Who is the greatest ever Featherweight?

This is a topic I have been thinking about for quite a while now and it's got me wondering... Just who is the greatest ever Featherweight in boxing history?

A lot of the so called experts seem to go for Willie Pep but there is not that much of him on film to really convince me. I mean I know he was a defensive master but I think I'd have loved to see more of him so I can make a clearer decision.

Another one who seems to get a lot of accolades is Sandy Saddler who beat Pep a few time I think! But again not enough film or at least I don't seem to be able to find much.

No for me to honestly say they are the greatest feathers I have ever seen I would have had to see quite a bit of them which leads me to my vote Salvador Sanchez. I've seen enough of him to say I think he would pretty much beat any other feather I have seen since.

Problem is Featherweight is a division that has been crammed with class over the years with names such as Azumah Nelson, Vincente Saldivar, Wilfredo Gomez, Henry Armstrong (another who I haven't seen an awful lot of), Eusebio Pedroza, Erik Morales and Barrera amongst others of more recent fighters.

I know that the problem with my choice is basically he didn't have the longevity due to his tragic early death but there was still enough fights for him to prove his worth to me.

Anyway I'd just like to know who you guys think is the greatest Feather in history? Sorry if I missed anyones favourite in my list but I didn't have all day!

Sanchez

Sandy Sadler

Marco Antonio Barrera

You are all wrong. It was Hank Armstrong.
Then Pep
then Pacquiao

Top 10 in no order from fighters i've seen enough of.


Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Eusebio Pedroza
Alexis Arguello
Azumah Nelson
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vincente Saldivar = Recently been able to get some footage of him
Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera

Guys like Luisito Espinosa, Tom Johnson, deserve a mention aswell. Infact you could place those 2 fighters on the list, because they made many title defenses. But mine was just a quick list not very thought out, i'll make a better one later.

Azumah Nelson

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Top 10 in no order from fighters i've seen enough of.


Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Eusebio Pedroza
Alexis Arguello
Azumah Nelson
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vincente Saldivar = Recently been able to get some footage of him
Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera

Guys like Luisito Espinosa, Tom Johnson, deserve a mention aswell. Infact you could place those 2 fighters on the list, because they made many title defenses. But mine was just a quick list not very thought out, i'll make a better one later.

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I've watched Luisito's fights and I can put him up there.:cool:

it would be Pac, Arguello,Nelson,Sanchez,Lopez, Barrera,Hamed, Morales for me.

I can't believe you mention Espinosa but not Pac.:-\

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Top 10 in no order from fighters i've seen enough of.


Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Eusebio Pedroza
Alexis Arguello
Azumah Nelson
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vincente Saldivar = Recently been able to get some footage of him
Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera

Guys like Luisito Espinosa, Tom Johnson, deserve a mention aswell. Infact you could place those 2 fighters on the list, because they made many title defenses. But mine was just a quick list not very thought out, i'll make a better one later.

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I've watched Luisito's fights and I can put him up there.:cool:

it would be Pac, Arguello,Nelson,Sanchez,Lopez, Barrera,Hamed, Morales for me.

I can't believe you mention Espinosa but not Pac.:-\

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whats hard to believe? just because you put pac on a pedestal doesnt mean he is the greatest feather weight.

I would have Prince NAseem on their not pacman, pacman has never stayed at 1 weight that long.

Overall its Pep for me... but from those I've seen a lot of then its Sanchez!

Based on what I've seen, what I've read/ researched my top 5 would be:

Pep
Armstrong
Sandler
Miller
Kid Chocolate

I'll start of by saying that Henry, Kid Chocolate, Alexis, Erik, MAB and Pac all did better at different divisions there for I rate them in those divisions, accordingly.

As usual on my lists you will not see any names of fighters I've not seen with my own eyes. You will see fighters I've seen a handful of fights on and know well...

With that in mind here's how I see it.

1. "Chava" Sanchez
2. JMM
3. Azumah
4. Saldivar
5. Pedroza
6. "Springfield Rifle" Moore
7. "Sugar" Ramos
8. Naz
9. "Little Red" Lopez
10. J. Famechon

Honors: "Ñato" Marcel, Winstone, Luisito, "Mantecas" Medina, Baby Arizmendi & Jorge Paez.

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I'll start of by saying that Henry, Kid Chocolate, Alexis, Erik, MAB and Pac all did better at different divisions there for I rate them in those divisions, accordingly.

As usual on my lists you will not see any names of fighters I've not seen with my own eyes. You will see fighters I've seen a handful of fights on and know well...

With that in mind here's how I see it.

1. "Chava" Sanchez
2. JMM
3. Azumah
4. Saldivar
5. Pedroza
6. "Springfield Rifle" Moore
7. "Sugar" Ramos
8. Naz
9. "Little Red" Lopez
10. J. Famechon

Honors: "Ñato" Marcel, Winstone, Luisito, "Mantecas" Medina, Baby Arizmendi & Jorge Paez.

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Come on Johnny Famechon!

Sanchez
Marquez
Morales

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Originally Posted by ICB

Top 10 in no order from fighters i've seen enough of.


Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Eusebio Pedroza
Alexis Arguello
Azumah Nelson
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vincente Saldivar = Recently been able to get some footage of him
Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera

Guys like Luisito Espinosa, Tom Johnson, deserve a mention aswell. Infact you could place those 2 fighters on the list, because they made many title defenses. But mine was just a quick list not very thought out, i'll make a better one later.

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I've watched Luisito's fights and I can put him up there.:cool:

it would be Pac, Arguello,Nelson,Sanchez,Lopez, Barrera,Hamed, Morales for me.

I can't believe you mention Espinosa but not Pac.:-\

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Manny Pacquiao to my knowledge only had like 2 or 3 fights at Featherweight, he was better at other divisions. I don't think he deserves a spot in the top 10 Featherweights of all time based on a few fights.

As for Roberto's comment i only listed the fighters i have seen enough of like you. I listed fighters like Erik Morales, MAB, Alexis Arguello, because i couldn't think of anyone else really.

I know they were better at other weightclasses but fighters like Sugar Ramos, and ETC. I haven't seen or i haven't seen enough of, so i just added MAB, Erik Morales, Alexis Arguello to fill the top 10 in. Because there the fighters i know enough of to list.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'll start of by saying that Henry, Kid Chocolate, Alexis, Erik, MAB and Pac all did better at different divisions there for I rate them in those divisions, accordingly.

As usual on my lists you will not see any names of fighters I've not seen with my own eyes. You will see fighters I've seen a handful of fights on and know well...

With that in mind here's how I see it.

1. "Chava" Sanchez
2. JMM
3. Azumah
4. Saldivar
5. Pedroza
6. "Springfield Rifle" Moore
7. "Sugar" Ramos
8. Naz
9. "Little Red" Lopez
10. J. Famechon

Honors: "Ñato" Marcel, Winstone, Luisito, "Mantecas" Medina, Baby Arizmendi & Jorge Paez.

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Yeah but Mick the title of the thread says greatest ever! Not who you seen!

So for me its Pep!

Can I ask why you don't rate those others at this weight?

Armstrong started & fought at feather for 8 years! Most of his wins came at this weight. He was even named fighter of the year in '37 whilst still at feather. He beat guys like Sarron, Wright, Arizmendi. Armstrongs record at feather is just as good if not better than at welter!

Miller just look at his numbers & who he fought & beat at feather!

Chocolate was probably a better Jr Lightweight but he was an awesome feather too & at his best he would have hung with any featherweight in history!