So many so called PBF supporters have short memories
Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.
If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.
Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.
Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."
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I always thought the LW or WW version of Shane could have beaten PBF no doubt...The 154 version of Mosley that Winky schooled would not have...I think people also forget the pop Mosley has in his punches...He has a 75% KO ration in over 50 bouts....He is certainly the stronger fighter...
I agree if PBF laid on the ropes Shane would have murdered him
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All boxing fans seem to have short term memories. Not too long ago people were saying Mosley was washed up. Even in his win against Mayorga, people were saying he looked like he was at the end of his rope.
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Mayweather:Mosley is a good one, and I agree that Shane has a decent pop at beating him.
Mosley performed well against Cotto but just didnt quite do enough. I think Mayorga excelled himself against Mosley rather than it being a case of Mosley being all that bad.
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I guess people will agree to disagree. Mayweather has faced bigger guys who hit harder like Oscar who haven't broken his shell. Its not easy to break somebodies ribs or especially an arm while wearing a glove. Shane isn't THAT hard of a puncher, and his biggest problem is that he is very robotic and Cotto was able to hit him at will because of his poor movement and in some cases timing. Mayweather has better timing and speed than Cotto. Mosley wasn't able to beat up Estrada very badly, wasn't able to beat up COllazo, he won those fights quite easily especially when Collazo stopped throwing punches, but the fact was that Mosley still was landing hardly anything effective against Collazo who has nowhere near the defensive capabilities that Mayweather does. Also two of Mayweather's better punches the jab and the cross are punches that land very easily on Shane. Mayweather keeps this fight on the outside, and potshots with his cross, and uses his jab to keep Mosley off balance.
I think it would be competitive for sure, Mosley is very fast, does have good skills, but not enough to beat Mayweather IMO. Certainly doesn't have the power or arsenal to land enough punches to stop Mayweather.
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I think it would be competitive for sure, Mosley is very fast, does have good skills, but not enough to beat Mayweather IMO. Certainly doesn't have the power or arsenal to land enough punches to stop Mayweather.
PBF wouldn't stand anywhere close to still and let SSM bang him. He would do what he has done his whole career, study Mosely, come up with a solid plan of action and execute it to a tee. SSM doesn't have the footwork that could trap PBF or set up his shots like Margarito who was pretty much right there all night. I'd love to see it, but I don't think that match up could generate the $$$ PBF would demand.
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I guess people will agree to disagree. Mayweather has faced bigger guys who hit harder like Oscar who haven't broken his shell. Its not easy to break somebodies ribs or especially an arm while wearing a glove. Shane isn't THAT hard of a puncher, and his biggest problem is that he is very robotic and Cotto was able to hit him at will because of his poor movement and in some cases timing. Mayweather has better timing and speed than Cotto. Mosley wasn't able to beat up Estrada very badly, wasn't able to beat up COllazo, he won those fights quite easily especially when Collazo stopped throwing punches, but the fact was that Mosley still was landing hardly anything effective against Collazo who has nowhere near the defensive capabilities that Mayweather does. Also two of Mayweather's better punches the jab and the cross are punches that land very easily on Shane. Mayweather keeps this fight on the outside, and potshots with his cross, and uses his jab to keep Mosley off balance.
I think it would be competitive for sure, Mosley is very fast, does have good skills, but not enough to beat Mayweather IMO. Certainly doesn't have the power or arsenal to land enough punches to stop Mayweather.
shane has fought to the level of his comp..and when he feels he's the great underdog he will turn it up...all those point u made can easily be turned against floyd..floyd hasn't fought a prime a+ fighter since he was at 135...
hatton is good but's not a+ and mosely's competition easily trumps pbf. So while i won't be rooting for anything more than a good fight. I think shane wins...and shane beating margo forces pbf to stayed retired..because if comes out and fights anybody but shane, its clear that he doesn't want any part of him....sure he can come out and fight manny if he beats hatton, (which i think he wont) but manny is too small and doesnt have the skill to beat floyd...so im pulling for hatton to force floyd to fight shane...any one else is just stupid..unless he fights cotto, but if cotto fight margo again and wins they will sign a trilogy....so floyd has no choice but to face shane..
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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.
If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.
Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.
Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."
What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?
I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.
Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..
Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.
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I really think people are losing it or just trying to find more ways to make PBF look not as good as he is. The man is retired and if he doesn't come out to fight Shane he is scared??? Thats good stuff. I suppose Anti-PBF supporters don't remember PBF calling out Shane when he was at his most fearful...during his lightweight reign. Anyway, Shane got "outboxed" by Cotto. Floyd boxes unmatched. He could make Sugar look sour if he decided to just win rounds. Shane would have to get rough and tumble with PBF. He would have to make the fight quite messy. I think Shane would be nicely competitive but when Shane fights great pure boxers he doesn't exactly run away with it. Remember Winky and Forrest. Shane did great against Margarito but he is so one dimensional that you would be a fool, or a PBF hater at all cost, to parallel that greatness to a fight with PBF. Don't let one fight ruin your boxing sense. Shane is great but lets come back to Earth here. Competitive fight, maybe. But who really is going to back up their wishful hoping with a substantial wager? We all know the odds are not likely Shane would win...even if you don't want to admit it.
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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.
If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.
Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.
Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."
What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?
I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.
Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..
Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.
The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.
And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.
If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.
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Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.
If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.
Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.
Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."
What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?
I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.
Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..
Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.
The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.
And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135.
he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.
If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.
wrong again. Floyd was the first person to KO hatton who beat Kosta who had good punching power. and you say floyd doesnt have power I dont get it. He doesnt have that one punch ko power but he has enough power to ko some fighters.
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What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?
I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.
Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..
Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.
The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.
And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135.
he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.
If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.
wrong again. Floyd was the first person to KO hatton who beat Kosta who had good punching power. and you say floyd doesnt have power I dont get it. He doesnt have that one punch ko power but he has enough power to ko some fighters.
Hatton is smaller than floyd, and the ring post did the extra damage for him. and you probably didn't even see nor do you seem to anything about KT. Because he had great punching power but was on his way out of the sport in fact that was his last fight. and had been in wars and like 35 or 36.
I've been watching PBF since he was an amateur, when he was 106lbs. His entire pro career. He is ducking shane. There's no manly justification in fighting oscar over shane, fighting judah over shane, fighting baldomir over shane. Judah ran from shane. And if floyd stays retired so did he. In fact I bet that right now he along with Ellerbe is coming up with a post fight excuse as to why he lost to Shane.
"I wasn't into the fight, my mind wasn't into the sport anymore i just did this for the fans. PBF is a true champion and i fight everybody, but I'm retiring again if i was still into the sport nobody would beat be"
Dude I already owned you in SRL ducking pryor...you might want to do some more research before jumping head first up pbf's ass.
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Why cant he stay retired because he's made more then enough money to sit on a beach for the rest of his life,and there are easier ways to make money then getting hit in the face?
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floyd needs the money...he owes the feds six mill...he had over five mill in jewelry stolen from his house...he'll fight again.
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floyd needs the money...he owes the feds six mill...he had over five mill in jewelry stolen from his house...he'll fight again.
No he doesnt,it was just a thing to accrue interest on the tax money,he made more on the interest then he could spend in a lifetime.
And the fact that he had 5 mill in jewelry(all insured heavily Im sure) says alot about his financial state.
He isnt Tyson taken to the cleaners by an ex-wife,promoters,and advisers. About the only thing he has to worry about is getting too fat.
