Floyd Mayweather. A look at his recent opponents
Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.
Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above
Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto
Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.
Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.
Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)
Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto
Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.
Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.
I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought :)
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puts it in to perspective mate
if mayweather tries to fight hatton on the inside he will get fcked up
i see hatton wearing him down, and the only way floyd can win is by running and jabbing his way to a UD with bias/paid vegas judges, but i belive hatton will frustrate him that much he'll get drawn into a war
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Agreed. Its a pretty weary looking list of opponents for the best fighter in the sport. The best opponent is Oscar simply because Oscar was the kingpin in a pretty weak 154 pound division. Oscar is not my idea of a great fighter and especially not at this stage in his career. He has a history of blowing at the tail end of his big fights. And indeed thats where Floyd took him.
There are some truly lacklustre names there. Fighters that are past their best or else were not all that good anyway.
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MAYWEATHER knows how to play the game. According to Mayweather he has beaten the best. Maybe at jr lightweight and lightweight but not in the welterweights. Not where the big boys are. None of those guys are deadly power punchers at welterweight. DLH is the most pwerful and we saw that PBF wasn't going to stand and fight. He's convincing people that he's the best by beating fighters like Baldomir. who have 9 loses. He has fought 7 fighters since moving to the welterweights with a combine loss total of 30 losses. thats 4.28 per fighter. WTF is that? SHould I consider him the greatest of all times? good topic STEADY_E!
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Since Floyd Mayweather has hit the 140’s and above who has he beaten?? Its not that the names on his record are bad it’s just that when you look at it more closely you see that his recent fights really were nothing to give him the credit or rating he has.
Let’s take a look at his last few opponents 140 and above
Demarcus Corley:
Mayweather couldn’t KO him and beat him over 12 rounds. Since then Corley has lost by TKO to Jose Alfor, Lost by UD to Jr Witter and lost by TKO to Miguel Cotto
Henry Bruseles:
This was an elimination bout that was made to keep Mayweather busy and is not worth mentioning. Henry has not really beaten anybody of note before or after this bout.
Shamba Mitchell
Mayweather KO’d him in 4 but Kostya Tsyu had already achieved this and Hatton has already stopped Tsyu and retired him. Which means he was close to retirement when he beat Shamba. Since the Mayweather fight Shamba has been KO’d in 4 by Paul Williams.
Arturo Gatti:
Mayweather steam rolled him. Since this fight he has lost by TKO to Carlos Baldomir and TKO in 7 to Alfonso Gomes(who)
Zab Judah:
Took Mayweather the whole 12 rounds but has just been KO’d by Miguel Cotto
Carlos Baldomir:
Gained the title from over the hill previous light welter Zab Judah just lost UD to Vernon Forrest.
Oscar De La Hoya:
WAY OVER THE HILL
This fight was a joke. Delahoyas size took him so far but he gassed and is a shadow of his former self.
I think Hatton has a much better chance here than I originally thought :)
Most of these fighters went on to lose fights to weak opposition because mayweather was brutal, offensive, and unrelenting. Opponents of Mayweathers never come out unscathed. He does what Calzaghe did to Lacy in every single fight..........
Just kidding.
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This has all been discussed over and over again. The fact is that WW and JM divisions were EXTREMELY week just 2 years ago. Judah, Baldomir and DelaHoya were the top three in those divisions.
He did skip the 140 pound division but I didn't see anybody give Mosley any crap when he did the same.
I think Myawether has either planned his rise to power at just the perfect time or he was extremely lucky. Regardless, he is a great fighter and will face his toughest test since Castillo in Hatton.
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Did anyone ever think that Baldomir was a better fighter than Margarito or Cotto at the time they fought? Absolutely not. Baldo was a slow, plodding, low risk for Mayweather. No one is going to convince me that Judah, Baldomir, and DLH had 147 and 154 on lockdown at the time of Mayweather's fight with each of them.
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It's funny how before these fights it was a whole different story from most people.....and it's always followed by a ton of reasons why this will be the guy to finally beat floyd, and after you get this type of stuff, hell i think there is already a thread on here disscussing what will be said about hatton after he looses, if he does at all....
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It's funny how before these fights it was a whole different story from most people.....and it's always followed by a ton of reasons why this will be the guy to finally beat floyd, and after you get this type of stuff, hell i think there is already a thread on here disscussing what will be said about hatton after he looses, if he does at all....
