Fighters From Europe Are really overrated
No offense to anyone here, but since this is a message board, I have to call it the way I see it. And after reading quite a few posts and threads here, Euro fighters get way overhyped by the media and by their fanboys.
A few on the list:
Rickey Hatton, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem, Mighty Mike, Henry Cooper, Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Dariusz Michalczewski, Max Schmeling, Frank Bruno, etc.
A prime example would be everyone on this board was going on and on about how Hatton and some in the media was going to knock out Floyd then later Pacman in a few rounds. And that Floyd and Pacman were garbage fighters who cherry pick their fights and fought at home. But I guess fighting 90% of your fights against bums and in England or other places in Europe isn't right? :rolleyes:
And then when these Euro fighters beat elite fighters that are shot or past their primes like Calzaghe against Hopkins, JOnes Jr. as if its a celebration. And Nigel Benn revered in England ducked a prime Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins and would only want to fight them in Wembley. lol
Now I know some people wants to root for one of their own, but come on and be realistic. Sorry to say this but most fighters from Europe are really overrated. Hatton, Prince Naseem, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc. That Hatton and Pacman fight was plain garbage, Pacman and Floyd fought a club fighter that didnt' belong in the ring with them.
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Welcome aboard....but i have to disagree. There are plenty of good fighters from europe, ghana, the u.s. all over the place. Where the best are from is another argument that is a waste of time but doesn't make any of them automatically over-rated. Better to make this claim on an individual basis instead of blasting a whole country. As hated as he is i remember seeing "the prince" wearing quite a few belts over the years, if he was overrated then the fighters out there now and in the past who never got any of them should be first on the list.
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generalbulldog
No offense to anyone here, but since this is a message board, I have to call it the way I see it. And after reading quite a few posts and threads here, Euro fighters get way overhyped by the media and by their fanboys.
A few on the list:
Rickey Hatton, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem, Mighty Mike, Henry Cooper, Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Dariusz Michalczewski, Max Schmeling, Frank Bruno, etc.
A prime example would be everyone on this board was going on and on about how Hatton and some in the media was going to knock out Floyd then later Pacman in a few rounds. And that Floyd and Pacman were garbage fighters who cherry pick their fights and fought at home. But I guess fighting 90% of your fights against bums and in England or other places in Europe isn't right? :rolleyes:
And then when these Euro fighters beat elite fighters that are shot or past their primes like Calzaghe against Hopkins, JOnes Jr. as if its a celebration. And Nigel Benn revered in England ducked a prime Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins and would only want to fight them in Wembley. lol
Now I know some people wants to root for one of their own, but come on and be realistic. Sorry to say this but most fighters from Europe are really overrated. Hatton, Prince Naseem, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc. That Hatton and Pacman fight was plain garbage, Pacman and Floyd fought a club fighter that didnt' belong in the ring with them.
Have you met VD yet ? ;)
Every country overrates their fighters to some degree, it's human nature, it aint exclusive to Europe ;)
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Great first post.
These Euro fans, especially the Brits, just don't get it. You have to let them have their fun though homie.
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I'm a fight fan and have pretty good knowledge on the sport and probably might learn more at this forum, but I look at things objectively or try to.
And now there is all this hoopla and hype about Mighty Mike Arnaoutis. Some folks on here talking about that he's going to knock out Mayweather or Pacman if they meet up. Does he even belong in the same sentence with those 2? Yeah Mighty Mike will knock those 2 out maybe 8 years from now when Floyd and Manny are shot fighters and are still fighting because they need to pay their taxes.
Maybe the last all time geat European fighter was Bob Fitzsimmons when the Marquess of Queensbury Rules started to be implemented in boxing. I think you have to go back that far for a great European fighter. :-\
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
No offense to anyone here, but since this is a message board, I have to call it the way I see it. And after reading quite a few posts and threads here, Euro fighters get way overhyped by the media and by their fanboys.
