the list.

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De la hoya got his fame because of his accomplishments... seriously, can;t beliebe i have to explain this...

You think he had fame for doing fuck all? or coz of his golden smile?

this is a guy with one of the greatest resumes in the histroy of boxing... yes he did lose, but never with a total beat down, shit even at middleweight he kept it close with hopkins untill the 'stoppage' there was a time people when people were doubting the golden boy and questioning him for his lack of meaningfull fights - he threatend to leave his then promotor unles they started matching him with better fighters... he then went on from there fight some of the hardest consecutive fights in the history of boxing, he has mixed it with just about every great in his weight and eara possible... THATS HOW HE GOT HIS FAME