What the fuck is up with Obama's church?!?

I've been to church all my life and have never ONCE heard anything about politics and I've seen and heard two preachers from Barrack Obama's church and all they seem to talk about is politics and how the man is holding them down.


What's really funny is that this new guy is white.....hahahaha this totally has to be an SNL skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8



I mean people expect crazy rantings from Southern Baptist Preachers....I'm not a Southern Baptist and so I've never heard that stuff.

Advice for Obama...get this guy as your preacher/spiritual advisor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKfxuXWXDw

...no one else finds this shocking, amusing, or confusing?!?!?!



I find it HIGH-larious that a guy as white as Michael Pflegler (or whatever his name is) is acting so black and preaching to a black congregation about Black Liberation....it could be a part of Soul Man it's so funny

.....we just might be seeing a tape put out soon that supposedly has Michelle Obama speaking at the very same church that caused all this trouble to begin with and she supposedly uses the word "whitey".......if that's the case then this is what I forsee happening to the Obama campaign


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiAT9xvTVKI

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Originally Posted by Lyle

.....we just might be seeing a tape put out soon that supposedly has Michelle Obama speaking at the very same church that caused all this trouble to begin with and she supposedly uses the word "whitey".......if that's the case then this is what I forsee happening to the Obama campaign


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiAT9xvTVKI

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OK I bit, you don't honestly believe this do you?

I said "supposedly"......but in this age where everything is taped or recorded then everyone who loves Obama had better fucking pray such a tape doesn't exist, but it's being reported by the news media and has made people VERY nervous.

If it is only a Republican tactic which it very well MAY BE....then they are picking on a huge weakness of Obama's....Michelle hasn't come across as a happy person or a person who has achieved succes through the opportunities provided to her by America.

But I ask you....if it does exist....what then? Basically McCain gets to answer any debate question with "At least I don't hate America or white people"

It doesn't exist it was created by some right wing nutcase on some shitty political blog. It's a myth there is no "If" because it's simply not true even other republican bloggers are discounting it as pure myth. Because it is.

...You read Republican blogs???





LAME ;D


Hey if it's out there then fine if not then fine....but it's easy to paint Michelle Obama as an "America Hater" and as Kissinger said "Perception is reality"

I've actually kind of got addicted to blogs a bit. Not really political blogs because...well I just don't like political bloggers for the most part no matter what they are. But I have come accross the blog in question a few times.

Sports blogs are great though. I wish all my favorite teams had a good blog site. The Warriors' blog is shit, complete shit. GoldenStateofMind is what it's called. Promising name but terrible blog. The Sharks have a great blog though and it's basically where I go for all my Sharks news.

It surprised me that he was Catholic. I've seen white protestant preachers give sermons like that but not Catholics.

It shocked me because

#1. I've been to church my entire life and have NEVER been lectured to about politics in church.

#2 I've never heard about race in church

#3 I've never heard anyone berate the United States in church


It always shocks me, whether it's some no drinkin', no dancin', crazy ass Southern Baptist or whether it's some wacko faux muslim from "The Nation"...but it's really crazy it was a Black Liberation preacher, I had never heard of such a thing but I guess it gives an explination to why Sharpton and Jackson get so much face time....they seem more reasonable when compared to Rev. Wright or Pfleger.


I do think Father Pfleger is a very funny character (sad but funny)...I didn't know that wiggers were big into religion...I guess in the future we'll see Father Eminem or Kid Rock or Vanilla Ice....hahaha

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

The "black" churches in the South have always been involved in politics, ministers have always been involved in getting out the vote and in a lot of cases steering the vote.

Maybe I'm just a cynic about organized religion but that's kind of a power church if you know what I mean, I suspect if anything Obama used it to network, etc. I know how you're going to respond to that so there's really no reason, yes it would have been smart for him to leave it a couple of years ago.

I think if anything this has shown how much race still plays a part in politics. Hillary's wins in Kentucky and West Virginia had nearly as much to do with race as Obama's wins in Mississippi and Alabama.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

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Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

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Because the thoughts and ideas coming out of Obama's church are not changes I or anyone else believe in. Anyone believing in what Wright was spewing in his surmons is no different than anyone following any of the crazy white preachers out there.....and I wouldn't vote for any of them either

I can understand and appreciate what the Civil Rights movement did with churches but we're past that era.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

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That and people might have a REAL issue with what was going on in Obama's church.

If W was sitting in a church with a preacher talking crap about black people ONCE (much less 20 years) then he'd be in a ton of fucking trouble.