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Reading the Boxing News today I have seen an article talking about who is the biggest challenger to Wladimir Klitschkos heavyweight throne. Anyway of all the people that it mentioned there was only one person who stuck out in my mind and that was David Haye so I was wondering how people think that the Hayemaker would fair against the Top heavyweight around today.
i went for Wlad as Haye is unproven at heavy , i may chang emy mind if Haye knocks out some good heavies
Wlad .....now and forever!
He's too big, too strong, and too powerful....Haye is all hat and no cattle
I said Haye basically because I hink it would be a case of who lands big first on who questionable chin and I think that with both having very good boxing skills but Haye being the faster I belive it would be him that got through first. Then again you have to make an arguement for Wlads reach and height advantage, but i'll stick with Haye.
I think Wlad's 1-2 spells doom for everyone in the division right now....and either you have to catch Wlad doing something wrong (ie vs Sanders he was in a crouch and hunched over therefore putting him in firing range of Sanders) OR you have to weather the storm and get Wlad tired.....seeing how Haye has neither the chin nor the stamina to "weather the storm" then he's going to have to go for broke and try to catch Wlad slipping and that is becoming harder and harder to do......and so I say Wlad would dominate Haye now and a couple years from now.
haye would probably lose to chagaev, he would lose to sultan, and he might even lose to valuev
he has no business even challenging klitschko
Wlad smashes him
Im not voting yet its a tough one give Haye 2-3 fights against top 10 heavyweights and see how he does.
The key to Haye is his speed he hits as hard as the best and if he can keep his speed he could devistate the division.
Remember a lot of the guys at heavy are fat Cruserweights.
Yep, Haye is unproven as of now. But you never know in the heavyweight division, ....Hell any division now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think it comes down to whoever lands there right hand first.
Im glad someone has thought about this logically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
2 of the greatest heavyweights of all time would have been in the Cruiserweight division today in Marciano and Joe Louis. So I dont read too much into cruiserweights not being big enough. Also Haye was a very big Cruiser who has already fought at heavy (I think he weighed in at 217 which is similar weight to Tyson, Ali, Frazier and other great heavys at their best) and destroyed a mediocre heavy in Bonin in the 1st round.
I'm not saying that he would beat Klitschko but what I am saying is that people on here in my opinion are under rating Haye.
Wlad has been constantly improving since his glass chin days (Sanders, Brewster), guys. He's determined to continue improving and becoming one of the greatest HWs of this generation. Save for his ridiculous pawing at Sultan for 12 rounds, his last few showings have been pretty damn good.
I agree with this but the question marks remain over the quality of his opponents for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Well.. it's not really his fault that there's not much available in terms of quality opponents in the HW division nowadays. I do like that Wlad hasn't ducked anyone. And I also like the fact that Wlad himself realizes he's a work in progress, and hasn't let the ease of his latest victories get to his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI agree with this but the question marks remain over the quality of his opponents for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Wlad needs Haye to cement any kind of legacy he has no comp they are either too big or not skilled.
Wlad better pray that Haye or Solis dont lose as they hold the key for him historically.
Ive cooled on Povetkin he is very skelled but fights face first and has little power.