Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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03-30-2009, 07:56 PM
Taeth

Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

Booooooo

What happened to Cotto or Clottey or Mosley or Collazo?

this really dissapoints me, either take a step up or rematch Collazo.
03-30-2009, 08:18 PM
Chris24-7

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

Yep it's a done deal, it would have been better for someone bigger but will still be a decent matchup
03-30-2009, 08:52 PM
Kel

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

I hope Urango wins.
03-30-2009, 09:04 PM
Mar

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.
03-30-2009, 09:32 PM
skel1983

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by Mar

I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.

I mean when will Berto be ready??? He just fought a solid contender and looked pretty average, Collazo imo is the sort of opponent you fight just before your big fight in your career hes a top 10 fighter who comes ready, Urango??? Im sorry but this is bullshit, Urango is a limited 140 lb fighter Berto is the WBC Champ ffs, he neeeds to be ready now if not he needs to stop pretending hes a world champion.
03-30-2009, 09:49 PM
Taeth

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
03-30-2009, 10:51 PM
skel1983

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
03-30-2009, 11:07 PM
Kel

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

Hatton fought Urango:p
03-30-2009, 11:39 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by Mar

I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.

Good posting...good points....I agree with most of it 100%...

Berto did fall into the title a bit too early....A rematch with Collazo will not prove much....IMO he beats Collazo next time around with out the amount of difficulity he had 1st time....Berto is still in the growing stages of his career...His power is natural...His boxing ability is getting better...A little more on defense and a bit on stamina would be nice....

But he needs diversity in opponents right now....He needs to get used to being in there with all styles......He is a poor mans Fernando Vargas...A bit too much too soon but the mistakes made with Fernando can be avoided if they don't throw him in with the top of the heap just yet....EG-Clotty, Cotto, Mosley etc....There are champions out there defending against worse then Collazo and Urango so no reason to be that rough on him for opponent choice
03-31-2009, 12:27 AM
fan johnny

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!
03-31-2009, 01:48 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

it's better than fighting some dude called Mickey Rodriguez :-\
03-31-2009, 04:03 AM
Taeth

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

I don't think that at all, He beat Forbes easier than Oscar did, he beat Collazo easier than Hatton did. He has all the natural ability in the world, and the right attitude, I just think he needs to keep his defense tight. As for his stamina, I don't see any problems, IMO he is one of the best conditioned guys in the sport, he is still throwing hella fast at the end of the bout, and his reflexes stay sharp.
03-31-2009, 05:32 AM
Dark Lord Al

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Booooooo

What happened to Cotto or Clottey or Mosley or Collazo?

this really dissapoints me, either take a step up or rematch Collazo.

I personally think Urango wins inside 10
03-31-2009, 06:28 AM
Galaxy

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

I may be in the minority here but I think this is a pretty good match-up! It has the potential to be a great fight (like Collazo/ Berto was), if Berto is impressive here then he can move on to much bigger fights. IMO Berto needs to build his name a little more then when potential fights with the Cotto's or Mosley's materialize they are huge events!
03-31-2009, 06:51 AM
skel1983

Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by Taeth

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

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