A few on the list:
Rickey Hatton, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem, Mighty Mike, Henry Cooper, Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Dariusz Michalczewski, Max Schmeling, Frank Bruno, etc.
A prime example would be everyone on this board was going on and on about how Hatton and some in the media was going to knock out Floyd then later Pacman in a few rounds. And that Floyd and Pacman were garbage fighters who cherry pick their fights and fought at home. But I guess fighting 90% of your fights against bums and in England or other places in Europe isn't right? :rolleyes:
And then when these Euro fighters beat elite fighters that are shot or past their primes like Calzaghe against Hopkins, JOnes Jr. as if its a celebration. And Nigel Benn revered in England ducked a prime Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins and would only want to fight them in Wembley. lol
Now I know some people wants to root for one of their own, but come on and be realistic. Sorry to say this but most fighters from Europe are really overrated. Hatton, Prince Naseem, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc. That Hatton and Pacman fight was plain garbage, Pacman and Floyd fought a club fighter that didnt' belong in the ring with them.
This is ridiculous. Next you'll be claiming that Sven Ottke was overrated.
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
No offense to anyone here, but since this is a message board, I have to call it the way I see it. And after reading quite a few posts and threads here, Euro fighters get way overhyped by the media and by their fanboys.
A few on the list:
Rickey Hatton, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem, Mighty Mike, Henry Cooper, Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Dariusz Michalczewski, Max Schmeling, Frank Bruno, etc.
A prime example would be everyone on this board was going on and on about how Hatton and some in the media was going to knock out Floyd then later Pacman in a few rounds. And that Floyd and Pacman were garbage fighters who cherry pick their fights and fought at home. But I guess fighting 90% of your fights against bums and in England or other places in Europe isn't right? :rolleyes:
And then when these Euro fighters beat elite fighters that are shot or past their primes like Calzaghe against Hopkins, JOnes Jr. as if its a celebration. And Nigel Benn revered in England ducked a prime Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins and would only want to fight them in Wembley. lol
Now I know some people wants to root for one of their own, but come on and be realistic. Sorry to say this but most fighters from Europe are really overrated. Hatton, Prince Naseem, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc. That Hatton and Pacman fight was plain garbage, Pacman and Floyd fought a club fighter that didnt' belong in the ring with them.
Currently,25,european-worldchamions-that,s-not-overrated-that,s-domanation.
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25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.
How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?
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I disagree as well, euro fighters are not overrated.
Hatton was a good fighter but his style shortened his career. He never ducked anyone and beat a great champ in emphatic fashion in Kostya.
JoeCal beat Lacy when he was hyped and Hopkins who is not shot. The Jones win doesnt really count cause Jones is obviously past his prime but is still above average fighter.
RJJ and Hopkins didnt fight any and all comers either.
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25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.
How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?
How the fuck is Hopkins a shot fighter? Didn't he school the so called best middleweight in the world after Joe beat him?
Sorry thats the stupidest throw away thread I think I've ever read. Like the US didn't overhype Lacy before Calzaghe schooled him. Like Pavlik wasn't hyped to fuck before Hopkins schooled him. Same goes for Taylor, who's a good fighter but has showed major limitations over the 12 round distance.
You have got to be the first fan I've met who thought Nigel Benn was overrated.
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generalbulldog
25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.
How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?
That,s-just-the-wbc,wba;ibf,wbo,-my,friend.
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intresting no one is biting yet... guess your gonna have to up you game mr bull the posters here aint your run of the mill smacktalk board breed your used to.
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intresting no one is biting yet... guess your gonna have to up you game mr bull the posters here aint your run of the mill smacktalk board breed your used to.
I'm biting. I think he's a fucking idiot.
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intresting no one is biting yet... guess your gonna have to up you game mr bull the posters here aint your run of the mill smacktalk board breed your used to.
I'm biting. I think he's a fucking idiot.
doubt he'll last long mate too transparent with the wind ups ;)
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