Does Calzaghe have the opponents to be considered a true ATG?
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
I'm a Joe fan, I'm British and proud of him and I think he has proved he is a better fighter than most gave him credit for.
His resume is not impressive enough though if I'm to be truthful.
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
Nope it isn't but neither was Barry Mcguigan's so there you go ;)
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
I'm a Joe fan, I'm British and proud of him and I think he has proved he is a better fighter than most gave him credit for.
His resume is not impressive enough though if I'm to be truthful.
Thats a good question... I'm a Joe fan but I'd have to say no
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
You can only fight whose around at the time. he's the only boxer to hold all major belts at super middle hes made 21 defences and yes some of his opponents were not the cream of the crop, but neither were some of joe loius or larry holmes or any other champ whose dominated their division. he is the model pro and an example to all other boxers. he gets the job done. he should get in at the first attempt
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
You can only fight whose around at the time. he's the only boxer to hold all major belts at super middle hes made 21 defences and yes some of his opponents were not the cream of the crop, but neither were some of joe loius or larry holmes or any other champ whose dominated their division. he is the model pro and an example to all other boxers. he gets the job done. he should get in at the first attempt
Rocky Marciano's legend is constantly being tested in this same fashion... He is always ripped for fighting lack luster op and faded champs... But what can you do? He beat everyone there was.
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I think he's only a Bernard Hopkins away from a being a top 50 ATG's
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I think he's only a Bernard Hopkins away from a being a top 50 ATG's
Agreed. 1 more big win,over Hopkins and he could be an ATG,definitely at the lower end of the list though.
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I think he's only a Bernard Hopkins away from a being a top 50 ATG's
Agreed. 1 more big win,over Hopkins and he could be an ATG,definitely at the lower end of the list though.
So a win over hopkins would do it? So what does a loss to hopkins do for his legacy?
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I think he's only a Bernard Hopkins away from a being a top 50 ATG's
Agreed. 1 more big win,over Hopkins and he could be an ATG,definitely at the lower end of the list though.
So a win over hopkins would do it? So what does a loss to hopkins do for his legacy?
Doesn't hurt it that much. He has done what Bernard has done-ruled a division,unified the titles and wiped away the competitors.Now he needs to move up and beat a top,top opponent.The 2 best names on JC resume are Lacy and Kessler,2 hungry,young,champions,both undefeated. The best 2 names on Hopkins resume are Oscar and Tito(2 smaller guys)maybe Tarver too although I never rated Tarver personally. So JC is not too far imo. And yes,I think he can beat Bernard and I REALLY hope he does.
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Beating an old guy over 40 years of age means nothing for your legacy.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
Nope it isn't but neither was Barry Mcguigan's so there you go ;)
I don't think anybody considers Barry McGuigan an All Time Great
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
Just wondering, he's first ballot HOF of course because of his record alone...but does he have the proper opponent resume to be mentioned with the all time greats?
Nope it isn't but neither was Barry Mcguigan's so there you go ;)
I don't think anybody considers Barry McGuigan an All Time Great
I actually misread the question my bad.
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Hopkins and the winner of pav taylor 2 and one more big fight if his hands and body hold up and id give him the 3 atg super middle and guarenteed top 50 all time if not top 25.
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Do you consider Holmes, Louis ATG and even Bernard a ATG i mean if not for Tito and Oscar Bernard would not be considered. See the thing will Cal is that he undefeated and has good wins over a Old Ebunks, Lacy and Kessler also undefeated not to mention a champ 10 years and 21 defences so top 50 ain't out of the question i mean what else can you do. I mean look at Rocky's best wins were over old greats or complete bums i mean all in how you look at it.
