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Im not sure BIG H because never seen Pavlik at Supermiddleweight but he should be able to make the weight easy so i say Pavlik wins Calzaghe would break his hands on Pavlik's hard head and with Pavliks power and Calzaghe's leaky defence that smells like disaster ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I wanna sit on the fence until after JC v Kessler. Today I say Pavlick ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Fair enough but i think Kessler will beat Calzaghe have you seen some of his fights BIG H ?? man he is impressive great skills Calzaghe has never met anyone as good as Kessler and vice a versa for Kessler but i truly believe Calzaghe will break his hands in this fight and he was able to get away with it against lesser opposition but not against Kessler ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Have to admit I have only seen 3 Kessler fights and he does look good. And I agree that JC will break his hands, I am just hoping they numb up and he can continue to fight. If they do (oir if they don't break) I pick Calzaghe, otherwise Kessler. JC can't fight one handed this time .Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
what?? dont get me wrong KP has some mad power but there are major flaws in him. Lets not forget he was being dominated and nearly KO'ed himself untill he found the finish himself..
good fight but Calzaghe would dominate him as long as he is carefull..
After the beating Kessler gives him, Pavlik would beat Calzaghe with relative ease.
Calzaghe could outbox Pavlik,Taylor was causing him problems with his fast hands and so would Calzaghe.But its the same story with Joe if he hurts his hands there is no way he could keep Pavlik off him with 1 hand.It will be a hard task with both hands cause Pavlik has dynamite in his right hand.
you can never write the ghost off but i think a tip top joe calzaghe would beat pavlik but how often is he 100% so it would be a gd fight with alot of action
ill go with Mr Calzaghe
For the record - I said Pavlick "Today" - Didn't say I think he would win ;)
Calzaghe simply too fast and skilled for Pavlik, throws too many punches for the Ghost to handle and i cant possibly see him winning via KO, Calzaghe has proved his durability over an entire career.
Hopefully we can get this on, especially after JC easily outpoints Kessler ;D
Ok another question, if Calzaghe beats Kessler AND Pavlik is he p4p number 1 in the sport?
Actually a very simple reason why Pavlik CANNOT beat JC.
Its pretty clear from the Taylor fight that Pav's main and pretty much only weapon is his right hand, well thats gonna be fuckin useless against a southpaw, especially one who has such excellent footwork and technical skills as JC. pavlik is all about his jab-right combo for power, against a lefty that aint gonna work to well. Pav would have to lunge to get the right around and that leaves him open for the counter, something JC is very good at, he loves come forward fighters.
Calzaghe isnt even close to being number 1 if he beats Kessler
And Pavlik eats Joe alive if they fight
IF he beats them,he is dam sure as hell close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
I'd take JC over Pavlik at the moment but I'd like to see Kelly at 168. Remember,he struggled to make 160 so he could be stronger at 168(if thats possible). However,JC is a smart fighter. People don't realise that. He worked on a game plan v Lacy,to not let him set,use angles. I'm sure he could make a plan for Kelly too although the question is whether JC could take his punch. I don't think he'd let Pavlik set and would win a UD but I'd like to see Kelly@168 and JC v Kess.