If Roy doesn't use more footwork, he might as well not show up
I just watched his fight with Trinidad again, and if he tries to fight Calzaghe, expecting to fight at that pace he is dead. Calzaghe will use intelligent pressure like he did against Hopkins, but unlike Bernard, Roy doesn't move anymore, and his defensive style of the ropes isn't cagey, he just covers up, and Calzaghe doesn't get tired, so unless he uses more footwork than I've seen from him in over 6 years, or he decides to actually put some leverage behind his punches like he used to, then he might as well not even go to New York becuase he will make Joe look a lot better than he is, and he will make himself look like a fool.
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This is why I've been saying all along I think Roy's chances of winning are very slim.
He just backs up to the ropes and covers up. Can you think of a worse guy to do that against than Calzaghe? Joe will just unload those fast combos all night while Roy covers up against the ropes. He might not even land clearly all that much but he'll certainly win the rounds unless Roy either finds a way to hurt him or turns back the clock and discovers the legs to box and move for 12 rounds. I obviously don't see that happening.
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Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
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Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
Just like Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy... :)
A few years ago this would have been a hell of a fight but not in 2008 and you're well aware of this.
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Anything can happen in this fight Jones still has fast Hands
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Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
Jones by KO or UD12 is what i want ;);D
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Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
Although I would say its that elementery, I would have to agree you got the right Idea.. I give Jones the edge in Hanspeed as well as Sharp accurate punching not fast openhanded blows like Calzaghe uses more often than not... Joe got raked quite a few times by Hopkins right hands, if Roy landed those same punches Calzaghe would have been counting light bulbs
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Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
Totally agree. Joe should have demanded the fight be at smw because he just looked awful at LH against a 43 year old man. Also Jones as we know has struggled for a long time to make weights below LH and struggled with that for a few fights after his stint at heavy weight but seems very comfortable back there now. ROY WILL WIN THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!
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I just watched his fight with Trinidad again, and if he tries to fight Calzaghe, expecting to fight at that pace he is dead. Calzaghe will use intelligent pressure like he did against Hopkins, but unlike Bernard, Roy doesn't move anymore, and his defensive style of the ropes isn't cagey, he just covers up, and Calzaghe doesn't get tired, so unless he uses more footwork than I've seen from him in over 6 years, or he decides to actually put some leverage behind his punches like he used to, then he might as well not even go to New York becuase he will make Joe look a lot better than he is, and he will make himself look like a fool.
So what your trying to say is he didn't use good footwork against Woods and Ruiz???????
Some of his best ever footwork was in these fights and both were in the last 6 years.
Also I'm expecting a different fighting style to the one he used against Tito he knew he could just stand there with him and I felt that he could have landed much harder punches at any time if he needed to and have knocked him out. Instead he went in there got twelve rounds under his belt and went looking for Calzaghe. Believe me Ive been following roys career for over 15 years now and he's been planning this for a long time. ROY WILL WIN THIS FIGHT!!!!!!! If he doesnt I will change my name on here to "Roy Jones is a bum" i'm that confident.
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Anything can happen in this fight Jones still has fast Hands
I agree as well as been at the top of the mountain and then knocked off by tarver and then kicked while he was down by Johnson and Jones has picked himself up and restablished his confidence and evolved his style to compensate for his diminished reflexes... Again Jones has been humbled and battled thru adversity, that alone gives Roy a big advantage over Joe who hasnt experienced that, and at his age its gonna be a hard lesson to learn on the job and Roy will get him in the deep waters and win a war of attriction to a 12 round win....
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Violent Demise
Jones is going to back into the ropes like always. And just cover up. And Calzaghe will just keep punching him. Jones will than realize this muthafukka ain't really punching me. Hes just slapping me. And it doesn't hurt. Jones will proceed to open up and knock Calzaghe out. Pretty simple fight
Totally agree. Joe should have demanded the fight be at smw because he just looked awful at LH against a 43 year old man. Also Jones as we know has struggled for a long time to make weights below LH and struggled with that for a few fights after his stint at heavy weight but seems very comfortable back there now. ROY WILL WIN THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!
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I just watched his fight with Trinidad again, and if he tries to fight Calzaghe, expecting to fight at that pace he is dead. Calzaghe will use intelligent pressure like he did against Hopkins, but unlike Bernard, Roy doesn't move anymore, and his defensive style of the ropes isn't cagey, he just covers up, and Calzaghe doesn't get tired, so unless he uses more footwork than I've seen from him in over 6 years, or he decides to actually put some leverage behind his punches like he used to, then he might as well not even go to New York becuase he will make Joe look a lot better than he is, and he will make himself look like a fool.
So what your trying to say is he didn't use good footwork against Woods and Ruiz???????
Some of his best ever footwork was in these fights and both were in the last 6 years.
Also I'm expecting a different fighting style to the one he used against Tito he knew he could just stand there with him and I felt that he could have landed much harder punches at any time if he needed to and have knocked him out. Instead he went in there got twelve rounds under his belt and went looking for Calzaghe. Believe me Ive been following roys career for over 15 years now and he's been planning this for a long time. ROY WILL WIN THIS FIGHT!!!!!!! If he doesnt I will change my name on here to "Roy Jones is a bum" i'm that confident.
Agreed 10000000%
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Jones to me at least hasn't been showing that kind of power lately. He still hits hard enough to get people's attention but it didn't seem to me in any of the Tarver fights, the Johnson, the Ajamu fight, or Hanshaw or Tito that he was really punching that hard. He's still fast but he doesn't seem like he's got the explosiveness he used too.
Hopkins at 175 seemed to be hitting fairly hard with his right hand, look at the Tarver fight, he stunned Tarver with it more than a few times.
Anything's possible but Calzaghe's got a good enough chin, I doubt he gets hurt that badly.
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I reakon this one could be closer than most people think. Jones will be a lot more attacking against jc bcos he knows he lacks 1 punch ko power, and we all know jones is at his best when in offensive mode. If jones can muster up 60% of he used to be he will win, and dont forget joe c isnt a spring chicken himself, will be atleast 37 coming into the fight.
Its a shame they didnt fight in there primes!!
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Jones to me at least hasn't been showing that kind of power lately. He still hits hard enough to get people's attention but it didn't seem to me in any of the Tarver fights, the Johnson, the Ajamu fight, or Hanshaw or Tito that he was really punching that hard. He's still fast but he doesn't seem like he's got the explosiveness he used too.
Hopkins at 175 seemed to be hitting fairly hard with his right hand, look at the Tarver fight, he stunned Tarver with it more than a few times.
Anything's possible but Calzaghe's got a good enough chin, I doubt he gets hurt that badly.
Like I posted before... I guarantee Roy will knock him down and have him on queer street... Roy will punch thru the open handed blows of Joe and will land the more meaningful shots enough to discourage Joe from his usual workrate.
Hopkins throws like 5 punches around and could have easily gotten the nod in that fight, Roy will land more and will do more damage
Joe has a great chin but Roy digs to the body with the best of them and will rake Joes ribs as well
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OumaFan
Jones to me at least hasn't been showing that kind of power lately. He still hits hard enough to get people's attention but it didn't seem to me in any of the Tarver fights, the Johnson, the Ajamu fight, or Hanshaw or Tito that he was really punching that hard. He's still fast but he doesn't seem like he's got the explosiveness he used too.
Hopkins at 175 seemed to be hitting fairly hard with his right hand, look at the Tarver fight, he stunned Tarver with it more than a few times.
Anything's possible but Calzaghe's got a good enough chin, I doubt he gets hurt that badly.
Like I posted before... I guarantee Roy will knock him down and have him on queer street... Roy will punch thru the open handed blows of Joe and will land the more meaningful shots enough to discourage Joe from his usual workrate.
Hopkins throws like 5 punches around and could have easily gotten the nod in that fight, Roy will land more and will do more damage
Joe has a great chin but Roy digs to the body with the best of them and will rake Joes ribs as well
Precisely!!!
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OumaFan
Jones to me at least hasn't been showing that kind of power lately. He still hits hard enough to get people's attention but it didn't seem to me in any of the Tarver fights, the Johnson, the Ajamu fight, or Hanshaw or Tito that he was really punching that hard. He's still fast but he doesn't seem like he's got the explosiveness he used too.
Hopkins at 175 seemed to be hitting fairly hard with his right hand, look at the Tarver fight, he stunned Tarver with it more than a few times.
Anything's possible but Calzaghe's got a good enough chin, I doubt he gets hurt that badly.
Like I posted before... I guarantee Roy will knock him down and have him on queer street... Roy will punch thru the open handed blows of Joe and will land the more meaningful shots enough to discourage Joe from his usual workrate.
Hopkins throws like 5 punches around and could have easily gotten the nod in that fight, Roy will land more and will do more damage
Joe has a great chin but Roy digs to the body with the best of them and will rake Joes ribs as well
I dont even think jc's got that good of a chin either. In the kessler fight he was clearly hurt and if kess had alittle more to him he could of finshed that fight, just depends on jones current power. I just hope jones wins bcos all jc nuts will be saying jc is the altimes greatest etc and roy's legacy would be hurt aswell which he doesnt deserve.
