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Why exactly is anybody expecting Roy to win this weekend?
Because he fought a competitive decision with an also shot and under sized Felix Trinidad? His last three fights, he's looked god awful in two of them and then decisioned Tito who hadn't fought in three years.
At his best Roy relied on speed, power, reflexes and stamina. Only the power is left.
Against Calzaghe he'll be a sitting duck.
There are a lot of delusional people on this forum.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but if roy is so shot that just put's another win on joe's belt that means nothing, something his career is already being questioned about. I hope either guy gets nothing but positive credit should they win on sat.
he still has major speed lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Greig
what made him so great in his prime was him being bale to slip and a punch and conter, he never needed to block one.
That is one of the things to me that got him beat by tarver and johnson, he still thought he could slip everythign and counter, be he was getting hit unlike before.
He doesn't moce as much now, but his def is a lot better than before he was slipping. I expect calzaghe to win, he is the younger of the two oldies, but Roy hasn't lost yet.
I thought RJJR had been shot by a bullet or something. Thank God, that is not the case, I will be rooting for Calzlappy ;D I expect Old Joe to win big ;)
Seems like a bold statement without intelligently presenting factsQuote:
Originally Posted by Greig
here try this;)
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...y-loosely.html
He is just as fast as Joe and I reckon stronger too. If RJJ decides to go out all guns blazing he would hurt Joe. That's his best chance of a win too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
I agree with your general theme, but besides that your dead wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Greig
1) Roy Jones Jr dominated Trinidad even in the early rounds, Trinidad deserved maybe a round or two, the rest of them the only work he got done was below the belt or on Roy's elbows.
2) How did he look bad against Henshaw or Ajamu? He certainly wasn't prime Roy, but he still won almost every round, most of them pretty dominantly even if he was against the ropes he was making them miss almost every shot, and landed almost everything he throw.
3) The only things Roy has left are his speed(which is obvious by his handspeed), and some semblence of his reflexes. His power is almost none existant because he doesn't follow throw on his punches anymore.
All in ALl I have been saying this all along, Roy vs Joe is the biggest mismatch, bigger then Hopkins-Pavlik as many found out, and bigger than Oscar-Pacquaio, but Roy still has a fighter's chance. If he throws punches, and keeps on throwing punches he will win, thats how it has always been for him, when Roy throws people, not even Glen Johnson, could walk through his combinations.
I don't think Roy just needs to throw punches for the fence, but he can't allow Joe to back him up, and keep him on the ropes every round. Roy needs this fight to take place in the middle of the ring.
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Originally Posted by Greig
Roy looked good vs Tito and still has hie speed. Its his engine that will cause him trouble.
Jones isnt what he was but he is far from shot.
I want RJJ to win. Not a big fan of Joe.
I think there are different forms of being shot. A fighter's legs can be shot. A fighter's hand speed can be shot.
For example, Erik Morales is shot in multiple ways. Legs are gone, reflexes are gone, speed is gone, etc. Holyfield too.
I think Roy's legs are shot. He still has a decent amount of his old hand speed though. Is that enough to beat Joe? I don't think so.
I think Calzage will win but only a fool would take a all time graet like jones so lightly if jones reproduces just 10 seconds of his former self that is enough to turn a fight and upset someone even as good as calzage.
Personally i dont think it will happen but i hope for joes sake he is not stupid enough to take this man lightly look at round 1 against B hop who he took to lightly(jones beat b hop with one hand)
We have a winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Well Put...Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I say the winner faces James Toney @ cruiser.
Lets not forget Evander Holyfield was shot when he fought Bobby Czyz then he fought Mike Tyson and we know what happened to him and what Evander went on to do after that fight.
Good PointQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno