Calzaghe - Hopkins The Facts!!
Punch statistics
Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707
Total landed: 127/232
Percentage landed: 27/33
Jabs thrown: 93/224
Jabs landed: 11/45
Percentage landed: 12/20
Power punches thrown: 375/483
Power punches landed: 116/187
Percentage landed: 31/39
And no, one good punch doesnt make up for the difference..nor does throwing a couple of clean punches every round..
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Calzaghe outworked Hopkins and won a close fight. I though Calzaghe edged it, but Hopkins landed by far the harder, cleaner punches. He just didn't land enough of them.
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CFH
Calzaghe outworked Hopkins and won a close fight. I though Calzaghe edged it, but Hopkins landed by far the harder, cleaner punches. He just didn't land enough of them.
Precisely. I think the difference was after the 3rd rounds jc put his left up more and timed hopkins movement much better...add to that the fact that granpa was tiring..
Also he started to punch more...
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Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.
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add in that one is pressing the fight, one is tieing it up, even those punch stats being completely equal, you have that it Joe's favour also..
Hopkins did land some very good punches though.. By far he had at least the 10 nicest punches of the fight.
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.
This must be where you gewt your 114,113 to hopkins card from then, TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE 4TH ROUND, YOULL SEE CALZAGHE WON IT QUITE CONVINGLY!
That then makes your score different...PLEASE LOOK AT IT AGAIN!
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
add in that one is pressing the fight, one is tieing it up, even those punch stats being completely equal, you have that it Joe's favour also..
Hopkins did land some very good punches though.. By far he had at least the 10 nicest punches of the fight.
Hopkins had the best punch of the night, the knock down.
BUT FOR HEAVENS SAKE!!! DID YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE THE HOOK THAT CAME IN AND ROCKED BHOP IN EITHER THE 10TH OR 11TH WHERE HE HAD TO CLINCH TO SURVIVE???
WAS I WATCHING A DIFFERENT FIGHT?
It sickens me this whole 'calzaghe didnt throw good punches' comments... LOOK AT ROUNDS 10 AND 11...HOPKINS WAS ROCKED!!! HOW CAN YOU SAY THEY WERENT GOOD PUNCHES THAT DIDNT DAMAGE HOPKINS?
Its like it has to be spelled out over and over again, just look at those rounds please!
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.
WTF? Is this guy living in an alternate reality or what?
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LondonBB
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
add in that one is pressing the fight, one is tieing it up, even those punch stats being completely equal, you have that it Joe's favour also..
Hopkins did land some very good punches though.. By far he had at least the 10 nicest punches of the fight.
Hopkins had the best punch of the night, the knock down.
BUT FOR HEAVENS SAKE!!! DID YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE THE HOOK THAT CAME IN AND ROCKED BHOP IN EITHER THE 10TH OR 11TH WHERE HE HAD TO CLINCH TO SURVIVE???
WAS I WATCHING A DIFFERENT FIGHT?
It sickens me this whole 'calzaghe didnt throw good punches' comments... LOOK AT ROUNDS 10 AND 11...HOPKINS WAS ROCKED!!! HOW CAN YOU SAY THEY WERENT GOOD PUNCHES THAT DIDNT DAMAGE HOPKINS?
Its like it has to be spelled out over and over again, just look at those rounds please!
no, you were not...it's just that some people choose to close their eyes when their favourite fighter gets hit...the guy gave 6 rounds to hopkins I mean 6! where and how did he get these 6 rounds I have no idea..
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compubox stats are unrealible
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Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....
Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.
Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.
:lol:
The hypocrisy ;D
Those punch stats aint so great when they don't go in your favour.. right Icey? ;D
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miles
Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....
Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.
Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.
Which is pretty much as I saw it too, and at the end of the day, you can have what stats you like brought up,
But they mean nothing, this does tho,
FACT: JOE WON, AND HE WAS RIGHTLY DECLARED THE WINNER AFTER THE SCORE CARDS HAD BEEN HANDED IN AND COUNTED UP,
AND THAT WAS DONE IN FLOPKINS BACKYARD TOO ....
Get over it, or live with it, but learn to accept it because it's happened, it's gone and now a part of Boxing history..
;D:britain::britain::britain::britain:;D
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Those punch stats don't tell the whole story the first 4 rounds Hopkins won IMO and maybe Calzaghe did land few more punches in some rounds but Hopkins still landed more effective blows of the rounds he won, just say for instance in the rounds Calzaghe won he landed 20 more punches than Hopkins in those rounds, but in the rounds he lost he landed a few more punches than Hopkins, but Hopkins landed the much more effective blows ?? punch stats can be misleading and they are in this case as well.
Ice is right, anybody that knows boxing knows punch stats don't mean much and are misleading. Plus anybody that goes by it to base who won a fight is lame.
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bambamdaddio
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Originally Posted by
miles
Giving 6 rounds to Hopkins is warped....
Ultimately it was closer than I thought it would be. Ive just finished rewatching it on video. No doubts that Joe did more than enough. It was his superior workrate that did seperate them.
Joe just didnt do very much in the first 3 rounds. Therafter it was Joe all the way.
Which is pretty much as I saw it too, and at the end of the day, you can have what stats you like brought up,
But they mean nothing, this does tho,
FACT: JOE WON, AND HE WAS RIGHTLY DECLARED THE WINNER AFTER THE SCORE CARDS HAD BEEN HANDED IN AND COUNTED UP,
AND THAT WAS DONE IN FLOPKINS BACKYARD TOO ....
Get over it, or live with it, but learn to accept it because it's happened, it's gone and now a part of Boxing history..
;D:britain::britain::britain::britain:;D
Tried to rep you but was told to "spread the rep". I will catch up later.
I did want Joe to stop Hopkins so we wouldnt have had any room for the whingers and excuse makers. But it wasnt to be. As it is Calzaghe continues to be unbeaten and marches on. As that final bell sounded part of me wished that we still had 15 rounders because Joe looked fresh as a daisy and could have gone on indefinately.
Anyway, he won by 4 points by my reckoning. Not even that close. Now bring on Jones Jr. Personally im not really into the Jones Jr fight because I think he is way over the hill but if thats what Joe wants then who can begrudge him a payday at 36?