Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....

I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.

MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.

I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.

Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.

MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.

I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.

Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.

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Poor fight yeah . Manny wasnt looking good at all and Barrera was clearly past it so it made for a bit of a letdown action wise .

Pac kept crossing himself . He looked liek a fighter in trouble but he got the job done and can put it down to a bad night and move on . Next time train properly

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.

MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.

I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.

Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.

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Poor fight yeah . Manny wasnt looking good at all and Barrera was clearly past it so it made for a bit of a letdown action wise .

Pac kept crossing himself . He looked liek a fighter in trouble but he got the job done and can put it down to a bad night and move on . Next time train properly

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CC for agreeing,telling the truth. It was a poor fight. Sorry if I caused offence in anyway before the fight bro,you still cool :D 8)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.

MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.

I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.

Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.

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Poor fight yeah . Manny wasnt looking good at all and Barrera was clearly past it so it made for a bit of a letdown action wise .

Pac kept crossing himself . He looked liek a fighter in trouble but he got the job done and can put it down to a bad night and move on . Next time train properly

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CC for agreeing,telling the truth. It was a poor fight. Sorry if I caused offence in anyway before the fight bro,you still cool :D 8)

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CC back atcha Gamo ;)

If you were a manny fan and rooting for manny then yes, Quite distressing viewing..

But for those rooting for barrera it was comfortable to watch and a calming pace for Marco's gameplan..

I wouldnt go as far to agree with too many of your statements and only manny really knows whether his pop was coming and going throughout or if it was in fact down to marco and the way in which he seemed to have discovered and awkward variation of his boxing style to keep the pace a little more in his favour..

I would rather believe it was more likely that marco that kept manny slightly in check although pac wasnt guning for a fight like we may have seen before, However ..If he had perhaps it may not have done him any favours as barrera was sharp with counters and movement, But inconsistant during every other round..

There are alot of angles to be thought of when analysing this fight..

I'll let you know in little while still haven't seen it yet.

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Originally Posted by The Magic Man

If you were a manny fan and rooting for manny then yes, Quite distressing viewing..

But for those rooting for barrera it was comfortable to watch and a calming pace for Marco's gameplan..

I wouldnt go as far to agree with too many of your statements and only manny really knows whether his pop was coming and going throughout or if it was in fact down to marco and the way in which he seemed to have discovered and awkward variation of his boxing style to keep the pace a little more in his favour..

I would rather believe it was more likely that marco that kept manny slightly in check although pac wasnt guning for a fight like we may have seen before, However ..If he had perhaps it may not have done him any favours as barrera was sharp with counters and movement, But inconsistant during every other round..

There are alot of angles to be thought of when analysing this fight..

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I think you're over complicating it.There aren't that many angles at all. Manny didn't fight at any sort of ferocius pace as we are used to,he's Ko'ed this guy before yet was gun shy and he looked off balance. He looked wild,out of sync,as if he hadn't prepared well,as if the fire was gone. I mean the fact that he never hurt MAB at any point was disappointing. MAB was just giving him simple angles and he could not handle it.

As for MAB,like I said,when your corner tells you to do more,you're doing something wrong,it just came across like he was there to survive.MAB didn't try to win the fight enough imo. Even the 12th round,when the fight could have been close for all he knew,he was just walking around,flicking a jab.

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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft

I'll let you know in little while still haven't seen it yet.

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Trust me bro,it was a poor fight. Nothing like I expected. Remember,I had SIG bets for this yet I don't feel any great sense of satisfaction!

Maybe your right,

Maybe i say Tomayto you say Tomato

I wasnt extatic with the fight but i wasnt greatly disapointed

MAB looked like he was there to survive.......

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

MAB looked like he was there to survive.......

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I disagree, His work wasnt urgent, He looked calm but he knew he had to keep a certain pace else he may get hammered,

If you have boxed then you can relate to that, Course not everyone is a barrera, But when you get hammered then you tend to get extra careful and want to do your work with the least risk.. Quite understandable..

He didnt run or stop throwing..It wasnt dead exciting but hedidnt look to have lost his will to win imo

i notice that pac abandoned his jab jab straight combo and relied solely on move head left-right then pop a fast straight. is that the new manila ice? ehehehe well it worked a little but its not as effective as his old combo.

i think its just a bad case of mab to scared to get KD/KO and pac not confident with his stamina cause of troubles with his weight. both were gun shy but mab has more to lose.

I agree El Gamo, very disappointing fight and I was pumped for a war. Oh, you can't always get what you want. Congrats to "Pacman" though, he won and that's that!! At least I know who my daddy is though, thanks to Pacstraight :'(

Ang hell yeah Gamo, Andrade is my boy!!! I was actually more excited about seeing him then MAB/PAC. He is TOUGH, but so sloppy. I don't know why Mack stayed right there inside with him, that was dumb. Probably thought he could hit him at will and k.o. him. Well, he won't do that again. Someone wants to get to the top of the 168's, they'll have to get past Andrade!!!

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Originally Posted by LEGION

I agree El Gamo, very disappointing fight and I was pumped for a war. Oh, you can't always get what you want. Congrats to "Pacman" though, he won and that's that!! At least I know who my daddy is though, thanks to Pacstraight :'(

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LMAO,hahaha,I like it! Yeah man,I was not the only one,I've seen and heard of plenty of people dissappointed by the fight. I was not expecting an all out war but I dam sure as hell was expecting more effort from both fighters. There was more action in Manny's fight with the frighteningly weight drained Morales and their 3 rounds!

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Ang hell yeah Gamo, Andrade is my boy!!! I was actually more excited about seeing him then MAB/PAC. He is TOUGH, but so sloppy. I don't know why Mack stayed right there inside with him, that was dumb. Probably thought he could hit him at will and k.o. him. Well, he won't do that again. Someone wants to get to the top of the 168's, they'll have to get past Andrade!!!

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Yeah,I love Andrade,awesome fighter to watch,rugged,tough,sloppy but so so exciting. That was the best fight of that card imo. Mack made a big mistake standing and trading,he was doing better when he just blocked and countered. I was surprised he dropped Librado though,it was a temple shot wasn't it? And dam straight,Andrade is going to give anyone at the weight a tough,he's a good test to see if they are elite or not. Want to see him fight Froch or someone like that/