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I don't.
I have no problem with somebody giving him the fight.
But when the fight was his he turned off the gas in 10-12.
Dude's just got an issue, he threw the Baldomir fight away, he could have done more against Margarito, he made the Guttierez fight tougher than it should have been, etc..
Technically he's a hell of a fighter. Just don't understand his mindset.
Kind of, in a way. But imo, Cotto deserve the win.
Alright. Pacquiao-Cotto. Bring it!!!!
I will never be a Miguel Cotto fan, its not his fault he dosent score the fight but gimme a gotdam break.
Yea he fought on despite a cut but a trillion other fighters have. Cotto loss and got his ass beat end of
Unfortunately for him after another brutal fight he is probably going to be shot going forward
FLOYD WOULD MURDER COTTO!!!!!
Clottey won the 10th.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
And look at it this way as much as you complain that Clottey didn't turn it up and he robbed himself realize that even if he'd won the 11th and the 12th he was sitting on a draw
if Clottey had won the last 2 rounds
It would have been a draw. It would have been even on one, Clottey on the other, Cotto on the third.
So Regardless of what happened by the end of the 10th a round which Clottey won Cotto already had a draw in the bag and yes for THAT reason I feel sorry for Clottey. Because he wasn't gonna win regardless.
Pacquiao vs Cotto is ON!
But in the end SPEED KILLS! Pacquiao will win!
IMO Cotto pulled out the win by winning the last 2 rnds, one thing that should really sum this fight up, Cotto had a horrible gash over his brow from the 3rd on and still made it a close fight although not being able to see out the right eye for the vast majority of the fightQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
You guys are copying and pasting your posts too much ;D
Majesty I responded to your post in that other thread.
Clottey is better than I thought he was, very good fighter, but the mental problems have never been more obvious.
Edit-the 10th is debatable, but that's not even really my point.
I like Cotto.Class guy.But he looked rough.That cut seems like it will be a future factor.Clottey,Margarito both just too much size and has taken toll.Likewise and I hate to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think Manny beats him :o:peeker:.But Im on the 6th 7th Corona so whooo knows
No, I don't feel bad for him. He had Cotto wounded from the 3rd and should have taken advantage of it. Instead of trying to finish strong he wasn't throwing and instead complained about borderline low blows and hits to the back of the head after he turned his back.
He seems like one of those fighters who never does quite enough and then blames everyone for it.
The cards were screwy, but Cotto did enough anyway.
I responded to your post too.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I also said that according to Clottey winning the 10th round in order to salvage a draw would mean that by the end of the 9th round a time before Clottey started 'giving the fight away' Clottey was already so behind on the scorecards he wasn't winning without a knockout, And thats bullshit
Hell no I don't feel bad for him, he lost. He lost by a round or two. He blew he had a chance to close it in the "Championship rounds" but he didn't. He threw a couple of punches when Cotto couldn't see and Cotto did enough to win those rounds. Clottey only has himself to blame. He won all of 7-9 when he was throwing punches. He stopped so he lost plain and simple.
he'd have lost the fight anyway. He needed the 10th, 11th, and 12th for a DRAW. That means by the end of the 9th where Clottey was dominating he still needed a knockout to win. Can you blame Clottey for that? So the "championship rounds" didn't even matter unless he knocked out Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by "The L.A. Earthquake"
I second what majesty said, doesn't really matter what he did in the 11th and 12th he wasn't getting the win so feel bad in that way for him. Cotto should have lost but not a terrible decision really except that it was a terrible decision in the way that it was scored it seems. I mean seems like there is always one judge that needs their eyes checked, 116-111 so only gave the rounds to clottey which he completely dominated. Also cotto seems like a dirty fighter to me say what you want but zab was gettin hit with low blows, and tackled clottey, hit behind the head, a low blow, only so many accidentals before you go "hmmm maybe he just makes em look acidental". Whatever though would have liked to see clottey win since I tend to prefer the underdogs.
I agree. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MajestyI responded to your post too.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I also said that according to Clottey winning the 10th round in order to salvage a draw would mean that by the end of the 9th round a time before Clottey started 'giving the fight away' Clottey was already so behind on the scorecards he wasn't winning without a knockout, And thats bullshit
Cotto seemed to be there for the taking starting in round (7 I think?) the round after Cotto dominated. Clottey just couldnt keep the pressure on and than close the show. Obviously (or maybe not) there is a reason Clottey didnt dominate Cotto in the last few rounds. Cotto can punch and hit Clottey to the body....Great fight, I had Cotto winning 114-113. I would definitley watch a rematch which wont happen.
Clottey has no one but himself to blame, you need to finish strong and he didnt even with the advantage from the cut....
On a side note Larry Merchant should be a one man show. He is better at commentating and Interviewing than Max could ever be. I think the reason Max has a sore throat is his interview with cotto went longer than expected :splurt: