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Which of the following do you think should be enacted by all boxing commissions and organizations.
1) Instant Replays.
Simply stating that in close or controversial rulings, instant replays may be used to review and change if necessary the outcome of the fight.
2) Ranking Champions by all Organizations
A Champion of for example the WBC would still be ranked by the WBO, IBF and WBA
3) Limit organizations to ONE champ.
Eliminate Super, Interim and Emeritus titles
Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3
Do away with number three all together! and yes to 1 and 2
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Originally Posted by plopeater
Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
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Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by plopeater
Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
The Ring does not collect sanctioning fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by plopeater
Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
Many feel the ring's cred has been comprimized from the purchasing by ODLH, so now what?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by plopeater
Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
No to replays wont work.
Could give a guy hurt valuble seconds to recover also referees could use this to favour the home town fighter.
I agee with one champion but again wont work the orgs would never agree.
I should have been more clear, the replays would be used only post fight on rulings such as cuts and low blows for point deductions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
The Ring sells mag's and the more they sell, the more they make. Just like all the rest of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThe Ring does not collect sanctioning fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
A rule was already set where they had one minute in between rounds to review the tape, kind of like they do in football, a minute might not always be enough but if they move fast enough, they might be able to solve some issues. I was judging the Leonard/Hagler fight and I gave round 4 to Leonard but after watching a replay, I had to change my score and call the round even because SRL's bolo punch was not right on the money, it was a low blow and it was that bolo punch that made the difference in me giving the round to SRL but after seeing it was low, how could I give that round to Ray? I am not saying the judges should have access to instant replay but I think the corner should be able to get a quick review call the foul in question and if it is a foul, let the judges see it and then they can turn in their score cards ;D That is fair. Give each corner 3 review chances? Two maybe per fight? I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
I say one minute of instant replay is some cases is better than none at all.
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In the case of the Thompson fight last week, it did not take 20 seconds to view that it was a head butt that caused the cut. Simple as that jack.
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Originally Posted by killersheepI should have been more clear, the replays would be used only post fight on rulings such as cuts and low blows for point deductions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
The thing about boxing is two men enter they slug it out then at the end there is a definative result one way or the other. If fans go home not knowing if a result will be over turned would just not work.
Imagine paying for a ppv then having to wait to see if the result stands and again i think one mans slip is another mans kd.
There should be no reason for a result to take more than 10 minutes of review, more likely 5 minutes, by the time the fight is over the incident in question will be queued and immediately reviewed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI should have been more clear, the replays would be used only post fight on rulings such as cuts and low blows for point deductions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
The thing about boxing is two men enter they slug it out then at the end there is a definative result one way or the other. If fans go home not knowing if a result will be over turned would just not work.
Imagine paying for a ppv then having to wait to see if the result stands and again i think one mans slip is another mans kd.
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Originally Posted by GhostThe Ring sells mag's and the more they sell, the more they make. Just like all the rest of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThe Ring does not collect sanctioning fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost
Yes the ring is a business, but they do not profit by having multiple titles like Interim, Super, Emeritus, which is exactly what this topic is about. Making money from selling magazines will happen regardless if they have a vacant champ or a champ in place. The alphabets only get paid if someone pays sanctioning fees (compounded by the different sub-titles)
So the WBA for example could be receiving fees from their Regular, Super and Interim titlists at the same time, so it is in their best interest to have MORE titles. That is the difference here. You have to fight to earn a Ring top 10 spot, you have to PAY to earn an alphabet top 10 spot.
Agree with all three but the replay shouldn't overturn the cards in less a head butt is discovered that wasn't previously scored as. Like in the fight on friday night where Anthony Thompson got screwed cause a butt from Arvin in the 3rd opened up a nasty cut which was never ruled as a butt. Thompson was easlily winning the fight before the Doctors called it a tko 6 in favor of Ismail Arvin. The men in charge to oversee the bout even looked at the replay and admitingly seen the head butt, but still had to make the wrong ruling.