Are you going to tell me Mar that ODLH, Gatti, Judah, and Bladomir had 147 and 154 all sewed up???? that they were the absolute best to beat?? Of course not because you are literate and not institutionalized somewhere that doesn't let you use computers.
I can explain why we always have all the hype that 'this is the man to beat Mayweather' stuff before every Mayweather fight. it is because most of us want Mayweather to lose. And because of this, when combined with our unprofessional way of letting bias getting in the way of sanity----we actaully posted on threads as to why Gatti (or whoever) could win.
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He did skip the 140 pound division but I didn't see anybody give Mosley any crap when he did the same.
Well ive heard that he didnt want to risk an 'L' going in with Tszyu. Cause we all know the main temptation of moving up was the Golden Boy in his prime.
Mayweather chased an old dream (in Dela Hoya) and its not sold so well, plus his original stint at Welterweight was a bit of a freudulant escapade (As Boozeboxer explains)
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Did anyone ever think that Baldomir was a better fighter than Margarito or Cotto at the time they fought? Absolutely not. Baldo was a slow, plodding, low risk for Mayweather. No one is going to convince me that Judah, Baldomir, and DLH had 147 and 154 on lockdown at the time of Mayweather's fight with each of them.
I think Mayweather needs to settle down at Welterweighte again and just have a couple more fights after Hatton, against the big boys (Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito... Hell even Clottley or Cintron).
If he beats a couple of those guys, id be happier hearing people call Mayweather a Great fighter.
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It's funny how before these fights it was a whole different story from most people.....and it's always followed by a ton of reasons why this will be the guy to finally beat floyd, and after you get this type of stuff, hell i think there is already a thread on here disscussing what will be said about hatton after he looses, if he does at all....
Are you going to tell me Mar that ODLH, Gatti, Judah, and Bladomir had 147 and 154 all sewed up???? that they were the absolute best to beat?? Of course not because you are literate and not institutionalized somewhere that doesn't let you use computers.
I can explain why we always have all the hype that 'this is the man to beat Mayweather' stuff before every Mayweather fight. it is because most of us want Mayweather to lose. And because of this, when combined with our unprofessional way of letting bias getting in the way of sanity----we actaully posted on threads as to why Gatti (or whoever) could win.
not at all and that's exactly my point. These things mentioned here are some of the same things i said before these fights, i just find it strange how after the fights everyone including some of thier own fans now choose to see it the same way.
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Originally Posted by Mar
It's funny how before these fights it was a whole different story from most people.....and it's always followed by a ton of reasons why this will be the guy to finally beat floyd, and after you get this type of stuff, hell i think there is already a thread on here disscussing what will be said about hatton after he looses, if he does at all....
Are you going to tell me Mar that ODLH, Gatti, Judah, and Bladomir had 147 and 154 all sewed up???? that they were the absolute best to beat?? Of course not because you are literate and not institutionalized somewhere that doesn't let you use computers.
I can explain why we always have all the hype that 'this is the man to beat Mayweather' stuff before every Mayweather fight. it is because most of us want Mayweather to lose. And because of this, when combined with our unprofessional way of letting bias getting in the way of sanity----we actaully posted on threads as to why Gatti (or whoever) could win.
As much as it highlights the hater in me.... I couldnt agree more ;D
Good point BB ;)
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For once after a fight it would just be nice to hear "floyd was just better tonight" instead of the usual.....he ran, he beat a washed up fighter blah blah etc.......that's all i'm saying.
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**Edited*** Due to Mar's own editing, this post is deemed totally unnecessary :)
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I'll give Mayweather the Diego Corales fight as Corales was in his prime and they were the same weight. He didn't exactly crush him it was just a bunch of flash knock downs due to Mayweathers bluring hand and foot speed but he beat him fairly easily. Mayweather also did very well against Castillo expecially in the second fight but look what Hatton did to Castillo when he tried to move up in weight.
If you look at the list above it doesnt contain any fighters that didnt go on to get beaten after Mayweather fought them. Infact most of them got beaten in better fashion by KO
If MAyweather beats Hatton then I'll give him plenty of credit but for the first time I can sense in Mayweathers interviews that he not looking past Hatton to future plans. Infact... I think he may even be a little scared