Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
I appreciate your displeasure with Kelly... But speaking for mysely I can tell you, to me it dosent really matter what he does out of the ring as long as he isint a murderer or a pedophile etc. If he performs than thats why I cheer.. This stuff happens all the time in sports and celebrity its unfortunate that it effects you since its someone you know. ;)
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
First off, your links don't work. Second, I went to the Vindicator's website and pulled up an article. Pavlik had a three-year contract with Anthony Scandy that Scandy is trying to extend to include Pavlik's fight with Taylor. Pavlik is maintaining that his May 12 fight with Miranda was his last under Scandy, however they have a contract that states if Pavlik is injured then his contract should be extended for the duration of the injury. Both sides have to agree to when the injury occurred and when he was healed from it and sign on it, but Scandy maintains Pavlik's people didn't fulfill their part. In fact, now Pavlik's people deny it ever happened even though Pavlik is quoted in another article that "I found an opening and hit him with a straight right and pain just shot up my shoulder," in referring to sparring partner, Shawn Porter, in preparation with the fight with Edison Miranda that was supposed to happen in January of 2006 on the undercard of the Pacquiao/Morales fight.
Hopefully, I summed it up okay.
This is going to have to be arbitrated. I think in the long run, Pavlik is going to have to pay something, just not the regular 13% he had been paying because it isn't clear cut. Scandy has been repaid all the expenses he took care of for Kelly, car, cell phone, stipend, etc., but a contract is a contract. Who is it who said a comprimise is where both sides walk away a little unhappy?
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
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Originally Posted by huntin_itai
On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his a** off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.
And you have to know how this reads after what you said about Pavlik already. Unless you can substantiate this you sound like you have some huge sour grapes. If Pavlik is stumbling during his ring entrance I'll buy it then.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
As long as he get's the job done in the ring.....most won't care. Boxing is a shady sport this type of thing goes on behind the scenes all the.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
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Originally Posted by huntin_itai
Kelly is showing his true colors by trying to renege on a contract he had with a pair of co-managers. I personally know them and Pavlik is being a d***head about the whole situation. I will post a link to several articles in the Youngstown Vindicator about the lawsuit he has filed against his co-managers that were there for him before he became famous and now that Kelly has stepped up into the limelight he is back stabbing the guys that were there for him when he was a nobody and pappa TopRank was not paying for everything.
I am interested in others opinions after reading the articles.
On another note Kelly has been seen still drinking heavily at the bars in and around Youngstown while Taylor is training his a** off in the Poconos. I have been Kelly's biggest supporter but after what he is doing to a friend I can not continue to back him but I wish him the best.
http://www.vindy.com/content/sports/...6724739933.php
http://www.vindy.com/content/sports/...1144051562.php
????.......okay ::**.............
Not tha facts I got ( from a better source then the paper) but if you say so........
As for him drinking I can't say I know or have heard anything about that but if by some small chance it is true then he will learn the hard way when he fights Taylor........
I think Kelly is a bit smarter then that though
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
really dont get the point of this ???
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
I take this with a pinch of salt.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I appreciate your displeasure with Kelly... But speaking for mysely I can tell you, to me it dosent really matter what he does out of the ring as long as he isint a murderer or a pedophile etc. If he performs than thats why I cheer.. This stuff happens all the time in sports and celebrity its unfortunate that it effects you since its someone you know. ;)
Totally agree, what he does outside the ring is irrelevant (even murder, it's as natural as taking a piss but we don't want to admit it O0). As far as the drinking I would take that with a grain of salt, since this is his biggest fight of his career and the drinking story makes sense.. Probably an attempt to build an image of some sort (that ignorant white people who sit around and do nothing but drink can relate to :))
Have no doubts that Pavlik's putting the work in that he needs to and it's gonna be a brutal fight.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
The real Kelly Pavlik volunteers him self for charity. The real Kelly Pavlik is a humble fighter. I don't think you are getting the whole story.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
and the drinking story makes sense.. Probably an attempt to build an image of some sort (that ignorant white people who sit around and do nothing but drink can relate to :))
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WTF is that supposed to mean.... >:mad
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
Is this the article you are talking about?
http://www.vindy.com/content/sports/...nal/pavlik.php
I have drank with Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik. They are nothing more than a bunch of pop belly drunks. There is not a night that goes by without one of these guys starting a fight at a bar or night club.
I also smoked crack with B-Hop the other day.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
Pavkik is sueing for a declaritory judgment.
Meaning that these other two dudes are probably threatening him with law suits, so he is going to the court to ask them to "declare" whether he owes them anything or not.
I dont see anything wrong with that. You dont expect him to just let these two schmucks keep him worried about his finacial future when he has a big task a head of him.
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
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Originally Posted by drgonzo
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Totally agree, what he does outside the ring is irrelevant (even murder, it's as natural as taking a piss but we don't want to admit it O0).
Uhh ... you're not that fellow who lives just down the street from me, are you?
Re: The Real Kelly Pavlik
It was a matter of time before Kelly started getting bad publicity but as someone already said , he is still a good fighter so what he does outside teh ring as long as its nuthin too serious then why would we judge him ?
Im hoping he beats Taylor and I think his punch power is being underestimated going into this fight . Taylor would have never met a guy with power like this and he felt a few of Coreys last time remember
