do you think david haye has a good chin?

Im not too sure, mormeck was landing short right hands alll night, i predicted that they will catch up with him them rights.

in the fourth, a right hand skimmed him, and he started to wobble really badly, his legs went like jelly. if it was someone like mercer in there, they would have knocked him out brutally in that situation by the ropes (remember that ko?)

haye is blaming being too weight drained, thats why his legs went. the thing is, he came right back in mormecks face, but that was due to heart and determination, mormeck never finished him cos he seemed intimidated.

is it normal for a fighter to wobble when get hit with a grazing shot (like the judah dance) due to being drained? i dontknow.
cos in the past there have been fighters who have been really drained but they dont start wobbling like that, e.g james toney.

im just asking cos, his chin will seriously be tested against the heavyweights, just imagine him getting caught by david tua or wlad. :o :-\

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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy

Im not too sure, mormeck was landing short right hands alll night, i predicted that they will catch up with him them rights.

in the fourth, a right hand skimmed him, and he started to wobble really badly, his legs went like jelly. if it was someone like mercer in there, they would have knocked him out brutally in that situation by the ropes (remember that ko?)

haye is blaming being too weight drained, thats why his legs went. the thing is, he came right back in mormecks face, but that was due to heart and determination, mormeck never finished him cos he seemed intimidated.

is it normal for a fighter to wobble when get hit with a grazing shot (like the judah dance) due to being drained? i dontknow.
cos in the past there have been fighters who have been really drained but they dont start wobbling like that, e.g james toney.

im just asking cos, his chin will seriously be tested against the heavyweights, just imagine him getting caught by david tua or wlad. :o :-\

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I think his chin is ok i think the bigger problem is his suspect stamina.

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Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy

Im not too sure, mormeck was landing short right hands alll night, i predicted that they will catch up with him them rights.

in the fourth, a right hand skimmed him, and he started to wobble really badly, his legs went like jelly. if it was someone like mercer in there, they would have knocked him out brutally in that situation by the ropes (remember that ko?)

haye is blaming being too weight drained, thats why his legs went. the thing is, he came right back in mormecks face, but that was due to heart and determination, mormeck never finished him cos he seemed intimidated.

is it normal for a fighter to wobble when get hit with a grazing shot (like the judah dance) due to being drained? i dontknow.
cos in the past there have been fighters who have been really drained but they dont start wobbling like that, e.g james toney.

im just asking cos, his chin will seriously be tested against the heavyweights, just imagine him getting caught by david tua or wlad. :o :-\

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Well Haye needs to sort out his left hand and how he leaves it so low, because it doesnt matter how much of a dodgy chin hes got he will be sent to sleep in the heavyweights with his left that low.

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i think his chin is average

his legs went funny because he stood on the advertising hoarding which caused him to slip

but in answer to your question....i don't think his chin is very solid.

I don't think he has and now he is moving up to heavyweight he gotta learn to keep his hands up.

Might be ok at heavyweight without the weight drain.

Look how much stronger Cotto's chin looks at welter!

What seems to be the theme throughout the British fighters at the moment is their guard. The number of times I've yelled "Get your fu**ing hands up" over recent weeks whilst watching fighters is insane, Calzaghe, Froch, Haye, and I'm sure I might be yelling it at Hatton come December 8.

Even if he is only dipping his hands a little I will.

So the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Haye's chin is the issue. It's his stamina and his guard...and I think him and Booth will be able to work on those with the move to heavyweight.

I wonder if Haye's chin looks worse than it is because he's been killing himself to make cruiserweight? Bob Arum says that's why Cotto's chin looked so dodgy at 140 but is so solid now.

If he keeps fighting with his left hand down against heavyweights we're definitely going to get empirical evidence of just how good his chin is. :)

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Originally Posted by ono

Might be ok at heavyweight without the weight drain.

Look how much stronger Cotto's chin looks at welter!

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Yeah good point mate, am I right in thinking he said he has to shed TWO stone to make cruiser?

The same might apply to his stamina too. I read somewhere Haye said he was only at 65-70% strength because he had to lose twenty-odd pounds of muscle and he was skin and bone at the weigh-in.

I think his worst attribute his his defence (particularly against the ropes).
I think he has an average chin but his stamina seems fine to me. Not seen or heard any problems with it since the Thompson fight.

His condition faired much better than i thought it would against Mormeck considering he's dropping 2 stone for cruiser fights (unlike Hatton, he already seems in great condition prior to the weight loss).

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Originally Posted by ono

Might be ok at heavyweight without the weight drain.

Look how much stronger Cotto's chin looks at welter!

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It's one thing to handle Mormeck's punch. Another to handle Klitschko's.

This may sound stupid but what is a stone like 12 pounds or no i have no clue.